How many Thais do you feed and support daily ?

[Norton]

about what I spend these days in an average year.

Excluding tractor purchases.

[terry57]

To say that all (or probably even most) have to support bloodsucking, ungrateful relatives and extended family is complete and utter nonsense.

A very interesting thread and most informative.

Regards the quote, so many guys seem to do this, I can only put it down to being in love with there wife's that they accept it as the norm.

Like an insurance that the woman stay with them ?

Foked if I know.

[terry57]

So it seems to be that if you where single or just had a girlfriend with no hangers on 50,000 baht would be heaps.

That's good, nice work dudes.

[Stumpy]

So it seems to be that if you where single or just had a girlfriend with no hangers on 50,000 baht would be heaps.

That's good, nice work dudes.

Shiiiiit Terry. 35K baht is big spending. With that I am living phat (sorry Humbert, you will have to go to the urban dictionary for that definition)

[Marmite the Dog]

But yes, unfortunately plenty here do marry in to the sewer-class. It would be the same as marrying into a gypsy/tinker/pikey family, or some 5th generation council estate family in the west. Trailer trash. Any foreigner marrying into the sewer-class while earning 10 times more than them will likely have to support the sewer-clan no matter what country it is.

We can't all be with hi-so bitches who deserve nothing more than a slap twice a day.

[baby maker]

So it seems to be that if you where single or just had a girlfriend with no hangers on 50,000 baht would be heaps.

That's good, nice work dudes.

50k makes it very comfortable...tas...

when i first came here in 2002....i was spending about 10k a day....piss and women....never in BF class...

my sole purpose now is my three kids ...had two stolen in Auss...
but a least here you can kill the bitches....without any real comeback...

[Butterfly]

I would rather spend 200k a month in Singapore than here,

What? Shagging older, past it Thai/ Philippina slappers from Orchard Tower?

actually, they are quite a few nice players in the Clubs, young and pretty Singaporeans

it's ok, I can always go to Bangkok on week-end for the actions

[Chairman Mao]

But yes, unfortunately plenty here do marry in to the sewer-class. It would be the same as marrying into a gypsy/tinker/pikey family, or some 5th generation council estate family in the west. Trailer trash. Any foreigner marrying into the sewer-class while earning 10 times more than them will likely have to support the sewer-clan no matter what country it is.

We can't all be with hi-so bitches who deserve nothing more than a slap twice a day.

Who'd want one of them.

Fortunately some of us can find a level between sewer-class and hi-so.

It does actually exist. Perhaps not for many who's only exposure to Thais is the sewer-class surrounding them, and the lakorn they're made to endure every evening, though.

[English Noodles]

^Some people are under the impression that any Thai girl who was not a hooker/cleaner/factory worker/seamstress and does not already have kids to some useless Thai guy, is a 'high-so bitch'. Kinda funny really.

[khmen]

xxxxx

[Marmite the Dog]

Fortunately some of us can find a level between sewer-class and hi-so.

I did. Found her to be just as bad as the hi-so stylee, so I went back to sewer class.

[Stumpy]

But yes, unfortunately plenty here do marry in to the sewer-class. It would be the same as marrying into a gypsy/tinker/pikey family, or some 5th generation council estate family in the west. Trailer trash. Any foreigner marrying into the sewer-class while earning 10 times more than them will likely have to support the sewer-clan no matter what country it is.

We can't all be with hi-so bitches who deserve nothing more than a slap twice a day.

Who'd want one of them.

Fortunately some of us can find a level between sewer-class and hi-so.

It does actually exist. Perhaps not for many who's only exposure to Thais is the sewer-class surrounding them, and the lakorn they're made to endure every evening, though.

Off tangent a bit here but I have to agree with CMao. There are wonderful "Middle class" women here that do not require all the nonsense that both lower class( "Sewer class" sounded to harsh) and Hi-So as it is called here (We call them Materialistic Beezys in the US) might require.

I however still cannot fully grasp 'Buying" the extended family deal. Sorry, it seems like a guilt money to me. I seriously doubt it is being done because there is this great level of empathy for their situation. I also seriously doubt anyone here is a philanthropist. I can see helping in the event of a major catastrophe( I would do that without question myself) as you are part of the family if married, but to just plunk out a wad of cash for the missus to use at will is just silly. They must have saw you "coming a mile away" as the car salesmen would have said.

I think $30 to $50K Baht a month is quite comfortable. If you have a GF/Wife who works and you share in the costs then life is pretty darn comfortable, minimal drama, lots of freedom. I would hate to have retired and moved over here to be seen as a wallet.

[Marmite the Dog]

I however still cannot fully grasp 'Buying" the extended family deal.

Nor can I. The sister in law has had a few small loans and all were paid back on the due date with no drama. Also, the eldest lad is staying with the grandparents over the school holidays, so we'll bung them a few quid for food.

The money I pay out goes to me, the Midget and our 2 kids, just as happens in normal family environments all over the world.

[larvidchr]

Thailand have no adequate comprehensive Government pension system, not really to hard to grasp is it! so part of the culture/necessity for some Thais (not all of-cause) is that the adult children support retired parents, very young siblings still under education etc. That responsibility mainly lies with the oldest child so often younger sisters/brothers do not contribute unless they are pressured to do so by the older sibling.

It is of-cause up to any Farang whether he shacks up with a woman having some of those responsibility's as part of her life, some get taken by excessive demands on that front mainly due to their own stupidity, but the ones claiming that it is never on to support family members in Thailand, and it is always nothing more than a scam, is equally monumentally stupid.

Often the Parents requiring support late in life have themselves made considerable sacrifices paying the way through expensive higher education for their children, parenting away from home working children's children etc. hoping for a better life for their children and with the unspoken understanding that this was part of an old age insurance.

There are several Thailand's and all is not measured in Pattaya slappers scamming of c...struck foreign idiots, nor in "High So" trophy wifes maintenance expenditures, they are the same everywhere by the way.

There happens to be normal Thai girls/boys with a normal family, which in some areas differentiate to Western family structure and responsibility's some (sometimes but not always) of an economic nature, we still have to care for our West Parents but not all of us have to do so economically since our Western system many places provides generously with both Government and private pension schemes paid for through taxes and employer contributions or privately.

But if you chose to go and live your life in a foreign land with a foreign spouse you have to expect and understand that you cant have things exactly as back home, and with the advantages of a foreign wife in an exotic foreign land, some to you alien obligations might tag along for the ride.

My Northern Thai GF is the only living child, she supports a widowed Mother and two still school-seeking nieces (abandoned by their father) after her deceased Sister. She do this with 4000 baht a month that supplements a small income from farmland, used to be 3500 a couple of years ago. That is entirely sensible and I have never been asked for extras but would gladly supply it if we both deemed it necessary.

Make no mistake, this is an obligation my GF has in her life on level with breathing air to survive, not living up to those expectations and that duty to her family simply do not exist in her world, and me not understanding this and accepting it would make me a complete moron.

[bestvue]

None. Shitloads of Filipinos though.

Had to laugh at that. Me toooooo.
Would be a good subject to start in the Phils section and compare the results.

[Stumpy]

I however still cannot fully grasp 'Buying" the extended family deal.

Nor can I. The sister in law has had a few small loans and all were paid back on the due date with no drama. Also, the eldest lad is staying with the grandparents over the school holidays, so we'll bung them a few quid for food.

The money I pay out goes to me, the Midget and our 2 kids, just as happens in normal family environments all over the world.

Agreed. That is life.

[Blake7]

jeez. 50k per month is school fees for just one kid.....
I guess you need to be a retired old cretin living up in Isaan to get by on that paltry sum.

[Stumpy]

Thailand have no adequate comprehensive Government pension system, not really to hard to grasp is it! so part of the culture/necessity for some Thais (not all of-cause) is that the adult children support retired parents, very young siblings still under education etc. That responsibility mainly lies with the oldest child so often younger sisters/brothers do not contribute unless they are pressured to do so by the older sibling.

It is of-cause up to any Farang whether he shacks up with a woman having some of those responsibility's as part of her life, some get taken by excessive demands on that front mainly due to their own stupidity, but the ones claiming that it is never on to support family members in Thailand, and it is always nothing more than a scam, is equally monumentally stupid.

Often the Parents requiring support late in life have themselves made considerable sacrifices paying the way through expensive higher education for their children, parenting away from home working children's children etc. hoping for a better life for their children and with the unspoken understanding that this was part of an old age insurance.

There are several Thailand's and all is not measured in Pattaya slappers scamming of c...struck foreign idiots, nor in "High So" trophy wifes maintenance expenditures, they are the same everywhere by the way.

There happens to be normal Thai girls/boys with a normal family, which in some areas differentiate to Western family structure and responsibility's some (sometimes but not always) of an economic nature, we still have to care for our West Parents but not all of us have to do so economically since our Western system many places provides generously with both Government and private pension schemes paid for through taxes and employer contributions or privately.

But if you chose to go and live your life in a foreign land with a foreign spouse you have to expect and understand that you cant have things exactly as back home, and with the advantages of a foreign wife in an exotic foreign land, some to you alien obligations might tag along for the ride.

My Northern Thai GF is the only living child, she supports a widowed Mother and two still school-seeking nieces (abandoned by their father) after her deceased Sister. We do this with 4000 baht a month that supplements a small income from farmland, used to be 3500 a couple of years ago. That is entirely sensible and I have never been asked for extras but would gladly supply it if we both deemed it necessary.

Make no mistake, this is an obligation my GF has in her life on level with breathing air to survive, not living up to those expectations and that duty to her family simply do not exist in her world, and me not understanding this and accepting it would make me a complete moron.

Again I apologize to taking Thread off tangent...

I get all that. I do. Your points are duly noted. I would never frown upon it or ask a women to change to align herself with my upbringing. Thats unacceptable.. It is how the Thai culture is. I understand it well.

What I am saying is you read and hear frequently.....in fact a lot, where here comes Mr. Foreigner. He meets this gal(typically up North, but do hear about it everywhere) He marry's a young women then in no time he becomes the Bank. He is now taking care of new wife and any siblings coupled with Grandma, Grandpa, Aunts, Uncles the farm etc etc and somehow that is expected? I am sorry when did it become the foreigners responsibility to instantly take care of the ENTIRE family? Because He loves their daughter?

IMHO I think a lot of these situations stem out the basic fact that like it or not, western men are seen to have endless supplies of money and because of that they are expected to pay or be looked at poorly or worse yet the young wife is now in trouble because he is not footing the bill. Some of the reason the daughter is released to the man is the very fact that he WILL pay. As per the culture she will take care of her parents and others but that is her responsibility not Mr. Foreigner. What would she have done had Mr Foreigner not met her?

I do not mean to sound harsh nor insensitive. I know it appears as if I am being a tyrant but I am really not. Hard to convey emotions in text. I just think you have to be VERY clear up front. If I should marry here I will take care of my wife and what we grow to be together. My GF sends money to her niece and on occasion her sister. I applaud it and support it.

[Bob63]

He marry's a young women then in no time he becomes the Bank. He is now taking care of new wife and any siblings coupled with Grandma, Grandpa, Aunts, Uncles the farm etc etc and somehow that is expected? I am sorry when did it become the foreigners responsibility to instantly take care of the ENTIRE family?

Extremes are always wrong.
The other end too; i.e. not provide any reasonable support.
It depends on your own good judgement.

Back to thread.
50k/month seem like a lot, considering service and non-western things are much cheaper in LOS than the west.
But anyway good to read all the opinions. It would be nice to read if somebody can do with less per month. One may still have a happy life even if one doesn't attend the golf club

[boes]

1 Wife
2 kids 2 and 3 years old
1 Nanny
4 Staff

Monthly : roughly 140 k - salaries, live in, food, mb, 2 cars included

[Finney64]

It would be nice to read if somebody can do with less per month

Me & the missus , both work full-time , no kids , 4 dogs , rented house , no car , 3 bikes , I drink like a fish , we eat out 2/3 times a week - ave monthly spend 20-25K Baht per

[nidhogg]

[quote=Bob63;1728730]

Back to thread.
50k/month seem like a lot, considering service and non-western things are much cheaper in LOS than the west.
But anyway good to read all the opinions. It would be nice to read if somebody can do with less per month. One may still have a happy life even if one doesn't attend the golf club

No golf club memberships, but probably spend nearer to 60 to 70K a month for wife and kid. Major outlay is the boy - a reasonable (not top end) school - extra lessons at school, piano, painting and extra, outside school english lessons (he was struggling). Other expenses include health insurance, rent, elec, cable tv and a fondness of home cooked western food, occassionally with a bottle of wine.

[peterpan]

, outside school english lessons (he was struggling)..

I'm not having a shot at you, but I wonder why an English speaker would require his child to take outside English lessons.

[nidhogg]

, outside school english lessons (he was struggling)..

I'm not having a shot at you, but I wonder why an English speaker would require his child to take outside English lessons.

Fair question. I found out a while ago that being able to speak English did not give me the knowledge to teach English.

He needed more structured instruction than I was able to give him. His vocab is levels above his classmates, but spelling, reading and writing were giving him trouble.

[Conrad]

I give the mrs. thb 30.000 pr. month for that she take care of the household incl. her 2 sons and mother.

I use about the same for insurances, fuel, phonebills, eating out sometime, vacations and what bigger new things we need.

House, car and MC's are paid for