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    Quote Originally Posted by Exige View Post
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    It's a 190/50 Bridgestone S20 rear
    Hope they are better than the standard Dunlops they used to fit to the ZX10R in the early days. They were known as Dunlop Widow makers. Which I also found out the hard / painful way.....
    I haven't really tested them yet (obviously fom the 'chicken strips' clearly visible in the pic) but I've read mostly positive reviews from both street and track tests- the only consistent negative comment is that they don't last very long. It's the replacement for the BT-016, which was a very good tire.
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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    I agree that the 14R isn't a 'beautiful' motorcycle (if that was my main concern I'd be riding an 848 EVO and bitching about my sore back and wrists)- it was designed in a wind tunnel to be extremely aerodynamic for its size (much like the love-it-or-hate-it looks of the Hayabusa, which I've also owned), and to be able to handle the massive horsepower and torque it produces.

    It's about brutality, not beauty- I think it's got a lot of eye appeal, personally, but the looks of it certainly aren't for everyone. It gives me a thrill every time I hit the start button- that's exactly what I wanted in a motorcycle- the acceleration is just eyeball-flattening, it handles great for its size, and it has excellent fit-and-finish (as good or better than any other bike I've seen or ridden).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satonic View Post

    Come on Marmite that's a sexy bike! I've been begging my friends at Kwaka to take a deposit from me but they won't
    You're not interested in the Z1000 at the new price of 550K? That's a pretty good buy for LOS, and they aren't going to be around much longer.

    The Z800 is nice as well, but I'd like to have the extra 200cc's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Rice Rockets...

    Now, this here is a motocye!

    Bad ass ... That's the shiz nit.

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    Boring, gimmi a bike that's engineered to go fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satonic View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by poorfalang
    WHAT A UGLY FOKING BIKE THAT IS
    It's a Kawasaki. They all are.
    Right

    Thank you for providing further proof.
    Come on Marmite that's a sexy bike! I've been begging my friends at Kwaka to take a deposit from me but they won't
    I think it's hideous. All Kawas look like they were designed by children to me.

    I'm not saying FS's bike isn't an amazing machine, but they really should employ adult designers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Bad ... That's shit.
    Precisely - it looks American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
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    Bad ... That's shit.
    Precisely - it looks American.
    A Kawasaki is the polar opposite to an American Chopper



    Those girls are getting damp panties just looking at the machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Those girls are getting damp panties just looking at the machine.
    Lucky because it ain't ever going to move much faster than walking pace and then only in a straight line

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    the only consistent negative comment is that they don't last very long.
    They will for you, with your riding habits...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    it really slows the steering).
    At high speeds the amount of tire in contact with the pavement is miniscule...difficult steering, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Bad ass ... That's the shiz nit.
    Why doesn't it have a front mud guard? Were the designers worried about excessive weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    I think it's hideous. All Kawas look like they were designed by children to me. I'm not saying FS's bike isn't an amazing machine, but they really should employ adult designers.
    I have ridden the Z1000. And it's a fantastic bike to ride! The acceleration gets your adrenaline pumping, the superb silky smooth gearbox, the nimbleness of the chassis, all this coupled with Japanese efficiency. You'll soon forget what the bike looks like. (personally should be in black only to hide all the fussy lines)

    I think it's the best bike Kawasaki has to offer! FS should have gotten this beast not the other!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Those girls are getting damp panties just looking at the machine.
    Is it in a Wal*Mart carpark?

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    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla View Post
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    Bad ass ... That's the shiz nit.
    Why doesn't it have a front mud guard? Were the designers worried about excessive weight?
    It's the style of a bobber. And that looks like a 150 front tyre. Thus the front mud guard would have gotten in the way....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    A Kawasaki is the polar opposite to an American Chopper
    True - a Kawasaki isn't a piece of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    A Kawasaki is the polar opposite to an American Chopper
    True - a Kawasaki isn't a piece of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exige
    Thus the front mud guard would have gotten in the way....
    Yeah, of the mud. That's kind of the point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla View Post
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    Thus the front mud guard would have gotten in the way....
    Yeah, of the mud. That's kind of the point!
    I don't think the owner will ride that bike in the mud...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exige View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    I think it's hideous. All Kawas look like they were designed by children to me. I'm not saying FS's bike isn't an amazing machine, but they really should employ adult designers.
    I have ridden the Z1000. And it's a fantastic bike to ride! The acceleration gets your adrenaline pumping, the superb silky smooth gearbox, the nimbleness of the chassis, all this coupled with Japanese efficiency. You'll soon forget what the bike looks like. (personally should be in black only to hide all the fussy lines)

    I think it's the best bike Kawasaki has to offer! FS should have gotten this beast not the other!
    Nothing wrong with the Z1000- it just didn't appeal to me like the 14R- except for the Hayabusa (and possibly the K1300S) there's nothing else in the class- if I had wanted 1000cc's, I probably would have gone for the S1000RR, but it's to much of a track bike for my taste (though it's an amazing machine)- it's also quite small.

    With the recent price drop, you should grab one before they're unavailable if you like it that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
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    it really slows the steering).
    At high speeds the amount of tire in contact with the pavement is miniscule...difficult steering, huh?
    I switched from a 190 to a 200 on my Hayabusa- the steering noticeably slowed (though it was a 50 profile).

    The profile of the tire actually has more to do with the speed of the steering than the width- had I switched to a 200/55 (which I don't think was available at the time in a high speed rated tire, which I needed for the Hayabusa) it might have been a different story- some of the high-end literbikes now come stock with a 200/55.

    You're incorrect about the contact patch being minuscule at high speeds, though- maybe 30 years ago that was the case, but not with modern tires.

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    This will probably be of interest to no one, but since it's my thread I don't care.

    This is the stock secondary throttle plate opening map I pulled out of my ECU with my tuning harness and software (I've also got the fueling and ignition maps)- the Thai settings are exactly the same a the US/UK/EU/Australian 14Rs (I have the maps for those bikes as well) so it's definitely not restricted in any way like he ZX-10R a few years ago.

    I'm going to bump the mid-range settings in the secondary map (which is currently a low-power map that cuts horsepower by 25%- who needs that?) and unleash another 20-25hp fom 3200rpm-7500rpm- it's gonna be ridiculous- I just need to take some time and figure out the proper progression.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    You're incorrect about the contact patch being minuscule at high speeds, though- maybe 30 years ago that was the case, but not with modern tires.
    Link please, I need the education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    secondary throttle plate
    Secondary butterflies? If you have them, yank them off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
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    You're incorrect about the contact patch being minuscule at high speeds, though- maybe 30 years ago that was the case, but not with modern tires.
    Link please, I need the education.
    Read a riding skills book by Keith Code, Nick Ienatsch, Lee Parks, David Hough, etc- none of them mention the contact patch changing at speed (they only reference acceleration, braking, and cornering).

    Maybe you could find a link that backs up your claim- if the contact patch is 'minuscule' at speed, a lot of bikes would be flying off fast corners on the track and street, yet- ridden properly- they don't. The contact patch doesn't change with speed- what does happen is that the limit of the grip can be exceeded in a corner at high speed, and lean angle can affect the contact patch size.

    If anything, the rear tire contact patch will increase under acceleration- your front contact patch will increase under braking (as acceleration and braking change the weight distribution of the bike), and your contact patch will change when cornering- your speed has nothing to do with it.
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