Thread: Anybody Know the Max Tongue Weight for the 3.2 Wildtrak?

Originally Posted by Fondles

Originally Posted by Ratchaburi

Originally Posted by Fondles

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by Fondles

They should make some vids to get this point across then.

The vids are for consumers and aren't going to get very technical- you can see that they have a proper set-up, though.

Go visit them if you're interested in a trailer and see for yourself- they're in BKK- I'm heading there next month.

Good for you and I hope your happy with the product.

As for visiting....yeah nah. My prototype workshop puts them to shame with just equipment, add to that the expat experts overseeing the operation (1 Boilermaker/ 1 Machinist/ 1Sheet metal) the Thai staff are well versed in how it should be done properly using the correct consumables for the correct process.

If I decide I need a trailer I am sure I can sort one myself.

Talk about your self skid man, you are so farr up your own ---- it will be hard to get you out

Jealous you have to use the services of Somchai and his stick welder are you ?

notice I did not mention the full product design, development and CAD dept I also have access to.

Mister Skid can you weld SAF can you Mister Skid

I never knew the subject of trailers could arouse such passion!

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by Fondles

Never said they make a bad product, how could I when I have not seen one or been to their facility.

What I was saying though is do not have it made from Stainless steel, it will be heavier, more expensive and more prone to cracking (roads out here are pretty ordinary and the Stainless joints will Fatigue crack long before mild steel does).

Get them to do one from mild and have it gal dipped and it will outlive you, you know, the ones they say they are good at building (read their website, thats their bread and butter work).

You absolutely implied they made a bad product in several posts, claiming incorrect equipment and untrained staff, but whatever...

Galvanized steel doesn't have the longevity of stainless- it will rust at every tiny nick and ding, and then completely rust through once the coating wears off- no thanks. To say it will 'outlive' me (especially in LOS) is ridiculous- it will last a few years and then lose structural integrity.

They sell a lot of galvanized steel for two reasons- one, it's cheap, and people want to save money rather than bite-the-bullet and pay a lot upfront, and two, it's better for marine applications (stainless needs oxygen to maintain its coating) and they make a lot of boat trailers.

Each to their own and all that but I would much prefer something that slowly rotted away before my eyes than something that just randomly gave up to fatigue one day and my precious motorcycle departed company from the tow vehicle and possibly killed a few randoms on the way.

You want Stainless Steel, have Stainless Steel, good for you.

fucks me why you would want a trailer that is both heavier and more expensive when the alternate will do you just fine, must be the "my check book is bigger than you cock" syndrome that seems to effect a lot out here.

Originally Posted by draco888

I never knew the subject of trailers could arouse such passion!

No shit- I just needed to know my truck's friggin' tongue-weight and look what happened.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by draco888

I never knew the subject of trailers could arouse such passion!

No shit- I just needed to know my truck's friggin' tongue-weight and look what happened.

And with the correct towbar you was told of it's capacity.

Originally Posted by FailSafe

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I'm not crazy about the construction of it- I don't like the the tubular frame or rails (which I bet rattle quite a bit) or the lack of wheel locks, and the (seeming) lack of suspension- I probably wouldn't go for a similarly-constructed one, and I can see why you're so down on trailers.

How do you haul a single bike? I don't see rails down the middle (your third pic didn't show up).

I understand the points you made earlier regarding putting a bike in the bed rather than pulling a trailer (though the fact I'm getting a lockbox or tonneau cover would make that impossible), but I also think that a better-constructed model might have swayed your opinion a bit.

Failsafe you are spot on here

The bike I most enjoyed owning was my 2000 Hayabusa, and I'm trying to get back to that- I thought it was ugly (and still do) but I didn't care- as you noted, every inch of the Kawi was designed in a wind-tunnel and there's nothing there without purpose.

I'm no longer interested in touring- if I was, the Triumph would really appeal to me, but I want another beast of a bike (if I can justify the price- time will tell).

In another five years I'll look for a Concours or something similar.

Originally Posted by Fondles

Originally Posted by FailSafe

Originally Posted by Fondles

Never said they make a bad product, how could I when I have not seen one or been to their facility.

What I was saying though is do not have it made from Stainless steel, it will be heavier, more expensive and more prone to cracking (roads out here are pretty ordinary and the Stainless joints will Fatigue crack long before mild steel does).

Get them to do one from mild and have it gal dipped and it will outlive you, you know, the ones they say they are good at building (read their website, thats their bread and butter work).

You absolutely implied they made a bad product in several posts, claiming incorrect equipment and untrained staff, but whatever...

Galvanized steel doesn't have the longevity of stainless- it will rust at every tiny nick and ding, and then completely rust through once the coating wears off- no thanks. To say it will 'outlive' me (especially in LOS) is ridiculous- it will last a few years and then lose structural integrity.

They sell a lot of galvanized steel for two reasons- one, it's cheap, and people want to save money rather than bite-the-bullet and pay a lot upfront, and two, it's better for marine applications (stainless needs oxygen to maintain its coating) and they make a lot of boat trailers.

Each to their own and all that but I would much prefer something that slowly rotted away before my eyes than something that just randomly gave up to fatigue one day and my precious motorcycle departed company from the tow vehicle and possibly killed a few randoms on the way.

You want Stainless Steel, have Stainless Steel, good for you.

fucks me why you would want a trailer that is both heavier and more expensive when the alternate will do you just fine, must be the "my check book is bigger than you cock" syndrome that seems to effect a lot out here.

Now if you did not get it the first time
Talk about your self skid man, you are so farr up your own ---- it will be hard to get you out

I have my workers weld mild steel with stainleass.
Also do you know how to weld chromemolly tube.
If chromemolly is not spelt right get fu-k

Moly tube I can Tig weld (never done MIG) and comes from my race car fabrication back ground.

Joining mild to stainless is a no no and the fact you are doing it tells me you are nothing but a cowboy or a fucking idiot.

if vintage, i could fall for this one... yamaha xt500



the green of the ninja looks good...

aerodynamics on a motor bike isnt all that important is it?
you barely can go full speed, and then for not long, and then its only yourself that is "in the way"...
so aerodynamics ... no sure if this is a criteria?

Originally Posted by Fondles

Moly tube I can Tig weld (never done MIG) and comes from my race car fabrication back ground.

Joining mild to stainless is a no no and the fact you are doing it tells me you are nothing but a cowboy or a fucking idiot.

Well here come the name calling from skid boy you

You have not seen chrome moly Mig welded before ,when the steel is 25 mm thick the Tig will not do it & you will have to use a Mig & per heat.

Now you are a Co-k who think a burn out in a skid.

If you would like to know I work 5 year on a car that brock the Australian land speed record

Industry standard (In Australia) says moly tube should not be mig welded.

Good for you to "buck the trend" so to speak.

I prefer to build cars and cages within the given industry standards.

How did you "brock" the Australian Land Speed Record? Given such a feat (and the fact we are both Australian petrol heads) you should have no issues and sending me a PM to take this out of the public domain as we should have a lot in common.

Ive nothing to hide with me employment, achievements and abilities, do you? flick me a PM.

Originally Posted by Fondles

Industry standard (In Australia) says moly tube should not be mig welded.

Good for you to "buck the trend" so to speak.

I prefer to build cars and cages within the given industry standards.

How did you "brock" the australian standard ? Given such a feat you should have no issues and sending me a PM to take this out of the public domain as we should have a lot in common.

Ive nothing to hide with me employment, achievements and abilities, do you? flick me a PM.

Did you read this bit

You have not seen chrome moly Mig welded before ,when the steel is 25 mm thick the Tig will not do it & you will have to use a Mig & per heat.

I would have bet my left nut this thread wasn't going to go more than five posts when I started it- I'm glad I didn't make that bet as I'm fond of my left nut.

I'm done for tonight- I will see if it hit a century in the morning.

Originally Posted by Ratchaburi

Originally Posted by Fondles

Industry standard (In Australia) says moly tube should not be mig welded.

Good for you to "buck the trend" so to speak.

I prefer to build cars and cages within the given industry standards.

How did you "brock" the australian standard ? Given such a feat you should have no issues and sending me a PM to take this out of the public domain as we should have a lot in common.

Ive nothing to hide with me employment, achievements and abilities, do you? flick me a PM.

Did you read this bit

You have not seen chrome moly Mig welded before ,when the steel is 25 mm thick the Tig will not do it & you will have to use a Mig & per heat.

Did you build that land speed machine from 25mm thick moly tubing, does such a tube exist ? ............ bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Originally Posted by FailSafe

I would have bet my left nut this thread wasn't going to go more than five posts when I started it- I'm glad I didn't make that bet as I'm fond of my left nut.

He one Aussie with his head up his ---
I'm a Aussie but I'm a old Aussie fondl is younger.
As back in the old days you would do a burn out, but fondl is a skid boy.

Originally Posted by Fondles

Originally Posted by Ratchaburi

Originally Posted by Fondles

Industry standard (In Australia) says moly tube should not be mig welded.

Good for you to "buck the trend" so to speak.

I prefer to build cars and cages within the given industry standards.

How did you "brock" the australian standard ? Given such a feat you should have no issues and sending me a PM to take this out of the public domain as we should have a lot in common.

Ive nothing to hide with me employment, achievements and abilities, do you? flick me a PM.

Did you read this bit

You have not seen chrome moly Mig welded before ,when the steel is 25 mm thick the Tig will not do it & you will have to use a Mig & per heat.

Did you build that land speed machine from 25mm thick moly tubing, does such a tube exist ? ............ bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

What are you some Moron would you use 2.5mm tube for axles get you head out of your ar-s skid boy

Originally Posted by Ratchaburi

Originally Posted by Fondles

Originally Posted by Ratchaburi

Originally Posted by Fondles

Industry standard (In Australia) says moly tube should not be mig welded.

Good for you to "buck the trend" so to speak.

I prefer to build cars and cages within the given industry standards.

How did you "brock" the australian standard ? Given such a feat you should have no issues and sending me a PM to take this out of the public domain as we should have a lot in common.

Ive nothing to hide with me employment, achievements and abilities, do you? flick me a PM.

Did you read this bit

You have not seen chrome moly Mig welded before ,when the steel is 25 mm thick the Tig will not do it & you will have to use a Mig & per heat.

Did you build that land speed machine from 25mm thick moly tubing, does such a tube exist ? ............ bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

What are you some Moron would you use 2.5mm tube for axles get you head out of your ar-s skid boy

Errm, sorry but where did I say 2.5mm for an axle, infact where did you say 25mm for an axle.

My guess is that you are American and just being the illiterate stereotypical cock sucker, because you are.

Hows bout read the thread, digest it in context given then come back at me with something that does not make you look like a little pree-teen bitch eggsandwhich wants to get his leg over.

Hey Fondl you like eggie, you go for it son if you gay, it don't both me.

Originally Posted by Fondles

Moly tube I can Tig weld (never done MIG) and comes from my race car fabrication back ground.

Joining mild to stainless is a no no and the fact you are doing it tells me you are nothing but a cowboy or a fucking idiot.

You are a coc- skid boy your mother clearn your undies for you skid boy moron