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    I love riding in Thailand. Its fun

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    Not sure of the details but couple of decades ago at some new fangled spaghetti-type junction in Scandinavia, when they were discussing signs and furniture it was suggested to mark out the lanes but otherwise leave it completely void, embracing as your wife put it the 'take care of yourself' option. Last I heard it was a raging success, year on year rarely a single prang. Here it's a free for all, no big deal end up dead and you could come back as a hiso.

    Risking a dig at the binding liberal doctrine of all folks being equal, and 3-15 years, one could be forgiven for wondering if there may be differences in common sense and basic values between Scandis and Thai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I love riding in Thailand. Its fun
    Me too. No issues or concerns.


    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    for wondering if there may be differences in common sense and basic values between Scandis and Thai.
    Well I think we all know that many Thais lack basic common sense and many are extremely uneducated. That combo is not a good one, especially driving.

    But I do agree with Bowie in that a big deterrent with anybody is take their money. The amount of revenue the US govt makes off basic car violations is staggering. A basic speeding ticket in California will cost you $350 then there is a additional fine for every mile an hour over the speed limit you were caught. Most clip $400. If you start taking a month of salary from these folks they will wake up. Problem is the infrastructure here is not in place to make fining motorists effective. Many drive rural areas here never having had a license. Driving in Rural Thailand, while relaxed and easy going that is where I have witnessed most of the road accidents. Most are cars into a ditch in the middle nowhere which always make me shake my head and wonder how that happened.

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    Up at the village, 2 kids (11-12) disappeared with bike, found dead in a ditch, next day fury from above brings out the local cops in force with road blocks. Seems those kids weren't wearing helmets and turf boss decided that's why they died not because they were immature uneducated underage inexperienced and short on parental guidance, but his job is to potentially save a life or two so he issued orders to stop anyone without a helmet which means everyone. I'm cool with that, first time ever a cop smiled and apologised for stopping me before waving me on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Not sure of the details but couple of decades ago at some new fangled spaghetti-type junction in Scandinavia, when they were discussing signs and furniture it was suggested to mark out the lanes but otherwise leave it completely void, embracing as your wife put it the 'take care of yourself' option. Last I heard it was a raging success, year on year rarely a single prang. Here it's a free for all, no big deal end up dead and you could come back as a hiso.

    Risking a dig at the binding liberal doctrine of all folks being equal, and 3-15 years, one could be forgiven for wondering if there may be differences in common sense and basic values between Scandis and Thai.
    Years ago, I read about the same kind of thing, but I think this one was in America....a whole town without traffic signals. People used hand signals to negotiate right of way and all went well.

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    Another Day - let's throw another log on the fire...


    http://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1132...t-of-the-year/

    Thailand road carnage: Death toll tops 12,000 since start of the year

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    Daily News reported that 12,304 people have been reported dead at the scene of accidents in Thailand since the start of 2019.

    They caution that this is only those that die at the scene - the reality is that death from road accidents is a lot more when all figures are collected.

    Most experts agree that the figure is around 24,000 to 26,000 a year, notes Thaivisa.

    On Monday 62 died bringing the total for November to 144.

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    Thai caption: Road death reduction campaign - 62 dead at scene on 4th November

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    Daily News are running a campaign to raise awareness of the dangers on Thai roads. They report the death toll daily along with accident reports.

    This time they chose to warn people about the perils of changing lanes.

    They said that a motorcyclist was killed outside a chicken rice shop on Petchkasem Road (outbound) in Muang district of Ranong in Thailand's south.

    The lane changing motorcyclist, hit by a pick-up driver who could not brake in time, was propelled into the back of another pick-up.

    Source: Daily News

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    Kinda related:



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    ^The driving through a red light 300THB fine is particularly farkin risible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart
    The driving through a red light 300THB fine is particularly farkin risible
    Yeah especially since I was initially charged 1,500THB for it (later negotiated down to 500).

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    Oh yeah Ant, everyone of those stated fines is a "Ball Park" and can be negotiated. Most can be halved right out the gate..

    I LOVE THIS COUNTRY.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Oh yeah Ant, everyone of those stated fines is a "Ball Park" and can be negotiated. Most can be halved right out the gate..

    I LOVE THIS COUNTRY.....
    Yes. Low level corruption is good. Im serious. Irreverence to the state is good.

    My eyes opened when i first went to Thailand and seen people going about and not giving a fuck about lame little rules

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Up at the village, 2 kids (11-12) disappeared with bike, found dead in a ditch, next day fury from above brings out the local cops in force with road blocks. Seems those kids weren't wearing helmets and turf boss decided that's why they died not because they were immature uneducated underage inexperienced and short on parental guidance, but his job is to potentially save a life or two so he issued orders to stop anyone without a helmet which means everyone. I'm cool with that, first time ever a cop smiled and apologised for stopping me before waving me on.
    He had to stop you before noticing you were wearing a helmet? One has to wonder, what you were covering?

    Motorbikes playing chicken with cars is a one sided affair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Yeah especially since I was initially charged 1,500THB for it (later negotiated down to 500).
    In my early years here, I once inadvertently drove straight through a police road-block checkpoint.. I might share that story sometime. Or maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    He had to stop you before noticing you were wearing a helmet? One has to wonder, what you were covering?

    Motorbikes playing chicken with cars is a one sided affair.
    Tried that a couple of times, wearing a helmet at the village, they look at you sideways.

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    And that's what matters, obviously.


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    hi squirrel, slow today, two hours plus?

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    The problem is the police are under paid and poorly equipped to do their job, a few years ago it was under 10,000 baht a month for a new officer and they had to buy some of their own personal work equipment
    In Phuket its easier to set up a road block and fine unlicensed tourists (95%) and get a percentage of the fines than worry about all the dickhead drivers who regularly drive like idiots , and its not only Thais who do this

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    Announcement at daughter's high school today, five senior students injured/in hospital after a minivan crash, they were returning home (Chanthaburi) from a trip to a Bangkok uni with view to applying to study there next year



    If there's anything positive at all in this, understand the driver was the only fatality. He drove into the back of an 18-wheeler.

    I dread her going on any school travel; they're going to Bangkok 26Dec a one-day trip, 8-10hrs total in the bus, not minivan but still likely to be a tired driver
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    The road safety policy for the New Year gets off to a bad start

    Road accident drill causes real death
    16 DEC 2019

    NAKHON RATCHASIMA: A road accident response drill went terribly wrong, leading to the death of a woman motorcyclist, in Phimai district on Sunday.

    The road drill followed a visit by Deputy Interior Minister Niphon Bunyamanee, who laid down his road safety policy for the New Year holiday at the Phimai district office on Sunday.

    In the afternoon local district and health officials, and rescue workers organised a road accident response exercise on the highway at Ban Tam Yae intersection in tambon Krabueang Yai.

    Traffic police closed one side of Phimai-Talad Khae Road, and opposing flows of vehicles were directed to use the other side.

    Tragically, this led to a collision between a motorcycle and a loaded sugarcane truck pulling a trailer.

    The woman motorcyclist was run over and crushed to death, and her male companion seriously injured.

    There was no comment available from the organisers of the road safety drill.

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