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    Looks a tidy bike if the pegs are lower then your other bike could be a grounding issue nice hot tarmac and sticky tyres,have to see how well it corners at some point.Always a pain when the back wheel starts lifting off the ground but better then having the front tyre let go i suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klong toey
    Looks a tidy bike if the pegs are lower then your other bike could be a grounding issue
    Not the way I ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Now, I'm the first to admit that Honda are taking the piss with calling this bike a CB, because CBs are supposed to be 4 cylinders, but I guess after establishing a brand for 40 years, Honda figured its theirs to do as they wish, so fair enough.
    The original CB's were two cylinder. I bought a CB-500T brand new in 1976. They'd been making CB twins for some time already. It was about 1969 when they came out with first CB-750 four.

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    Honda CB series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    One of the most extensive lines of Honda motorcycles is the CB Series which contains many of their most revered earlier models. Many CB models are still sold as commuting and cruising bikes. All CB series motorbikes have inline engines. The smaller CB models are also popular in vintage motorcycle racing.[1]
    Honda's sport bikes with inline engines are sold as the CBR series

    CB50

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    I don't think that this is right, below



    All CB series motorbikes have inline engines.

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    Had the first issue with the bike yesterday.

    I was with a friend and I asked him to check the oil level while I held the bike upright. He told me that the oil just about managed to reach the bottom of the sight glass. Now the bike had only done 160kms so I concluded that whoever filled the bike up (factory or showroom), they didn't bother running the engine to get the oil into the oil filter. I topped up the oil with some diesel car oil (as opposed to multigrade) as that's the only stuff I could get my hands on out in the sticks.

    I intend to go back to Honda to ask them nicely to change the oil and filter FOC and make them aware that they might be letting bikes go with not enough oil in the sumps.

    I must admit I'm not particularly impressed with the customer service side of things so far.

    They have a Facebook page for the dealer and I posted a message asking for their phone number (it isn't on the FB page of course), and didn't get a reply, despite the manager being active on the site all hours of the day and night.

    I have phoned the manager asking to see if he could source an English language owner's manual. He said he would make enquiries and get back to me. Of course, he hasn't.

    And now the low oil level...

    Really not good enough, but only to be expected when dealing with 7 year old kids.

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    I hope that all turn out well for you Marmite.

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    This is a link to the CB500R service manual- the engine is the same (though obviously there will be some differences)- it will at least suffice as a reference until you can source one for the F:

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwmY.../preview?pli=1

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    For running any engine in higher revs than recomended by dealers should be used in the higher gears when under load eg going up hills etc. not in the lower gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    English language owner's manual.
    Says in fine print this for the F.

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwmY...JKemJRMTg/edit

    Got from a link here.

    http://www.motorcycle.in.th/filemgmt/index.php?id=185

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Had the first issue with the bike yesterday.

    I was with a friend and I asked him to check the oil level while I held the bike upright. He told me that the oil just about managed to reach the bottom of the sight glass. Now the bike had only done 160kms so I concluded that whoever filled the bike up (factory or showroom), they didn't bother running the engine to get the oil into the oil filter. I topped up the oil with some diesel car oil (as opposed to multigrade) as that's the only stuff I could get my hands on out in the sticks.

    I intend to go back to Honda to ask them nicely to change the oil and filter FOC and make them aware that they might be letting bikes go with not enough oil in the sumps.

    I must admit I'm not particularly impressed with the customer service side of things so far.

    They have a Facebook page for the dealer and I posted a message asking for their phone number (it isn't on the FB page of course), and didn't get a reply, despite the manager being active on the site all hours of the day and night.

    I have phoned the manager asking to see if he could source an English language owner's manual. He said he would make enquiries and get back to me. Of course, he hasn't.

    And now the low oil level...

    Really not good enough, but only to be expected when dealing with 7 year old kids.
    Hi,

    You need to be very careful with the oil you put in. If the clutch is a wet clutch it can be damaged by the friction modifying agents in normal car and diesel oil. This is because the clutch sits in the engine oil.

    Mark

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    I would have left it a bit low on oil rather than top it up with the wrong oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TizMe
    I would have left it a bit low on oil rather than top it up with the wrong oil.
    Well, the wrong oil is a low friction oil that a friend uses for his bike. I'd rather have the right level of the slightly wrong oil than not enough of the absolute recommended oil, but I don't think engines work well with not enough oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TizMe
    I would have left it a bit low on oil rather than top it up with the wrong oil.
    Well, the wrong oil is a low friction oil that a friend uses for his bike. I'd rather have the right level of the slightly wrong oil than not enough of the absolute recommended oil, but I don't think engines work well with not enough oil.
    I think you are right there, I doubt a few kms like that will do any harm at all.
    Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Had the first issue with the bike yesterday.

    I was with a friend and I asked him to check the oil level while I held the bike upright. He told me that the oil just about managed to reach the bottom of the sight glass. Now the bike had only done 160kms so I concluded that whoever filled the bike up (factory or showroom), they didn't bother running the engine to get the oil into the oil filter. I topped up the oil with some diesel car oil (as opposed to multigrade) as that's the only stuff I could get my hands on out in the sticks.

    I intend to go back to Honda to ask them nicely to change the oil and filter FOC and make them aware that they might be letting bikes go with not enough oil in the sumps.

    I must admit I'm not particularly impressed with the customer service side of things so far.

    They have a Facebook page for the dealer and I posted a message asking for their phone number (it isn't on the FB page of course), and didn't get a reply, despite the manager being active on the site all hours of the day and night.

    I have phoned the manager asking to see if he could source an English language owner's manual. He said he would make enquiries and get back to me. Of course, he hasn't.

    And now the low oil level...

    Really not good enough, but only to be expected when dealing with 7 year old kids.
    Hi,

    You need to be very careful with the oil you put in. If the clutch is a wet clutch it can be damaged by the friction modifying agents in normal car and diesel oil. This is because the clutch sits in the engine oil.

    Mark
    I've never used anything other than 'normal car oil' in my bikes and never had a problem. Use the correct grade and its all the same anyway, except stuff branded for motorcycles tends to be priced higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draco888
    I've never used anything other than 'normal car oil' in my bikes and never had a problem. Use the correct grade and its all the same anyway, except stuff branded for motorcycles tends to be priced higher.
    Not true actually. Oils marked as low friction oil used in a bike will mean your clutch will suffer from slipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by draco888
    I've never used anything other than 'normal car oil' in my bikes and never had a problem. Use the correct grade and its all the same anyway, except stuff branded for motorcycles tends to be priced higher.
    Not true actually. Oils marked as low friction oil used in a bike will mean your clutch will suffer from slipping.
    I have heard that and understand the theory but I have never experienced it or anyone else I know.

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    Nice bike Marmite. Is the riding position still comfortable once you put 100km or more on it during a ride? I will still be trading in my new CBR250 once I get back in country. Since I will be having a little more dash than originally anticipated, I may still look at the ER6n again as well.

    As a result of too many contact sports while a young man, my back is pretty much fried and a good riding position is essential. I do like the fuel consumption on the Honda but also like the extra horsepower in the Kawaskai. There are lots of comparisons between the two on this site, but overall comfort will determine the choice for me.

    Enjoy the new bike!!

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    ^ If you want comfort, then the Versys would be better for you than the ER6n. More upright sitting position.

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    I have sat on a Versys and you may be right. I think my comment at the time was that it was too much money. I guess when it comes to my back being comfortable, there is no such thing as too much money.

    I will need to sit on both the Versys and ER6n right after each other before reaching a final conclusion.

    Marmite, what do you think when it comes to Versys vs Honda 500F while not taking cost into consideration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Marmite, what do you think when it comes to Versys vs Honda 500F while not taking cost into consideration?
    My thoughts...

    The Honda is better built. The Versys is taller but the Honda still feels like a full-sized bike. The Versys is marginally quicker, but you'll want to ride slower on it. The choice of colours for the Versys is shit this year.

    I have been considering getting an ER6N for about 3 years now, but couldn't bring myself to buy a Kawasaki. As soon as the Honda became available I got it.

    You're more than welcome to have a blast on the F when you're back in Thailand.

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    Thanks for the offer Marmite, I may take you up on it. For now I will follow yours and other threads discussing the pros and cons, but again it will all boil down to a comfortable riding position for my old back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    For now I will follow yours and other threads discussing the pros and cons, but again it will all boil down to a comfortable riding position for my old back.
    Well, there is the 500X which is as upright as the Versys. The only problem I had with it is that the seat is sculptured so I sat too far forward. If you're under 6' that may not be a problem or you should be able to get the seat remade for about 500 baht.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Now, I'm the first to admit that Honda are taking the piss with calling this bike a CB, because CBs are supposed to be 4 cylinders, but I guess after establishing a brand for 40 years, Honda figured its theirs to do as they wish, so fair enough.
    The original CB's were two cylinder. I bought a CB-500T brand new in 1976. They'd been making CB twins for some time already. It was about 1969 when they came out with first CB-750 four.
    I was lucky enough to buy one of the first CBK-750s in Nevada back in 1978. A good friend of mine and I went to the Las Vegas auto show and they had two for sale. He bought one and I bought the other. Really a great bike and I rode the piss out of it with little or no problems.

    The only mods I made to it were adding Kerker headers and a Shoei faring. I wound up selling it to a guy 15 years later who built choppers since he said they were great for customizing.
    Last edited by rickschoppers; 09-04-2013 at 09:34 PM.

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    My first big bike was a second hand CB750 bought around about 1978 as well. It was just a ride though while I was saving to buy a new Suzuki GS1000S Wes Cooley replica.

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