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    Which pickup truck should I choose and why?

    Hi Fellas,

    I'm looking for a new pickup truck to replace my recently sold Toyota Vigo 4X4 Double Cab (4 door) 3.0 liter turbo diesel with ABS.

    I need a truck with a longer bed as the Double Cab bed was too short to carry my motorcycles and still close the back gate, which made me a magnet for the coppers here in Bangkok and on the expressways.

    In hindsight I regret selling the Vigo. The Toyota Vigo 4x4 Double Cab was an awesome truck- it gave me 140k trouble free km and all I ever had to replace were tires, battery and some belts. Being a 3 liter turbo diesel it didn't get great mileage, but I thought it was acceptable and it had some get up and go when I put my foot down. I could usually get about 700km/tank.

    In all the time I had it I hardly ever used the 4WD, so I reckon the next truck will just be 2WD and I really don't need a 3 liter engine, I get my speed fix on the bikes and generally drive quite conservatively. I definitely want ABS- it has saved me several times on Thailand's slippery roads.

    So I've broken it down to the following choices:

    Toyota Vigo Smart Cab 2.5 Liter Diesel ABS


    Nissan Navarra King Cab Calibre 2.5 Liter Diesel



    Mazda BT-50PRO FSC 2.2 Liter ABS


    And finally the Ford Ranger 2.2 Liter Open Cab (which I'm told is very similar to the Mazda- same frame and engine?)


    I just can't get used to the looks of the Misubishi Triton, so that one is out.

    Of the four models / brands listed above, which one would you choose, and why?

    Thanks in advance for your advice

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    this has been done a few times.

    i think the consensus was an orange one

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    OK.
    The Mitzy is a tin can. 2.5 is slow.
    Navara, fast... 6 speed manual... that's what I'm using at the moment, Rattles like a barstard.
    Mazda... dunno.
    I quite liked the Ford... had one in Spain. Comfortable.
    Still prefer the Vigo though. Had a 2.5 manual. Tough as fck.
    Even Laosy couldn't break it.
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    Please say that you have decided on the Ranger. This will save countless dickheads rehashing what they have said earlier.

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    As tincan said, there is only one viable option (unless you're blind then the Mazda is an option).

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    Sorry, I guess this has already been debated, but I did do a search and couldn't find a comparison between these models.

    Seems the new Mazda/Ford has received very positive reviews. I know looks are subjective, but personally I kind of prefer the look of the Mazda.

    But it seems that the Mazdas are more expensive than the equivalent Ford?

    Example:

    Mazda BT-50 PRO FSC 2.2 V ABS 688k Baht
    Ford Open Cab 2.2 XLS ABS 649k Baht

    Why such a price difference? As far as I can tell these trucks are nearly identical. Maybe I'm missing something...

    Oh wait, I think I figured it out. The Ford XLS does NOT have air bags. The XLT does, and costs 679k Baht, so roughly equivalent to the Mazda FSC.

    I have to say that Mazda's Thailand website is shite compared to Ford's... Mazda's site is showing no airbags in their truck, but I could have sworn the BT-50's I looked at at the motor show all had driver and passenger air bags...

    I think both companies are throwing in the same freebies- a year of free 1st class insurance, a bedliner, and... shoot, I think there was something else, but I can't remember it at the moment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK
    I know looks are subjective, but personally I kind of prefer the look of the Mazda.
    I think there's an optional extra for a white stick holder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK
    Of the four models / brands listed above, which one would you choose, and why?
    None of em !

    Go for 4 wheel drive sex



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    Quote Originally Posted by the dogcatcher View Post
    OK.
    Tough as fck.
    Even Laosy couldn't break it.
    I'm not suprised, Toyotas are seemingly indestructible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK
    Of the four models / brands listed above, which one would you choose, and why?
    None of em !

    Go for 4 wheel drive sex


    A forgot about the Isuzu D-max. I had one some years ago and while it was a fine truck and very fuel efficient, one of my big pet peeves about it was that it had a HUGE turning radius. As far as I know the D-Max has only enjoyed cosmetic upgrades in recent years so I suspect it still suffer the same large turning radius.... In contrast my Vigo could U-turn on a two-lane road while the D-max required a multi-point turn to get through the same space. It was a real pain in the butt on some Bangkok U-turns where I could not complete the turn in one go... I recall too that the D-Max was tough to maneuver in some tight parking ramps...

    I have no interest in 4WD and prefer a low truck as it's easier to get the bikes in and out. I'll have to check Isuzu's offerings to see if they have anything that might compete with the Ford/Isuzu 2WD 2-door ABS-equipped pickups.

    The more I explore Ford's impeccable English language website the more I'm inclined to go with them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK
    I know looks are subjective, but personally I kind of prefer the look of the Mazda.
    I think there's an optional extra for a white stick holder!
    I dun get it...

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    I bought a 2009 Toyota Vigo 2WD Smartcab new and would not trade it for anything. Awhile back, I had a weak moment and thought about trading it in on the new Ford Ranger, but then came to my senses.

    The Vigo 2WD has a long enough bed for bikes and also gives you the 2 smaller rear doors. You will not have to pay the higher passenger registration fees like an extended cab and they are indestructible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyBKK View Post
    Sorry, I guess this has already been debated, but I did do a search and couldn't find a comparison between these models.

    Seems the new Mazda/Ford has received very positive reviews. I know looks are subjective, but personally I kind of prefer the look of the Mazda.

    Why such a price difference? As far as I can tell these trucks are nearly identical. Maybe I'm missing something...

    Oh wait, I think I figured it out. The Ford XLS does NOT have air bags. The XLT does, and costs 679k Baht, so roughly equivalent to the Mazda FSC.

    I think both companies are throwing in the same freebies- a year of free 1st class insurance, a bedliner, and... shoot, I think there was something else, but I can't remember it at the moment...

    Just looking at the photo's of the Mazda BT50 and the Ford Ranger I can see the following differences which would make up the price difference.

    The Mazda has an aluminium side step the Ford doesn't.
    The Mazda has 17 inch mag wheels, the Ford has 16 inch steel wheels.
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    Avoid the Ranger, Ford are a pack of cunts. when the Clutch/flywheel/throw out bearing start displaying a loud audible metal on metal clunk on gear changes they will tell it is normal and that all the Rangers do it.

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    None of them have a bed long enough to allow you to close the tailgate with a bike in the back (unless you load it on an angle, which is a bad idea) as far as I know- I believe the Thai-market trucks all have a bed of 5' (150cm) or slightly less.
    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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    Most importantly....
    The Vigo has drinks holders in front of the air conditioning vents.
    They exactly fit a Chang bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    None of them have a bed long enough to allow you to close the tailgate with a bike in the back (unless you load it on an angle, which is a bad idea) as far as I know- I believe the Thai-market trucks all have a bed of 5' (150cm) or slightly less.

    Why is loading on an angle a bad idea ?

    FWIW the bed length on the Ranger's is 1847mm for the open cab and 1549mm for the double cab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    None of them have a bed long enough to allow you to close the tailgate with a bike in the back (unless you load it on an angle, which is a bad idea) as far as I know- I believe the Thai-market trucks all have a bed of 5' (150cm) or slightly less.

    Why is loading on an angle a bad idea ?

    FWIW the bed length on the Ranger's is 1847mm for the open cab and 1549mm for the double cab.
    It's a bad idea as the chances of the bike hitting the deck if you have to stop short are greatly increased- and yes, I did see the pic of your bike loaded at an angle in the bed of your truck so I already know you disagree- don't get all pissy now...

    I wasn't aware the bed length was that long on the open cab- do you have a link for that?

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    I won't be getting pissy but if the bike is tied down correctly the angle should not matter at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    I wasn't aware the bed length was that long on the open cab- do you have a link for that?
    Specification - Hilux Vigo Smart Cab - Toyota Motor Thailand Co.,Ltd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    I won't be getting pissy but if the bike is tied down correctly the angle should not matter at all.
    Well, you have to give the suspension a little slack (compressing the forks around 50% is good)- if you stop short, the back of the bike can move toward the front, causing it to fall over sideways or at least be over-stressed to the point of possible damage no matter how it's secured.

    Unless you've got wheel chocks mounted (in a strange position), I would ride with the tailgate open and the bike straight in the bed before I put it on an angle.

    Whatever works for you, though- I don't want to derail the thread- I've got a trailer anyway, so what do I know?
    Last edited by FailSafe; 28-03-2013 at 08:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    I wasn't aware the bed length was that long on the open cab- do you have a link for that?
    Specification - Hilux Vigo Smart Cab - Toyota Motor Thailand Co.,Ltd.
    We're referring to the Ranger, not the Vigo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the dogcatcher
    I quite liked the Ford
    Quote Originally Posted by can123
    Please say that you have decided on the Ranger
    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    As tincan said, there is only one viable option
    ..................

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    We're referring to the Ranger, not the Vigo.
    Ford Thailand | All-New Ranger - Specification Data

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    Avoid the Ranger, Ford are a pack of cunts. when the Clutch/flywheel/throw out bearing start displaying a loud audible metal on metal clunk on gear changes they will tell it is normal and that all the Rangers do it.

    This is on the ranger you just bought?

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