Fog lights - yes or no?

**larvidchr** · 16-05-2012, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

Damn straights S.

My neighbor has done a good one. He put two facing the driver and passenger on top of his window washing squirters. Nice to have those two blue lights shining in your face as you drive at night. Sometimes I just like to sit back and scratch my head and wonder.

Yes AO when it comes to those coloured after-market LED lights you are right, you almost assuredly know there is a Thai behind the wheel when you see one of those disco light wagons

I think they are tasteless but then that is just me.

**Boon Mee** · 16-05-2012, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by aging one

Boy those rows of little LED lights sure are in big time now. Just a silly fad.

I'm seeing them everywhere now too. Does make the vehicle more noticeable although I don't give way to these guys just because they have 'em on...

**Mid** · 16-05-2012, 05:32 PM

The daytime running light was first mandated, and safety benefits first perceived, in Scandinavian countries where it is frequently and persistently dark during daytime hours in winter time. As ambient light levels increase, the potential safety benefit decreases while the DRL intensity required for a safety improvement increases. The safety benefit produced by DRLs in relatively dark Nordic countries is roughly triple the benefit observed in relatively bright Israel and America.[1]

Daytime running lamp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**Bettyboo** · 16-05-2012, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by larvidchr

it is the future.

It's ugly and looks cheap.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I have my driving lights on all the time, because they look cool.

No they don't...

**Mr Earl** · 17-05-2012, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

No. You almost never need them, they work for shit anyway, and they irritate the hell out of oncoming drivers, some of whom may be armed.

The twats who run around with their fogs lights on all the time should be shot.

**Neo** · 17-05-2012, 02:49 AM

Fog lights are meant to highlight road markings within approx 5 metres of the car, not actually help you see through the fog, so yes they are useful in heavy fog and also unlit roads, if you have decent road markings.

**OhOh** · 17-05-2012, 03:34 AM

If you drive in a foggy environment they are

1. Useful for you to see in the fog
2. They alert other cars heading towards you that you are there.

If you value you life take them. Along with brakes, tyres and windscreen wipers they are the most critical items on a car/truck

LED lights are more visible and intense, they are also more directional. Most high end cars have them now and they will move down to the cheaper cars once the premium for having them has reduced.

**9999** · 17-05-2012, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by Neo

, if you have decent road markings.

So useless in Thailand then.

**benbaaa** · 17-05-2012, 09:14 AM

I was trying to remember the last time I saw fog here in Chiang Mai and I came up blank. But sometimes we get some lovely smog. Would you use fog lights in smog?

**AUSSIE EXPAT** · 17-05-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by benbaaa

Getting a small car soon - just for running around town.

Unless your town is blanketed in fog every morning why bother?

If you're a poser - you'll need them.

In my experience they are of limited use anyway.

**9999** · 17-05-2012, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by benbaaa

I was trying to remember the last time I saw fog here in Chiang Mai

Try going 80kms or so north past Chiang Dao on the way to Fang. Some savage fog. There is an area called the 'sea of fog'.

Also driving up to Chiang Rai on the flat between mountain ranges around Wiang Pa Pao there's always heavy fog. I've driven through this numerous times and a times you can't see a thing. The stock standard 'fog light' that came with my BT-50 do absolutely fuck all in these conditions.

**benbaaa** · 17-05-2012, 12:14 PM

I'm beginning to suspect that fog lights belong with bull bars and spoilers...

**madjbs** · 17-05-2012, 01:40 PM

Edit: Quote added

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by aging one

Boy those rows of little LED lights sure are in big time now. Just a silly fad.

I'm seeing them everywhere now too. Does make the vehicle more noticeable although I don't give way to these guys just because they have 'em on...

He's talking about high powered LED headlights, not little coloured LEDs you get for decorating stuff.

**The Fresh Prince** · 17-05-2012, 02:01 PM

I always drive with my fog lights on so that dogs, cats and even small children can tell that I'm not driving a hover car. Instead of just ducking they actually move out the way. I've got a 100% record so far so that must be what they are for.

**Bettyboo** · 17-05-2012, 02:08 PM

^ poofter...

**9999** · 17-05-2012, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by madjbs

He's talking about high powered LED headlights, not little coloured LEDs you get for decorating stuff.

I thought we were talking about the ones that come standard with most new pickups - those pissy little lights under the headlights that do fuck all and don't even have a cool factor better off with a spoiler imo.

**KiCanCummins** · 20-05-2012, 08:30 AM

Most OEM fog lights are just auxiliary lights that will flood the very front of your vehicle with additional light and in no way work as true “FOG” lights.
A proper fog light will have a beam cut off slightly below horizontal so that the driver can see the road ahead and not be blinded by the headlights reflecting back from the fog, this also is the same when driving in a snow storm/blizzard, (I lived in Canada for 38 yrs, lots of Fog snow and a few blizzards). The better fog lights have an amber lens that is easier on the eyes. When you do strike a good patch of fog (not going to happen in Thailand) and you do have fog lamps, turn off your head lights you’ll be amazed at how much you can see with propper fog lights.

As for DRL’s (Day Time Running Lamps) they are mandatory in Canada and a few Scandinavian countries. The best thing to happen to motor vehicles imho, even during daylight hours. WHY do Motor Cycles have them, SO YOU CAN SEE THEM!! LOL.

When I retired from Canada and went back to NZ ,I first had to retrain my peripheral vision to look for a moving object not a moving light. I have found that a moving light is always easier to notice that an unlit vehicle.

I have yet to see any fog here in Thailand worthy of putting fog lights on. But that said I do drive most of the time, day and night with them on so that any one will notice my vehicle sooner. I just hope that some chai will not mistake me for 2 motorcy and try to go between the lights!!!

KC

**Marmite the Dog** · 20-05-2012, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by KiCanCummins

When I retired from Canada and went back to NZ ,I first had to retrain my peripheral vision to look for a moving object not a moving light. I have found that a moving light is always easier to notice that an unlit vehicle. I have yet to see any fog here in Thailand worthy of putting fog lights on. But that said I do drive most of the time, day and night with them on so that any one will notice my vehicle sooner. I just hope that some chai will not mistake me for 2 motorcy and try to go between the lights!

Thais being the selfish retards that they are only turn their lights on when they really cannot see a bloody thing and have no reason the care if other road users can see them or not.

**Looper** · 20-05-2012, 10:12 PM

You don't need fog lights but you do need under car neons

Becoz dey is well bitchin innit

**Damman** · 20-05-2012, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by benbaaa

People who say they're useful but strictly only when it's foggy;

I suppose it is all relevant to the chances of fog in your area.

**Bung** · 21-05-2012, 01:33 AM

As the guys said, on pickups they are useful as the headlights are higher off the ground and in town, tighter situations they are great to illumonate the area just in front of you. On the highway at night I turn them off as it seems to make my eyes more tired having them on with the added brightness. With them off you seem to concentrate more ahead where the main beams are shining on.

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