Thread: This years New Hilux

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

Wheels and tires are fine. It is the wheels arches that are too big?

Pretty big empty space for a 17 inch tire...

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

Originally Posted by ltnt

Tires look to small on he new Toyota and as for larger being better...not in this country with its mini-roadways...I can smell the accidents already...

Wheels and tires are fine. It is the wheels arches that are too big?

You get a big heavy load of cement sacks, bricks etc and those big wheel wells come in handy

Until the front tires come off the ground as is the case more often here than not.

I am looking at this new Toyota as well. Will they offer it with a full 6ft long bed or do they still only offer that 5 foot "cant put shit in it bed/" The new Ford Ranger looked nice but I cant own a Ford. My Dad actually really liked the Chevy Colorado when we stopped by a few dealers on our recent visit. The Duramax motor is very good here in the states and is manufactured by Isuzu.

FWIIW I have been in touch with Toytec here in the states and their lift kit will work with the new Hilux Revo. I plan on lifting mine a bit.

The Tundra here in the states is a huge full size truck. The Tacoma is the Hilux equivalent. I own a 4 dr 6 ft bed Tacoma currently and its a solid ride. The Nav system sucks ass but the truck rides very nice.

Originally Posted by JPPR2

lift kit

why do you need or want a lift kit ?

Originally Posted by JPPR2

I am looking at this new Toyota as well. Will they offer it with a full 6ft long bed or do they still only offer that 5 foot "cant put shit in it bed/" The new Ford Ranger looked nice but I cant own a Ford. My Dad actually really liked the Chevy Colorado when we stopped by a few dealers on our recent visit. The Duramax motor is very good here in the states and is manufactured by Isuzu.

FWIIW I have been in touch with Toytec here in the states and their lift kit will work with the new Hilux Revo. I plan on lifting mine a bit.

The Tundra here in the states is a huge full size truck. The Tacoma is the Hilux equivalent. I own a 4 dr 6 ft bed Tacoma currently and its a solid ride. The Nav system sucks ass but the truck rides very nice.

They must be making the Tacoma bigger than they used to because it used to be the same size as the old Ford Ranger.

You want to lift your truck here due to the rainy season? Big knobby tires?

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

You want to lift your truck here due to the rainy season? Big knobby tires?

Its a Californian thing Boon Mee. Its appearances that matter...not like those tricked out one's in Calif. ever really see any off-road driving.

The 2 door with suicide doors has a 6' bed or thereabouts JP...just drop the tailgate and you've got what you need...even with a 4 door there's more than enough surface area for sheetrock or plywood, just narrow...be sure to get a rack.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by baldrick

Quote: Originally Posted by Boon Mee backup camera? these things should just about be required by law in this day and age

I hate the reversing camera. Give me the sensor alarm any day.

Well, the Toyota's come with the backup sensor as well but if you hate the camera, go with the Germans. BMW does the radar thing - no camera. It's weird to get used to.

Most of us know how to drive correctly and don't need either to back up safely.


^ Toyota does not sell the Vigo in the Untied States, never has. They have a larger truck called the Tacoma they manufacture and sell there and a full size one called the Tundra. The jacked up fake 4 wheel drive thing is alive and well though, all it does is raise the center of gravity and make them more prone to tipping over.

Originally Posted by BobR

Most of us know how to drive correctly and don't need either to back up safely.

Heard of those driverless cars have you Dr. Bob?

Who cares if you don't want a radar sensor to tell you what's going on but civilization keeps striving on and perhaps you'll be left in the dust bin with "Why do we need automatice transmissions?"

Originally Posted by BobR

Most of us know how to drive correctly...

Really...

Some careful observations might counter your esteemed claim.

Originally Posted by BobR

Most of us know how to drive correctly and don't need either to back up safely.

Many a crushed-to-death toddler might not agree. Seems to happen in their own driveway most of the time, when the parent doesn't realise the kid has followed them outside.

Originally Posted by bindog

Originally Posted by BobR

Most of us know how to drive correctly and don't need either to back up safely.

Many a crushed-to-death toddler might not agree. Seems to happen in their own driveway most of the time, when the parent doesn't realise the kid has followed them outside.

That's right.

Back up cameras are a feature that should be standard on all vehicles.

Originally Posted by JPPR2

FWIIW I have been in touch with Toytec here in the states and their lift kit will work with the new Hilux Revo. I plan on lifting mine a bit.

How did they get that developed so quickly, for a vehicle that is non existent in the USA ?

Originally Posted by baldrick

why do you need or want a lift kit ?

Originally Posted by ltnt

Its appearances that matter...not like those tricked out one's in Calif. ever really see any off-road driving.

Originally Posted by BobR

The jacked up fake 4 wheel drive thing is alive and well though

Well clearly for some of you, lifting a truck to fit a bit larger tire escapes you. While I do agree that a great number do it for appearance and some go over the top I happen to be one of those off road users and abusers of a vehicle and if any place needs lifted vehicles with better tires to get around is flood prone Thailand. If it had not been for a lot of the lifted trucks in Thailand during the floods some folks would have never received supplies(extreme case I know). I met up with a group of really nice off road Thai guys during the flood when I was volunteering to help in Ayutthaya and I have stayed in contact with some of them. They plan get togethers, do off road trips into the hills, etc. I get that some of you guys have never been into anything automotive and you putt along to the store and do not know a lug nut from a windshield wiper blade but there is another side and we do build and use them as intended. There are many small off road shops spread through out Thailand offering lift kits, tires, wheels, winches, etc. In fact there is a huge network of Suzuki wheelers. I already met the guys at the shop where I live.

Originally Posted by Fondles

How did they get that developed so quickly, for a vehicle that is non existent in the USA

The frame platform is the same. Toyota did not change anything much suspension wise. The steering, coil over assemblies and rear springs remain unchanged. Most after market companies have products in queue long before the initial vehicle launch. Some work in conjunction with the manufacturers. Like cell phones nowadays. Notice how they can launch a super secret iPhone and the day of launch they have covers, cases, and accessories ready at the stores?

Anyway not to start a debate and send the thread off course. Its one of my planned hobbies versus sitting around doing nothing

If it had not been for a lot of the lifted trucks in Thailand during the floods some folks would have never received supplies

reading your post i am surprisingly reminded of the word "boat".

Originally Posted by taxexile

If it had not been for a lot of the lifted trucks in Thailand during the floods some folks would have never received supplies

reading your post i am surprisingly reminded of the word "boat".

Yes, would have been a far more effective vehicle for getting things around but few had them and what water did exist was about a foot to two deep in many places so paddling and motoring was a challenge. The military 6x6 also known as "6bys" I rode in were fantastic fun. I will say there is an element of fun messing around crossing rivers and along muddy trails. I have done some crazy excursions in the Jeep Jamborees.


But I get what you are saying.

Originally Posted by Fondles

Originally Posted by JPPR2

Originally Posted by Fondles

How did they get that developed so quickly, for a vehicle that is non existent in the USA

The frame platform is the same. Toyota did not change anything much suspension wise. The steering, coil over assemblies and rear springs remain unchanged. Most after market companies have products in queue long before the initial vehicle launch. Some work in conjunction with the manufacturers. Like cell phones nowadays. Notice how they can launch a super secret iPhone and the day of launch they have covers, cases, and accessories ready at the stores?

Anyway not to start a debate and send the thread off course. Its one of my planned hobbies versus sitting around doing nothing

wow. I did not realise the all new Hilux was still using the 15year old chassis.

Design wise yes, refinements are more structural, newer electronics and ride comfort. Lifting a Toyota truck is merely a longer shock, an extended perch for the coilover spring assembly. They are all adjustable with a spanner tool. The rear is either a helper spring with a 2" to 4" arc or some use blocks with a 6-8 degree angle machined in it to keep drive shaft alignment to transfer case Ok coupled of course with longer shocks. That's for the basic 2"-4" lift allowing 33 x 12.5 all terrain tires and no body interference requiring trimming. The steering is not affected by the lift. Of course it will require an alignment after install as the camber is likely off due to the longer shock. Toe and caster should be fine. Toyota makes a really nice easy truck to lift. Chevy is not so easy. Haven't dealt with a Ford in years.

Yuck.

Using spacers (extended perch) in the front to lift a pickup is a terrible way to do it, explains why they already have a kit for it though.

Originally Posted by Fondles

Yuck.

Using spacers (extended perch) in the front to lift a pickup is a terrible way to do it, explains why they already have a kit for it though.

Most use the re arced rear springs which are a bit more money. Some use the spacers for the rear. The entire front is coil over assembly and billet machined and made longer to raise the height. Actually ride height is adjustable from 2-4".

For your reading pleasure if interested. Toytec Lifts: Toyota Lift Kits: FJ Cruiser Lift Kits, Tacoma Lift Kits, Tundra Lift Kits, 4 Runner Lift Kits, Sequoia Lift Kits, Toyota Truck Lift Kits

Probably one of the best kits out there and retains all factory geometry. I know a few of the guys there quite well. I have one of these kits of my Tacoma right now and its rides better than factory and I run 33 x 12.5 tires with beadlock wheels from TRD.

jumping from extended spring perches to complete coil over assemblies is quiet the leap.

which of those kits is compatible with the new Hilux ?

Ridiculous JP. You'll be doing 4 wheeling in Thailand how often? Big tires High center of gravity in a truck that's already roll over unstable, even has an alarm when you exceed the tipping point, loud road sounds, 99.5% of the time driven on the highways, gas/diesel guzzler, maintenance nightmare, and finally difficult for its real purpose, work horse...loading and unloading a raised bed will be more than tedious.

All that said, Have fun and enjoy your truck.

Chevy's have been noted as unreliable here in Thailand...Seem to be a lot of Ford Rangers about, Isuzu's plenty of em, Nissons not so much up here. Suzuki is back in production here...I'm still waiting for Honda to start selling ATV's in Thailand...here's hoping.

Originally Posted by ltnt

Ridiculous JP.

Meh ltnt, Been car racing and off roading all my life. Never rolled a vehicle, in fact not even close. Of course driver competency has a huge impact on it . I will admit I have sunk a few to the doors in mud crossing a river a couple of times. But I just winched it out and cleaned it later.

I may not go wheelin often but when I do, it will be fun like it is here. Its not about frequency, its the quality of the time getting out. Its like motorcycle riding. You do not do it a lot but when you go on a road trip they are a blast. Its all in what one wants to do for hobbies. I am going to have plenty of time to do whatever I want pretty soon.

Originally Posted by ltnt

Chevy's have been noted as unreliable here in Thailand...Seem to be a lot of Ford Rangers about, Isuzu's plenty of em, Nissons not so much up here. Suzuki is back in production here...I'm still waiting for Honda to start selling ATV's in Thailand...here's hoping.

Yeah I am not fond of Chevy's mid size truck here and there. I saw quite a few Rangers out and about on last visit and I like the looks. Did not get to crawl up underneath one to see whats it all about. I do not like the Nissan looks, Isuzu's are OK and the Mazda's are fugly.

And yeah wouldn't a nice ATV be fun to have to blaze around on?.

Originally Posted by Fondles

which of those kits is compatible with the new Hilux ?

I am in contact with my buddies trying to figure it out. I am doing some research from here. I took a load of pictures on the 2012 and 2014 Hilux last time there. The platform is exactly the same as my 2014 Tacoma here except driver location. Toyota will not totally re-tool all components on a design change. Most is aesthetics and interior stuff. Brakes might get bigger. Depends on tires and wheel size changes. I sure hope they drop the rear drum brakes and go with 4 wheel disc. Likely not, its a cost thing.

Ohhh. Ok.

So they do not have a kit ready yet.