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    The more computer and electronically controlled items on a car the more things to go wrong with it which ends up expensive to fix once its out of warranty
    When i had the ranger a back light in the tachometer stopped working , no problem just a light bulb that should not cost more than 100 baht
    Wrong, all the dash gauges are a sealed LED unit which would have cost me 8000 baht to replace if it was out of warranty
    IF you know how to drive who needs lane control ETC just more things to go wrong with a vehicle
    Everything is computer controlled in vehicles now like in the new Boeing 737, best of luck in the future when these items become old and unreliable

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    What car do you own YD?
    Oh, I thought so..
    Not only that he cant drive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by petercallen View Post
    The more computer and electronically controlled items on a car the more things to go wrong with it which ends up expensive to fix once its out of warranty
    Absolutely right Peter. Like everything, it is likely all those sensors will eventually have issues at some point. The cost to repair will be either cost prohibitive or worse yet unavailable.

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    IF you know how to drive who needs lane control ETC just more things to go wrong with a vehicle
    Exactly. I think ultimately people will become completely dependent on the car telling them what to do, what to look out for, how to park etc. Driving is a skill that takes driver input. The more you take away, the worse the driver will become. Kind of like all the brain dead people I see more and more of nowadays.

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    ^The advance of AI will soon make driver-less cars the norm, unfortunately.

    The missus traded in the Pajero for one of those X-pander soccer-mommy shopping carts. Got a good trade-in deal from Mitsu, Rayong.

    Me, I still prefer my Toyota Hilux. Basic, manual transmission, but still fun to drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Absolutely right Peter. Like everything, it is likely all those sensors will eventually have issues at some point. The cost to repair will be either cost prohibitive or worse yet unavailable.



    Exactly. I think ultimately people will become completely dependent on the car telling them what to do, what to look out for, how to park etc. Driving is a skill that takes driver input. The more you take away, the worse the driver will become. Kind of like all the brain dead people I see more and more of nowadays.
    From your posts you would enjoy watching 4WD 24 7 on U tube i did watch it all the time when they were doing things like opening new tracks in the Kimberly region of NW Australia, now its all mud holes, rock climbing ETC that just wreck vehicles especially when there are bypass tracks which they could use to avoid them

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    ^The advance of AI will soon make driver-less cars the norm, unfortunately.

    The missus traded in the Pajero for one of those X-pander soccer-mommy shopping carts. Got a good trade-in deal from Mitsu, Rayong.

    Me, I still prefer my Toyota Hilux. Basic, manual transmission, but still fun to drive.
    Yeah I tend to agree. I am not saying the Pajero is a bad ride, just not what I prefer in a vehicle. My wife really likes it and its her ride. I only drive it on road trips which are not all the often nowadays.

    Like you, I prefer my Hilux. They still remain pretty basic whether auto or manual and you can abuse them and they seem to always work. I'd love to have a Subaru WRX 3.0 SRT here, but that's for a different thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by petercallen View Post
    From your posts you would enjoy watching 4WD 24 7 on U tube i did watch it all the time when they were doing things like opening new tracks in the Kimberly region of NW Australia, now its all mud holes, rock climbing ETC that just wreck vehicles especially when there are bypass tracks which they could use to avoid them
    I watch many off-road vids and events, especially my friends that still go to Moab events in Utah. Some great fun and lots of broken parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Yeah I tend to agree. I am not saying the Pajero is a bad ride, just not what I prefer in a vehicle. My wife really likes it and its her ride. I only drive it on road trips which are not all the often nowadays.

    Like you, I prefer my Hilux. They still remain pretty basic whether auto or manual and you can abuse them and they seem to always work. I'd love to have a Subaru WRX 3.0 SRT here, but that's for a different thread
    The wife liked the Pajero, but because she doesn't have to travel much for work anymore decided to trade it in for a city runaround / school trip car. Fair enough.

    Driving a Hilux here has probably saved my life on a few occasions, tbh. Like a horror movie monster, it cannot be killed.

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    I think its up to individuals choice currently not much you do not get in most late model vehicles , i like the looks of the Pajero but because of the parts supply and reliability of Toyota's i am thinking about buying a Fortuner when the new model comes out in August, its basically a Hilux with 7 seats instead of 5, we now need room for 4 adults 2 children and 1 dog when we go out on occasions
    I would prefer keeping the Hilux really because of its load carrying capacity which i use every now and then but that can be fixed by buying a box trailer
    I have traveled over most of Thailand and there are Toyota dealers just about everywhere i have been, its not the same with other makes of vehicles

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    Quote Originally Posted by petercallen View Post
    The more computer and electronically controlled items on a car the more things to go wrong with it which ends up expensive to fix once its out of warranty
    When i had the ranger a back light in the tachometer stopped working , no problem just a light bulb that should not cost more than 100 baht
    Wrong, all the dash gauges are a sealed LED unit which would have cost me 8000 baht to replace if it was out of warranty
    IF you know how to drive who needs lane control ETC just more things to go wrong with a vehicle
    Everything is computer controlled in vehicles now like in the new Boeing 737, best of luck in the future when these items become old and unreliable
    Yes that is a possible/probable issue. Thankfully the Wife's Pajero Sport has been 100% reliable over the last 5 years and 85,000km. Hope it continues. As an aside, I have a 2014 Subaru Levorg [not in Thailand] with 'Eyesight 2' nanny enhancements. So far it has had no faults either. My 12yo Hilux was recently treated to a body off chassis renovation and a full suspension rebuild - drives better than new, but the ABS is playing up [just a sensor I think]. Should last another decade or so.

    Not sure the B737 is a great example - it's an old 60's hydromechanical design with some poorly executed electronic overlay to mask the development 'enhancements'. But I do get your drift!

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