Goodbye Krapasaki

**Marmite the Dog** · 05-11-2013, 08:08 AM

Two Europe and Asia-only models will round out Honda’s practical mid-range. Both the 2014 Honda CB650F and 2014 Honda CBR650F are equipped with a new, 650 cc inline-four and sporty styling.

The CB650F is the naked that appears in the photo above. It features a brand new, 649cc in-line four cylinder engine making 87 bhp at 11,000 rpm and 46 lb.-ft. of torque at 8,000 rpm. It also features an all-new twin-spar steel frame and new aluminum swingarm. It’s rear shock is adjustable for preload, while the front 41 mm forks are non-adjustable, and it comes with ABS stock.

The CBR650F will share the same engine and frame, but will come with a full fairing and clip-ons and will also allow for rebound damping adjustment.

2013 EICMA: 2014 Honda CB650F and CBR650F - First Look | RideApart

**Jesus Jones** · 05-11-2013, 09:13 AM

Looks nice. I guess the quickly realized what a fuck-up they made with the 500x, f and r and took a leaf out of Krapasaki's book on the swing-arm design and exhaust position!

But if it doesn't reach Thailand, then what?

**rickschoppers** · 05-11-2013, 09:17 AM

Any prices?

**baldrick** · 05-11-2013, 09:28 AM

what is with the headlights on all 3 650's ?

no one likes round lights anymore ? do the newfangled triangular ones work better ?

**Marmite the Dog** · 05-11-2013, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

But if it doesn't reach Thailand, then what?

Unlikely, seeing as it's made here and I had confirmation of the bike back in April when I met the chief designer of the 500s.

**Marmite the Dog** · 05-11-2013, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Any prices?

Somebody on ThaiPaedo says 330k, which is a shame as 300k would basically halt sales of Kawas 650s. Saying that, it's much more bike, so I guess it should cost more.

**rickschoppers** · 05-11-2013, 09:52 AM

300K sounds better to me.

**VocalNeal** · 05-11-2013, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

... as 300k would basically halt sales of Kawas 650s...

HP is up which is good for magazines bar-room chat and forums but torque is about the same 46 lb.-ft vs 45.5 so for everyday riding it wont be any better.

Versys will still soldier on.

**Marmite the Dog** · 05-11-2013, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

Versys will still soldier on.

Yes, no direct competition to the Versys.

**Marmite the Dog** · 27-11-2013, 08:33 PM

Prices released, 300k for the faired bike and 285k for the naked.

Unconfirmed from some chap at TV.

Kawa are going to have to heavily discount their Er6N & 650 Ninjas if they still want to sell any. Fair enough as they're overpriced anyway.

**Satonic** · 28-11-2013, 10:51 AM

^ Confirmed by Honda Big Wing as their 'special' price for the motor expo from the 28th Nov -10th Dec.

I think the 'special' price bit may be about the finance interest rate not the actual bike price. Deposits starting from 28,000.

**Marmite the Dog** · 28-11-2013, 11:37 AM

^ Yes. they'll probably let Kawa off the hook by adding 50k to the price in the New Year. Hopefully not though.

**shaggersback** · 28-11-2013, 12:06 PM

Should have fully adjustable suspension at that price.
Only twin spar steel frane too. Cheap cheap.

**Satonic** · 28-11-2013, 12:15 PM

ENGINE
Type Liquid-cooled 4-stroke 16-valve DOHC inline-4
Displacement 649cm3
Bore ´ Stroke 67 x 46mm
Compression Ratio 11.4:1
Max. Power Output 64kW @ 11,000rpm (95/1/EC)
Max. Torque 63Nm @ 8,000rpm (95/1/EC)
Oil Capacity 3.5L
FUEL SYSTEM
Carburation PGM-FI electronic fuel injection
Fuel Tank Capacity 17.3L
Fuel Consumption 21km/litre
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Starter Electric
Battery Capacity 12V/8.6AH
ACG Output 343W
DRIVETRAIN
Clutch Type Wet, multiplate with coil springs
Transmission Type 6-speed
Final Drive #525 O-ring sealed chain
FRAME
Type Steel diamond
CHASSIS
Dimensions (L´W´H) 2,110mm x 755mm x 1,145mm
Wheelbase 1,450mm
Caster Angle 25.5°
Trail 101mm
Seat Height 810mm
Ground Clearance 130mm
Kerb Weight 211kg
SUSPENSION
Type Front 41mm conventional telescopic fork120mm stroke
Type Rear Monoshock damper with adjustable preload, 43.5mm stroke
WHEELS
Type Front Hollow-section 5-spoke cast aluminium
Type Rear Hollow-section 5-spoke cast aluminium
Rim Size Front 17M/C x MT3.5
Rim Size Rear 17M/C x MT5.5
Tyres Front 120/70-ZR17M/C (58W)
Tyres Rear 180/55-ZR17M/C (73W)
BRAKES
ABS System Type 2-channel
Type Front 320 x 5.0mm dual hydraulic disc with dual-piston calipers and sintered metal pads
Type Rear 240 x 5mm hydraulic disc with single-piston caliper and resin mold pads
INSTRUMENTS & ELECTRICS
Instruments Digital speedometer, digital bar graph tachometer, dual trip meter, digital bar graph fuel gauge, digital clock
Security System HISS
Headlight 12V, 55W x 1 (low)/55W x 1 (high)
Taillight LED

**Marmite the Dog** · 28-11-2013, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by shaggersback

Should have fully adjustable suspension at that price.
Only twin spar steel frane too. Cheap cheap.

I think that's the point. It's considerably cheaper than the 600 Hornet, so in theory will sell more units. Some companies are 'clever' like that...

**Gerbil** · 28-11-2013, 05:05 PM

hmmm.... it's Christmas. i havent treated myself for a while......

**shaggersback** · 28-11-2013, 06:08 PM

They could sell even more if they upped the suspension specs.
I was playing with a new cb 500 on the Phangna to phuket hwy a few weeks ago.
Made my old 93 Honda 650 look positively ancient over the bumps.
He was very hard to keep up with.
I imagine the 650 would be even better.
Its still a 10,000aud bike tho. Too much money to spend with that downspec suspension.

**Bung** · 29-11-2013, 04:46 AM

Have to say I am a little tempted at 285 k and love the red, white and blue with the gold rims.....was thinking of selling my current bike and going with a Ducati but with this, maybe I will keep it and have a nice hack to throw around with cheap spares if you drop it.

Much nicer than the CB 500's anyway. Good days for Thai motorcycling.

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