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Heh...be happy with what you there eh, psudelous? :rofl:
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Heh...be happy with what you there eh, psudelous? :rofl:
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Dont know why you are showing that it's behind a 911.Quote:
Originally Posted by socal
This is the problem when you have to write things for yourself Boon Queer. It doesn't really make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
"Be happy with what you there eh"
What does that actually mean? Some reference to an American car I guess, or a car designed for the American market. Not quite sure. But "be happy with what you there eh". Read it a few times now Boon Ballsucker and I still have no idea what you are getting at.
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You are indeed a thick POS there aren't you, PD?
The car is a geo metro and typifies your taste & knowledge of automobiles.
You lost the Corvette/Euro Trash Car debate and the shame (in your eyes) is palatable...:chitown:
[quote=pseudolus;2332026]fuck me your a thick fuck aint ya, just cause some poncy little soap dodger owns a small percentage of something does not make it British.Quote:
Originally Posted by FondlesDave is Co-Founder of Prodrive and Chairman, the money spent on Aston was his not Prodrives..... you really struggle with this concept don't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolusTaking prodrives finances out of Dave's Finances is like trying to take a very specific cup of water out of a bath tub full to the brim. Dave is prodrive. When one person owns a company his finances are linked 100% with the finances of that company. As I CLEARLY said Dave did not link it to Prodrive to mitigate it's risks. Sound financial management there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fondleswhat are you bleeting on about, Prodrive has no financial interest in Aston.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
So who is the fool trying to say Aston is not British? Try saying again it is not British. Try it and prove it. You can't because it is British.
Why is it that American's who are wrong, knit pick and find one little point and try to win their fake argument with that? I would imagine that there are lots of Americans who think the Mona Lisa is shit and to prove the point they look at the path in the back ground and say the road bends unrealistically therefore it is shit. Fools.
It would be interesting to know how much of the 475million quid he actually put in as this is the % of Aston that is British.
OK - well in that case, GM, on the brink of bankruptcy again, is a Chinese company. 26% of it is owned by the US government, which in turn is in debt to trillions to the Chinese. So that part is owned by the Chinese. The rest of the firm is basically in hock to the banks, who also owe considerable sums to the Chinese. So, if you are unable to separate ownership from investment money, GM is Chinese. OK?Quote:
On 12 March 2007, a consortium led by Prodrive chairman David Richards purchased Aston Martin for £475m (US$848m).
The group included American investment banker John Singers and twoKuwaiti companies, Investment Dar and Adeem Investment;
Prodrive had no financial involvement in the deal. Ford kept a stake in the company valued at £40m (US$70m)
To call it a British is simply a simple little boy grasping at straws.
It's British, you fool.
"The Geo Metro was a marketing and manufacturing variation of the Suzuki Cultus available in North America from 1989 through 2001 as a joint effort of GM and Suzuki."Quote:
Originally Posted by Boon Mee
Thick because I can not understand the comprehensibly spurious dribbles of a moron? Well that's rich.
Then you try to make a point about how great US cars are by posting up a picture of a GM car, built in Canada, and only ever sold in north america I guess and think I am daft because I haven't got a clue what it is?
I think you have brain damage Gaytard from your head slamming against the metal head boards in those sailor bunks. Weirdo.
[QUOTE=Fondles;2332075]Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolusfuck me your a thick fuck aint ya, just cause some poncy little soap dodger owns a small percentage of something does not make it British.Quote:
Originally Posted by FondlesDave is Co-Founder of Prodrive and Chairman, the money spent on Aston was his not Prodrives..... you really struggle with this concept don't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolusTaking prodrives finances out of Dave's Finances is like trying to take a very specific cup of water out of a bath tub full to the brim. Dave is prodrive. When one person owns a company his finances are linked 100% with the finances of that company. As I CLEARLY said Dave did not link it to Prodrive to mitigate it's risks. Sound financial management there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fondles
So who is the fool trying to say Aston is not British? Try saying again it is not British. Try it and prove it. You can't because it is British.
Why is it that American's who are wrong, knit pick and find one little point and try to win their fake argument with that? I would imagine that there are lots of Americans who think the Mona Lisa is shit and to prove the point they look at the path in the back ground and say the road bends unrealistically therefore it is shit. Fools.
It would be interesting to know how much of the 475million quid he actually put in as this is the % of Aston that is British.
OK - well in that case, GM, on the brink of bankruptcy again, is a Chinese company. 26% of it is owned by the US government, which in turn is in debt to trillions to the Chinese. So that part is owned by the Chinese. The rest of the firm is basically in hock to the banks, who also owe considerable sums to the Chinese. So, if you are unable to separate ownership from investment money, GM is Chinese. OK?Quote:
On 12 March 2007, a consortium led by Prodrive chairman David Richards purchased Aston Martin for £475m (US$848m).
The group included American investment banker John Singers and twoKuwaiti companies, Investment Dar and Adeem Investment;
Prodrive had no financial involvement in the deal. Ford kept a stake in the company valued at £40m (US$70m)
To call it a British is simply a simple little boy grasping at straws.
It's British, you fool.
Fine - GM is Chinese because although it is an American company, all of the money in it is Chinese. The Corvette Tsing Tau will be out soon no doubt. mind you, the build quality might improve.
Concept that changed the world
By Thomas Geiger
5:30 AM Thursday Jan 17, 2013
The Chevrolet Corvette has become a treasured automotive icon
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The Chevrolet Corvette was America's first home-grown sports cabriolet after World War II. Photo / Supplied
When it was first shown to the public as a concept at a New York hotel in January 1953 nobody expected the creamy, tail-finned Chevrolet Corvette to become a treasured automotive icon.
It went on to be one of the most successful sporting cars of all time.
After a smooth debut at the Waldorf Astoria as part of General Motors travelling "Motorama" exhibition 60 years ago, the car ran into some serious production snags.
GM had pinned its hopes on the Chevrolet Corvette which was designed by Harley Earl and originally known by its codename XP-122.
The car giant wanted to produce America's first home-grown sports cabriolet after World War II to show the nation and beyond that US engineers could compete with European sports-car manufacturers.
Until then North American makers were best-known for heavyweight limousines often referred to disparagingly as "yank tanks".
Although strapped for development cash, Earl was determined to shave weight off the Corvette. He opted for bodywork made from glass fibre.
Enthusiasts are grateful to this day for the far-sighted decision since fibreglass does not rust, ensuring that many Corvettes have survived.
The first few hundred Corvettes were bought straight from the showroom floor and customers were hungry for more. Unfortunately, fashioning the fibreglass body was more complicated than at first thought. The performance of the car also left much to be desired.
To cut costs Earl had used a six-cylinder pick-up engine of prewar design.
The unit boasted 3.8 litres of displacement but "only" 150 horsepower. The Corvette was hard pressed to top 170km/h which left it literally far behind premium European sports cars such as the Jaguar XK120.
The euphoria was short-lived and although the first six month's worth of production was sold out, only two years after introduction, the Corvette faced the axe.
New, more powerful engines were the answer and they ignited what was to become one of the quintessential US muscle cars. A V8 was offered, initially with 4.3 litres. Straightline performance went up to more than 200km/h and sales took off.
A spin in one of the original Chevy roadsters is like a trip back in time to an era when music blared out from jukeboxes and MP3 players had not been even thought of. The driver takes his place in a tiny leather seat before snapping back the softtop, adjusting his sunglasses and turning the ignition key.
The motor bursts into life before settling down to a deep, rumbling tickover. Getting under way is not so easy. The footwell is amazingly narrow and the fragile gearstick has to be carefully threaded into place.
Once first gear is engaged the Corvette surges forward.
Thanks to its low kerb weight of 1300kg and excellent roadholding the Corvette can be thrown into curves with abandon - provided the weather is dry.
Current models have all the driver assistance gizmos but the early cars have none and these can be a handful on wet roads.
Accident damage can be very costly too. A well-kept Corvette C1 is worth around $125,000.
The Corvette is now in its sixth edition and the seventh incarnation will weigh in at this week's Detroit auto show. Details are still sketchy but one thing is for sure. The car will feature two seats and a zesty engine with eight cylinders.
-AP
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I would rather have the Vette pictured above than a new ZR-1, frankly- I love that model.;)
I actually watched the horrible movie 'Mr. Wonderful' yesterday just to see the sweet Vette (a 1957, I believe- edited- it's a 1959) that Matt Dillon drives in it.
"Concept that changed the world....the American World. Not the real whole world who were already putting out spectacular sports cars already"
Corrected the title for you mate.
I am not sure what the point of the argument isQuote:
Originally Posted by socal
the cars go "sideways" through corners?
well, controlled drifts are all part of racing, they help you get around the track faster
so if a car goes "sideways", that is probably the intent of the driver
[quote=pseudolus;2332084]When did the chinks invest in GM ?Quote:
Originally Posted by FondlesQuote:
Originally Posted by pseudolusfuck me your a thick fuck aint ya, just cause some poncy little soap dodger owns a small percentage of something does not make it British.Quote:
Originally Posted by FondlesDave is Co-Founder of Prodrive and Chairman, the money spent on Aston was his not Prodrives..... you really struggle with this concept don't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
It would be interesting to know how much of the 475million quid he actually put in as this is the % of Aston that is British.
OK - well in that case, GM, on the brink of bankruptcy again, is a Chinese company. 26% of it is owned by the US government, which in turn is in debt to trillions to the Chinese. So that part is owned by the Chinese. The rest of the firm is basically in hock to the banks, who also owe considerable sums to the Chinese. So, if you are unable to separate ownership from investment money, GM is Chinese. OK?Quote:
On 12 March 2007, a consortium led by Prodrive chairman David Richards purchased Aston Martin for £475m (US$848m).
The group included American investment banker John Singers and twoKuwaiti companies, Investment Dar and Adeem Investment;
Prodrive had no financial involvement in the deal. Ford kept a stake in the company valued at £40m (US$70m)
To call it a British is simply a simple little boy grasping at straws.
It's British, you fool.
Fine - GM is Chinese because although it is an American company, all of the money in it is Chinese. The Corvette Tsing Tau will be out soon no doubt. mind you, the build quality might improve.
Aston Martin is a company that was British owned and British madeQuote:
Originally Posted by Fondles
It was taken over by Ford who increased production somewhat
Ford have now sold out to a consortium led by David Richards
here is a link for you
Aston Martin back under British ownership - Telegraph
How much in debt re they? Who holds the debts? The US governement owns a 26% share as well. Who hold the trillion dollar debt the US has?
Aston is British. Fool.
I would have thought slower.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
Nobody in Britland holds a majority share so calling it a British company is a bit of a stretch, in reality it is American/Kuwait/British company. in that order.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
But working on Pedo's theory of GM being Chinese owned due to the loaned to them from the Government was possibly from China it would interesting to see where the consortium led by David Richards actually aquired the funds from, in all possibilities Aston is owned by the Chinese as well !!!!
Yep, me too. It's a beautiful car.Quote:
Originally Posted by FailSafe
I don't like the new one at all and it's nothing to do with handling or performance, both those are a distant second and third to me behind the emotion that a car inspires.
Correct- if you're sliding, you're slowing down- you'd have been better off entering the corner a little slower and being able to get back on the gas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exige
It's the equivalent of 'backing it in' on a bike- it looks cool, but it's not a fast way through the turn.
of course drifting slows the car but you can go into the turn faster
in a perfect world, if the car can go around the turn with no drift, as if on rails, then that would be the fastest way, but most sports cars cannot when racing, they go in fast, lose speed with drift, come out quicker than their rival on their tail
hopefully
Why are you calling me a Pedo you jumped up know nothing sack of yank puke small cocked shit for brains? You're fucking scum now fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by FondlesNobody in Britland holds a majority share so calling it a British company is a bit of a stretch, in reality it is American/Kuwait/British company. in that order.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
But working on Pedo's theory of GM being Chinese owned due to the loaned to them from the Government was possibly from China it would interesting to see where the consortium led by David Richards actually aquired the funds from, in all possibilities Aston is owned by the Chinese as well !!!!
I don't think that is correct, I think the Italians own most of it now?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
Just before xmas 37.5% of the total firm was sold to an investment fund.Quote:
Originally Posted by draco888I don't think that is correct, I think the Italians own most of it now?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
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Originally Posted by pseudolusWhy are you calling me a Pedo you jumped up know nothing sack of yank puke small cocked shit for brains? You're fucking scum now fuck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by FondlesNobody in Britland holds a majority share so calling it a British company is a bit of a stretch, in reality it is American/Kuwait/British company. in that order.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
But working on Pedo's theory of GM being Chinese owned due to the loaned to them from the Government was possibly from China it would interesting to see where the consortium led by David Richards actually aquired the funds from, in all possibilities Aston is owned by the Chinese as well !!!!
Yeah my bad, could not recall how to spell your name but knew it was close(ish) to Pedo..... Sorry bout that.
yes, the italians, so I'm not sure about the 'american/kuwait/british' order of ownership. I dont see how americans can hold the highest stake....Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolusJust before xmas 37.5% of the total firm was sold to an investment fund.Quote:
Originally Posted by draco888I don't think that is correct, I think the Italians own most of it now?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrAndy
It's completely Shit. Not seen that in the news. Mind you, those Italians boys did wonders with Ducatti so here's hoping. So it's all by the by now. No mass production british cars any more. A lot of British people making majestic cars with Johnnie Foreigners cash; not a bad consolation though I guess.