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    handbrake on 2017 hilux not releasing

    I have a 2019 hilux which is still under warranty, about 6 weeks ago when i tried to back out of my driveway my handbrake would not release
    I called Toyota Pearl in Phuket and asked them to send a mechanic out as i could not move the truck, after waiting a few hours i needed to take a leak, while i was doing it the mechanic turned up and fixed the problem in about 30 seconds by changing the transmission form D to R several times, i took the truck to Pearl toyota and after inspecting the brakes they informed me nothing was wrong with them and the problem was caused by salt, moisture or dust in the brakes

    The mechanic asked my wife if we had been to the beach and she told him i had, he said a 500 baht call out fee was required as the warranty did not cover the work because of the salt (WTF) i parked in the parking area at Nai' Harn beah not in the sea
    On the weekend just gone i had not driven the truck for 3 days and when i tried to move it the handbrake was stuck on again and would not release, so i changed from D to R a few times and it released with a bang

    I went to Pearl toyota again today and was informed there was nothing wrong with the brakes again, my wife told them that if it happened again we wanted any faulty parts replaced to fix the problem, their reply was we would have to pay for any parts supplied even though the truck is still under new vehicle warranty and the brakes are faulty

    Anyone else had a similar problem with their Toyota warranty, i have been reliably informed Toyota do have a problem with their brakes on some models
    But they do not want to admit they do

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    Call the main office of Toyota in BKK. Their actions are not at all acceptable.. Simple

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    I'm curious. how does one apply the hand/parking brake? Same old handle between the seats or a BMW-ish tiny electric switch knob.

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    the new cars seem to all have a knob or button for the handbrake - and you need to have your foot on the brake and the car on to operate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    I'm curious. how does one apply the hand/parking brake? Same old handle between the seats or a BMW-ish tiny electric switch knob.
    Handle between the front seats, same as all the other makes of pickup trucks, they are not overpriced imported vehicles with extra things to go wrong with them like electronically controlled handbrakes

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    i have spent approx 40 of my younger years doing my own maintenance on trucks, cars, tractors, loaders etc so i know how it should be done but i am not capable of doing it myself after having a stroke a few years back
    just ordered a genuine Toyota engine oil filter for 215 baht and a pressure can of brake cleaner for 185 baht from Lazada which will be delivered in about 4 days
    once i receive them i will go to B quik and get them to clean the brakes properly and service the pickup at a much lower cost than what Toyota charges and i can check if they do the job to my satisfaction

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    the new cars seem to all have a knob or button for the handbrake - and you need to have your foot on the brake and the car on to operate it
    Complete pain in the arse, tbh. Takes a lot of the fun out of driving.

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    hey Peter is it 2017 or 2019. You have two different dates. One in the title and one in the post..

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    The shoes will just be too closely adjusted, plus, as they said, a bit of dust and/or surface rust from salt air

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    hey Peter is it 2017 or 2019. You have two different dates. One in the title and one in the post..
    Bought it new in April 2017
    I tried calling Toyota Bangkok as you suggested, Like calling a bank on your phone, got the big runaround from one person to another with taped music in between until i eventually got a English speaking Mechanic, he suggested i' made a video (WTF) a pearl toyota mechanic had already been to our house and new what the problem with the brakes is
    He took my phone number and said he would call back which never happened, wife is going to call them back tomorrow, i wish her luck

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    If the handbrake is the old fashioned type, a wire that pulls the brake on one of the back wheel brakes, why does shifting the transmission release it?

    I would suspect a transmission problem, rather than a brake problem. Generally speaking, hand brakes are pretty simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    If the handbrake is the old fashioned type, a wire that pulls the brake on one of the back wheel brakes, why does shifting the transmission release it?

    I would suspect a transmission problem, rather than a brake problem. Generally speaking, hand brakes are pretty simple.
    Bouncing car back and forth to release the stuck brake shoes.

    Happens to mine when I drive home and my soi is flooded... get home pull the handbrake on and dont drive it again for a day or 2 has the rear shoes stuck.

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    The handbrake should be rarely used, to avoid the problems, no need to engage it not on a slope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    The handbrake should be rarely used, to avoid the problems, no need to engage it not on a slope.
    Good point. I never engage mine in BKK

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    ^What stops a manual gearbox car from rolling down the hill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^What stops a manual gearbox car from rolling down the hill?
    You leave it in gear.

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    Even in first gear, mine rolled down the hill backwards, years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    mine rolled down the hill backwards,
    I'll not post a suggestion that may fix a worn gearbox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    The shoes will just be too closely adjusted, plus, as they said, a bit of dust and/or surface rust from salt air
    The brake shoes on all modern vehicles adjust automatically to the right clearance
    I do not think there is a vehicle manufactured now where you have to manually adjust the brake linings which is easy to do if necessary
    So how can they be to closely adjusted and were does the salt come from as we live at least 1 KM from the nearest beach
    And only visit the beach about once a fortnight and park approx 100 metres ( correct spelling English/English) from the beach front

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Even in first gear, mine rolled down the hill backwards, years ago.
    If you set the handbrake which has always been standard practice when parking it would not have happened
    That's as long as your handbrake was in working order of coarse
    Some vehicles will jump out of gear if the gearbox is faulty or badly worn when its under pressure from being parked on a slope

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^What stops a manual gearbox car from rolling down the hill?
    Number one there are no hills in BKK. Number two leave it in gear as I did when I drove a manual here. Three curb your wheels as you must by law in San Francisco. Number four its hard to find a manual car here anymore, yes pickups still have manual. My most recent car is an automatic. I did post I, I I, never engage the hand break...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    The handbrake should be rarely used, to avoid the problems, no need to engage it not on a slope.
    Its standard procedure and recommended in every cars handbook, and always has been

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Good point. I never engage mine in BKK
    Do you ever find anywhere to park so that you need to use a handbrake in Bangkok

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    If the handbrake is the old fashioned type, a wire that pulls the brake on one of the back wheel brakes, why does shifting the transmission release it?

    I would suspect a transmission problem, rather than a brake problem. Generally speaking, hand brakes are pretty simple.
    If the handbrake is stuck on with the engine running moving the transmission from D to R or first to reverse will break the break shoes loose from the brake drum
    You may have to do it several times and rev the engine a little bit carefully as when the shoes release from the brake drum the vehicle will suddenly move

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    When the drums are off it will be found that a little grease is needed. Sorted?

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