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    Trucks too - - - interesting NZ trial across several industry uses

    Electric truck swaps battery faster than it takes to fill a tank
    Sep 14 2022


    Mainfreight's newest truck runs on electricity - and rather than waiting a long time to charge up, the truck swaps an empty battery for a fully charged alternative. Within six minutes, an e-truck can go from empty to full, thanks to battery-swapping technology.

    Unlike personal cars that spend most of their lives idle, freight-carrying trucks need to be on the road and earning their keep as much as possible. So while electricity is a lower-carbon and cheaper fuel, intercity truckers don’t have time to wait for their vehicles to power up.

    Enter the battery-swapping E700, imported from China by Auckland firm Etrucks. Five are currently on our roads putting the tech through its paces.

    Supply company Mainfreight is operating an e-truck between Auckland and Hamilton, with the battery swap taking place at each end of the run.

    At 40 tonnes, the truck and cargo has a range of about 130km on a full battery, said Etrucks director Ross Linton.

    Fonterra will operate one on the milk runs around Morrinsville. Concretemaker Firth, scrap metal dealer Phoenix Metal Recycling and tunnelling firm Ghella Abergeldie JV have also secured a battery-swapping truck.

    As well as providing a quick top up, the swapping system also means the batteries on the truck can be smaller, Linton said. A lighter truck can carry more freight.

    The six-minute swap is actually shorter than it would take to fill a truck with diesel, Linton said.

    “But you have to do it more often. So it’s still going to take longer to swap batteries out for the same range,” he added. “We’re still slower than diesel, but not by much.”
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    ^ Nice find that ... I've never seen one before.

    Wonder how much the Battery pack costs and what the payback period is ... cost of diesel saved vs Battery pack costs

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    its a toss up in the uk on lorries, whether they'll go EV or as the UK has abundant access to wind power, using the electricity to extract hydrogen from water and power commercial vehicles.

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    Trial nearly over, twelve months should give an indication of viability for urban use.

    NZ, November 2021: The all-electric Fuso eCanters on the streets of Auckland city on a one-year triel, being used by trial participants: Mainfreight, Bidfood, Toll Global Express, Owens Transport and Vector OnGas.

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    All new clean sheet 2024 Ford Mustang. Manual transmission available. No electric options.


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    The presenter is annoying as fuck, but it's an interesting vehicle.

    From the viewpoint of a Family Driver/Courier driver/Tradesman


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    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    Following form the Truck discussion ...


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    ^ I’d run from that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^ I’d run from that!

    I can relate. It will be a while until hazardous goods can be on the road without driver.

    I do like the idea by Tesla. Their truck is intended to have a follow me capacity. First of 3 trucks has a driver, the second and third would just follow close. No driver for that and it is very fuel efficient.

    BTW I about Nikola. They so far had one truck rolling on the street. Claiming to the present investors it drives by batterie. In reality it just rolled down an inclination, driven by gravity, no engine at all. The then CEO is charged with investor fraud.
    "don't attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence"

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    I thought this was a good graphic to explain the difference between the different types of electric vehicles.

    Which car brands are going all electric and when?-cc_mvsa0329-cc-infographic-types-electric-vehicles

    Race to zero emissions: who’s the cleanest of them all? | Climate Council

    Battery electric vehicles (BEV) are the only ‘true’ 100% electric vehicles.
    Other EV types – including Plug-In Hybrid (PHEV) and Hybrid (HEV) vehicles – still rely, in part on petrol and diesel.

    The HEV was a car like the early Toyota Prius

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    All new clean sheet 2024 Ford Mustang. Manual transmission available. No electric options.

    If it's an EV, what's with the long engine hood in the front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    If it's an EV, what's with the long engine hood in the front?
    Its not an EV. I posted in the wrong car thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Its not an EV. I posted in the wrong car thread
    Tis the story of your life.

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    Electric icecream



    31 October 2022 –To fulfil its mission to protect the planet, Wall’s Thailand announced that it is the first brand to shift to using 100% electric ice cream trucks in Thailand, celebrating its success in reducing carbon emissions by 76% when compared with using fossil fuels.

    “Though we have shifted to EV trucks for our deliveries, Wall’s guarantees the same quality and taste of Wall’s ice cream. The electricity runs the truck’s engines, is used in the temperature control system of the ice cream freezers and also serves as the backup temperature control system to prevent the ice cream from melting. The freezer maintains the temperature between -20 to -22 C to minimise any ice particles, keeping the ice cream’s great taste and smooth texture until it is delivered to consumers”

    In Q1 2023, Wall’s plans to continuously reduce carbon emissions by adding higher delivery volumes to the two EV trucks, doubling the amount of ice cream from 15 tons per truck to 28 tons each. In Q2 2023, 100% of Wall’s primary transportation will utilise an EV truck

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    I think I mentioned before that I have a PHEV.

    One of my better buys to be honest. A massive bonus is that charge points are becoming more popular in places like hotels, malls, offices and condos, which means that finding a parking spot is a piece of cake nowadays.

    A couple of examples concerning the parking.

    Had dinner last week down by the Chao Phraya river and the hotel had dedicated free to use charging points for my make of car. Normally, this hotel is pretty busy and a pain to park on weekends.

    If you ever visit the Glass House in Pattaya, you can park in the condo just before it. The car park was made for Matchbox cars and is very tight. Luckily they have charging points just as you enter, so you can dump the motor there with no hassles.

    Basically, this is becoming the norm and saves flaffing about looking for a spot to park.
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    Black diamonds? I shit 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Battery electric vehicles (BEV) are the only ‘true’ 100% electric vehicles.
    I drove one a few times in the late 70s/early 80s.

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    ^ Milkman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogon View Post
    ^ Milkman?


    No, but it was a works vehicle, not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I posted in the wrong car thread
    Did this one die of covid as well?

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    Neta V

    New car arrived for office staff at Ms P's work (she doesn't drive, gets driven - royalty!) an Electric Neta V


    It'll get good use as they contract across Chanthaburi, Trat and Rayong provinces, but most kms will be to the city 10km from the office to and fro for government offices they deal with. Easier parking than the Isuzu pickup.

    They pre-sold 3000 of these since September and understand the waiting list now extends to April. Currently 25 dealers in Thailand.

    The Neta V right-hand drive version has a length, width and height of 4,070 mm, 1,690 mm, 1,540 mm, respectively, and a wheelbase of 2,420 mm. The model is powered by a single motor with a maximum power of 70 kW and a maximum torque of 150 Nm and has an NEDC range of 384 km.

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    I like this guy, famous because of his phone reviews, but some sensible thoughts on issues with electric cars.

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    The charging experience is just as important as the car experience. And it's lagging way behind


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    Thailand’s interprovincial bus operator ready to go electric
    TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 2023

    Transport Co's board of directors agreed on Tuesday to procure 75 electric buses for 12 routes across Thailand.

    The procurement will be divided into two contracts:

    • 21 buses with at least 36 seats each worth a total of 228.26 million baht.
    These buses will be used on seven routes, namely Bangkok-Khlong Lan, Bangkok-Kamphaeng Phet, Bangkok-Sak Lek-Phitsanulok, Bangkok-Phitsanulok, Bangkok-Buri Ram, Bangkok (Ekkamai)-Laem Ngop and Bangkok (Chatuchak)-Trat.

    • 54 electric buses with at least 27 seats each worth a total of 368.73 million baht.
    These buses will be used on five routes, namely Mo Chit-Saraburi, Rangsit-Burapha University, Rangsit-Laem Chabang, Rangsit-Bowin Industrial Estate and Rangsit-Map Ta Phut-Rayong.

    Transport Co has set up committees to create procurement details, outline the scope and set a median price,” Sanyalak said.

    Once this is done, the company will start seeking bidders and expects to have chosen winning bids by July. The aim is to take delivery of the buses by February next year, he added.

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