Yamaha R1, would I be mad to buy one?

**jizzybloke** · 29-01-2013, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by dickhead travelmate

I've owned the ZX10R, CBR1000RR & an R1.
I have to admit the R1 is the most docile of the bunch. Very user friendly.

Good luck.

You've been caught out telling big fat lies before......

**Norton** · 30-01-2013, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Spin

Now I have to wait three days for an international tt to arrive before I can get my hands on it

When you do come on by and let me see it.

**peterpan** · 30-01-2013, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by jizzybloke

Originally Posted by dickhead travelmate

I've owned the ZX10R, CBR1000RR & an R1.
I have to admit the R1 is the most docile of the bunch. Very user friendly.

Good luck.

You've been caught out telling big fat lies before......

Come on jizzy, We all know that, I am the biggest liar on the board, is travelmate trying to dethrone me? The bastard

**Exige** · 30-01-2013, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Spin

in excellent condition and a deal was promptly struck and deposit paid.

Congratulations!

**Spin** · 30-01-2013, 12:49 PM

Ok trips to Si Bung Ruang and Roi - et are on the cards

The bike has a road tax sticker on it that has a bangkok registration number on it. The seller also has a bangkok number plate with the same number on it.

In addition to that there are several photocopies of what looks like the first page of a normal Thai green registration book, the details show the year 2006, Yamaha YZF-R1 and the actual frame number and engine number of the bike.

I questioned the seller about the location of the green book, he said there isn't one and all this stuff is known as "tabien boo-am" which I think translates as clone / replica / to decieve or something like that.

It turned out my wife knew the family and friends of the guy selling it and got talking. The previous owned had given the current owner his phone number and said that if you ever get stopped by the police then to call a number and all would be sorted. The wife got on the phone to him, he's a copper in Bangkok, he forged all this himself and there is another R1 running around with the genuine book somewhere or other!

Shady fockers the BIB!

**tj916** · 30-01-2013, 12:56 PM

Be careful. A couple of months ago I hired a Rossi replica R1 for a trip to Koh Chang from Pattaya.
The journey up there was Ok, roads weren't to bad, and although the tyres were well past their best a lot of fun was had.

On Lkoh Chang was a different matter I don't think I ever got out of second gear, and a glitch in the fuel injection at about 3000 rpm made it a complete pain.

It was so bad I stopped the girlfriend riding on the back. (Good excuse to get out on my own LOL).

Coming back was no fun at all, the road is in a lot worse condition and I had a real scare when I made a quick getaway from a set of lights. At about 150 klicks, I hit some bump/ripples and had one of the worst tank slippers I had ever experienced. Bad enough to have both fleets of the pegs.

Pulling over to the next garage, I checked everything, tyre pressures, swing arm bearings, head bearings, underpants and everything checked out except the pants.

Maybe suspension set up to hard I don't know.

When I got to Rayong, like a twat I missed the by pass and ended up going through the centre of town, in rush hour. The fan kicked in straight away and proceeded to fry me for what seemed like hours.

Eventually handed it back to the hirer feeling like I'd ridden 600k rather than 260k.

Owned a 99 R1 from new until this year in the UK. In my view sports bikes just aren't suited to Thailands roads.

But then again if you really want it, go for it. You only live once.

**FailSafe** · 30-01-2013, 01:00 PM

^^

No way I would buy it with dodgy paperwork like that- for all you know it's a stolen bike- saving a few baht isn't worth it- there are plenty of other R1 models out there.

**Spin** · 30-01-2013, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by tj916

I hired a Rossi replica R1 for a trip to Koh Chang from Pattaya.

Islands are probably the worse places in Thailand to ride even a Honda wave, I wouldn't even consider going on an R1 and especially a rented one.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

No way I would buy it with dodgy paperwork like that

Up to you, as they say. It has all the correct paperwork from a sap-a-sam-it and invoice point of view.

The dodgy stuff will all be removed and thrown in a drawer.

Two more days

**FailSafe** · 30-01-2013, 01:16 PM

Very true- up to you- I just like to have things as properly sorted as possible in LOS.

Can you get full insurance on it? I don't believe so without a proper green book.

**Spin** · 30-01-2013, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by FailSafe

I don't believe so without a proper green book.

I had full insurance on my blackbird and also the cb400 I sold recently, It is easy to get and the green book is not needed. The insurance certificate shows the chassis number instead of the reg number. For an r1 it should be 1300 for third class, about 12,000 baht for second class with 70% payout on thft and about 20,000 for full first class cover. Probably go with the second class myself.

**AntRobertson** · 30-01-2013, 02:34 PM

20k is a lot, I think our cars are close enough to that. Reflects the relative risk I suppose.

**FailSafe** · 30-01-2013, 02:39 PM

Most new literbikes cost about as much as small cars like a Honda Jazz or Mazda 3 (650K+) in LOS (where they'd be about half that in most other countries)- replacement costs are a lot, and insurance premiums are commensurately priced (though the risk factor does come into play).

**socal** · 30-01-2013, 10:59 PM

Get an R1. Highest red line for a liter bike.

I have an R6 and I love it but I'm over 6 feet so ppl say its a tad small for me

**English Noodles** · 03-02-2013, 06:19 PM

Green book is not needed until it's time to make a claim.

**Satonic** · 03-02-2013, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by socal

Get an R1. Highest red line for a liter bike.

I have an R6 and I love it but I'm over 6 feet so ppl say its a tad small for me

I'm 6ft and have owned both. I much preferred the R6 for my style of riding (twisty mountain roads). I'm actually looking for a R6 at the moment as a track bike.

The R1 is an awesome machine and I loved mine, but I could never use it to it's full potential on the Thai roads. The R6 you can!

**Spin** · 04-02-2013, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by Satonic

The R1 is an awesome machine and I loved mine

This bike just puts a massive grin on my face whenever I ride it. It handles wonderfully, the steering is like nothing I've encountered before. Perfect!

**Mr Earl** · 05-02-2013, 11:16 AM

Ya made a good choice me thinks. Fat power is fat city!

Seems to me in some markets they put the R1 engine in a more upright street-fighter type chassis, now I think I could go for that ticket.

**Mozzbie47** · 05-02-2013, 11:53 AM

Talked to a guy recently, he was on an R6, said he had the R1, cos most of his riding was city stuff, the R1 was to much of a handfull, enjoys the R6 much more.
I've had plenty of big capacity bikes in the past, but the last bike was a ZZR 600, very nice and I think more than enough bike for road use.
Also, keep in mind, 600's of today would blow big bike of just a few years ago into the weeds.

**r1 pet** · 05-02-2013, 02:08 PM

what your forgeting here is the torque and rev range of a litre bike,
yes for sure a 600 will do in the city, so will a 250,
a 6oo is a revy beast to keep on song, will bog down at low revs,
the R1, if your so inclined, can be put in 6th gear, and will take you from 25mph to its top of 175 plus, you can of course mix up the gears on the way up just for the fun of it,
as for being a handfull, no, ime over 6ft, lived within the m25 london ring road,no problem,
toured all over europe including the swiss alps,
as i have said, your granny could take it shopping.

**Mozzbie47** · 05-02-2013, 06:58 PM

^^^ No offence mate, but i've had mates tell me I dont even have to change gear, just leave it in 3 rd, I dont concider that to be much fun, half the fun is changing gears, selecting the gear for the given corner, if you dont change gears you should get an auto, Honda made one years ago. As for smaller cappacity bikes being revvy, the 600's ive ridden arent revvy, yes you might have to drop down a gear to get them in the power band, but once again, I concider that to be the enjoyment. I did have a 250 E Yamaha road racer years ago, now that was revvy, anything below 7 or 8000 RPM was nothing at all, but when on the pipe, bloody hell it got going then, once again, part of the fun was keeping it on the boil, JMO

**Mr Earl** · 06-02-2013, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by FailSafe

(though the risk factor does come into play).

The risk factor is the choice of being bored to death slowly, set your hair on fire with this. This is not boring,

This is the Full Monte:

**poorfalang** · 06-02-2013, 12:54 PM

i saw two of them in khon kaen on saturday, looked very much like it at least
i was on a small bike(very small) in the city
i nearly came off me bike just staring at it
stunning
wish i could afford one

**yankee99** · 06-02-2013, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Originally Posted by FailSafe

(though the risk factor does come into play).

The risk factor is the choice of being bored to death slowly, set your hair on fire with this. This is not boring,

This is the Full Monte:

Sadly the ducati above has neither the power or twisty ability of the r1. It would be better compared to a hd.

**Mr Earl** · 07-02-2013, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by yankee99

Sadly the ducati above has neither the power or twisty ability of the r1. It would be better compared to a hd.

You're right, but the duc is far more sexy than he stupid HD.

Like I said earlier; the R1 Yamaha would be my first choice. That engine has no equal.

Perhaps the only motorcycle engine better is the BMW R1100GS. BMW got that one right, right out of the box. It has to be the most pleasant an user friendly motorcycle engines ever produced. The 1150 and 1200 simply fall a bit short of the 1100. That's why you rarely see the 1100gs's for sale. Most owners recognize what a "peach" of motorcycle it is! It is no question the best motorcycle I've ever owned. I'll never sell mine!

**FailSafe** · 08-02-2013, 11:53 AM

^

Actually the S1000RR has been at the top-of-the-heap when it comes to literbikes for a while- the rest of the Big Four have managed to put out some pretty good bikes as well:

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