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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
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    looking at your original photo , it looks like string

    the fishing line you have now will fare much better

    and you are probably better off with just bait and not a lure - when you are a bit more skilled , try lures

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    looking at your original photo , it looks like string
    I think it is a braided fishing line. Not something I have ever used, but from reading it should actually be better than a monofilament under some conditions (heavy weed etc).

    However, it really should not have gotten as abraded as that shows!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Of course, toss the small ones back in. But as I said before the older/larger Thai freshwater fish should be released (don't keep them out of the water long and make sure the are able to Swim away). There is a reason and it’s not what you referred to (but it has everything to do with the wellbeing of your daughters). I don’t want to get into here. Just believe.
    I understand and respect where you are coming from and to an extent, I do agree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    looking at your original photo , it looks like string

    the fishing line you have now will fare much better

    and you are probably better off with just bait and not a lure - when you are a bit more skilled , try lures
    Thanks for the advice Baldrick. I think it was my action, which was wrong, that was doing the braiding. He also said that I should have been using some tackle not lure straight to line!

    It has thanks, I see no braiding on the line and I have altered my cast for now to be a more gentle swing and letting the weight of the lure take the line. Before I think I was almost flicking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    I think it is a braided fishing line. Not something I have ever used, but from reading it should actually be better than a monofilament under some conditions (heavy weed etc).

    However, it really should not have gotten as abraded as that shows!
    Yeah I was thinking it was a bit much only after some 10 casts. However, I was flicking my cast quite heavily (Something I have now stopped) and I had no tackle between the lure and the line which Aek also said might have caused the braiding.

    All very interesting stuff and the best way to learn is from failing!

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    So I got you a picture of my spot. I am just practicing in this pool between this fallen bamboo tree and the bank. It has quite a current as you can see by the video, so my lure is taking off down the river easily. I was wondering, do fish hide in these sorts of natural obstructions during the day? if not where do they hide?

    The river is quite high in the morning and I am just before the outer bend of the river. I will try and go over to the other side this evening because you can easily wade into the middle of the river where there is a tree stuck. I have seen a few locals just sit here and cast.

    I had a good morning of practicing my casting and keeping the line on the spool. Unfortunately it did get away from me again BUT quite amazingly, I was able to untangle the line, get everything in order again and all in the baking sun without throwing a hissy. I am quite proud of this achievement and am already understanding that the trick to untangling a line is to twist and never pull until your certain.

    Productive morning.

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    Great Thread BC.

    Fishing is an art, I have been an avid fisherman since 10 years old both sport and commercial. A lot of it is trial and error, however knowing the body of water you are fishing and the fish in the river you are after makes a huge difference. Some fish love spinning lures, others don't. Some love flies but will not eat bait. time of day impacts it all as well. There are many ways to fish a river. You can bait bottom fish, drift bait fish, spin a lure or fly fish (Not recommended here). It quite honestly depends on how much work you want to do and the success you are after. Here in Thailand I have found river fishing to be pretty poor. They just do not have any spawning species from the ocean so all you find are local fish or escapees from people who use the river to raise fish. Additionally many rivers have been netted and completely fished out. However lake fishing can be very fruitful and fun and you can bait, plug or spin for various fish. I have caught many fish on a few lakes here. Just rent a long boat for the day and go have some fun.

    As for gear, I recommend you use ultralight gear versus heavy monofilament line. The reason being the fish are not that big and if your line is visible in the water its very unlikely you will catch anything. In the picture above you posted, the river is moving rather fast so I would try drifting bait using no weight at all. The weight of the bait should be enough. Cast out and let it go for 30 or 40 yds then reel it in and cast again. Spinning a lure from side to side might be worth a try. either method keep it off the bottom or you will likely snag the bottom or debris losing a lot of gear. But you will have to experiment and move up and down the shoreline where you can. I have some super ultralight fishing gear here and use 4lb test. I have done very well with it.

    On rods you will need to determine, Light, Medium or firm action. This will also determine how easily you can sense if you are getting bites or not. Also you may want to have a few different rods with you. Changing gear is common. You have to adapt to the environment, weather and time of day.

    Good Luck and have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    I had a good morning of practicing my casting and keeping the line on the spool. Unfortunately it did get away from me again BUT quite amazingly, I was able to untangle the line, get everything in order again and all in the baking sun without throwing a hissy. I am quite proud of this achievement and am already understanding that the trick to untangling a line is to twist and never pull until your certain.
    Bonecollector, if you're having a problem keeping line on the spool you may have overfilled it? Try and keep at least 1/8 of an inch lip on the reel spool. Nylon monofilament also has memory of the coils and it's good practice to give it a good stretch now and again... of course the best way of doing this is by catching a decent fish.



    This is the simple float set-up I use in the pond but float fishing in fast running water is quite a skill and maybe you need something simpler for now.



    I use a light spinning rod at home and also for spinning in the sea in Thailand. I think my line is 6lb breaking strain although I don't need that at home. Looking at the river you're fishing in I'd try something simple like Stumpy mentioned... freelining a decent sized worm, but I'd also add a couple of AAA split shot maybe 18 inches up the line from the hook. This will take the bait down and also slow it down a bit so it doesn't travel too fast in the current. If you can get a big worm rolling around on the bottom I think you'll have a good chance. Oh, and maybe get away from those sunken branches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    has memory of the coils and it's good practice to give it a good stretch now and again
    Good Point. I usually have to toss my line here every year as the coils just set and casting is horrific as each of those coils catches eyes on the way out making for crappy casts

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    Oh, and maybe get away from those sunken branches?
    Yeah I wondered about that as well.

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    Thank you Stumpy for pitching in with your knowledge. I will make my way through it bit by bit but definitely some excellent advice there, thank you once again. I thought I was just going to have a drunk pissabout on the river to pass the time whilst the girls are working/ school but now I feel it is definitely something I am going to take up. I have just been practicing knots all day with spare bits of line. Thanks again.

    Thank you Mendy for your info and yes I think I had slightly more line than needed. I have read that nylon line in particular is susceptible to tangling but I think they have got better at controlling the line when I cast and locking asap. I will grab some nylon monofilament when I get home and will buy an assortment of tackle to keep me going, just work my way through everything I guess. Just going to concentrate on the mechanics, knot tying and familiarising myself with techniques and jargon.

    Yes guys the fallen bamboo tree is definitely an obstacle I am staying away from but the pond it creates is a good practice area. I will try and wade out from the other side of the river as soon as I have feel comfortable with all the mechanics.

    How does the volume of my line look?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    How does the volume of my line look?
    Looks much better. Again, if you are not casting a lot of weight it should spool off very uniform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    Looks much better. Again, if you are not casting a lot of weight it should spool off very uniform.
    Yea I think Aek got a little happy with line volume. Since I took some off because I got in a right tangle, it has been fine. It is good practice though and I enjoy perfecting the knots.

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    Try this. Use a popper. A surface lure. Cast near weedy area and reel in. Trust me you will catch some nice tasteing snakeheads and have great fun. The gear you have is perfect but better in still water. Few years back when my son lived at home went out and did what the guy in vid is doing. Trick is accuracy of your cast.

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    Thanks Norton, I was actually practicing this today, reeling in the line with the lure skipping just below the surface of the water. I will try again this evening as we have a patch of weed just in front of my spot.

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    Snakehead fish are a very aggressive territorial species, like Large mouth bass. The idea is that your plug is perceived as a threat or annoyance in most cases. With any plug, you need to look at the pitch angle of the spoon to asses how deep it will travel under water. Snakehead fish are a warm water, shallow predator. Technique is critical. The best time I have found to fish for Snakehead fish is during spawning season. The parents will circle and protect the shoal so you cast over the Shoal and drag the plug towards and through it. I have caught 5 or so nice size snakehead fish on Kaeng Krachan lake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    Snakehead fish are a very aggressive territorial species, like Large mouth bass. The idea is that your plug is perceived as a threat or annoyance in most cases. With any plug, you need to look at the pitch angle of the spoon to asses how deep it will travel under water. Snakehead fish are a warm water, shallow predator. Technique is critical. The best time I have found to fish for Snakehead fish is during spawning season. The parents will circle and protect the shoal so you cast over the Shoal and drag the plug towards and through it. I have caught 5 or so nice size snakehead fish on Kaeng Krachan lake.
    I will definitely keep Kaeng Krachan lake in mind as we are planning/ negotiating hiking all the way to Thor Thip Waterfall. Been to the lake before but just stopped at the road over the dam to get some pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonecollector View Post
    I will definitely keep Kaeng Krachan lake in mind as we are planning/ negotiating hiking all the way to Thor Thip Waterfall. Been to the lake before but just stopped at the road over the dam to get some pics.
    While I have not been back to fish it 5+ years you can find long boats for the day and they will take you anywhere you want. Of course with Covid that could all be changed. There are many good coves to fish. Snakehead spawn in mid rainy season (Aug/Sept). You can see the fry bubbling on the surface in about a 1 meter circle when feeding. The parents are underneath near by watching. I have seen pictures that they come near the surface and will attack birds tat try and snatch up the fry. I am a catch and release fisherman much to the disbelief of the long boat captain as I played a few I hooked up for about 15minutes and then let it go under water on the side of the boat. He looked at me like "WTF"...... I laughed. Just another crazy foreigner.

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    ^ Probably a lot of fisherman either split the catch or simply give it to him. That was his planned dinner you were putting back in the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy View Post
    I am a catch and release fisherman
    I probably think I will be the same. I am mostly just jesting when speaking of catching the girls dinner. Maybe on occasion it would be nice but it is definitely not in my plans to keep everything I catch.

    All very interesting stuff Stumpy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    ^ Probably a lot of fisherman either split the catch or simply give it to him. That was his planned dinner you were putting back in the water.
    Probably but I always catch and release to let them live to spawn again. I seldom every keep a fish unless it got hurt during the fight. I figured he was paid for his services. I always tell them, they can fish anytime. Most pilot around and either nap and sit on their phone.

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    [QUOTE=Bonecollector;4363430]I thought I was just going to have a drunk pissabout on the river to pass the time whilst the girls are working/ school but now I feel it is definitely something I am going to take up. [QUOTE]

    This is not an OR situation. You have your drunk pissabout AND fish. It is a must!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Try this. Use a popper. A surface lure.
    Yep, that's the fishing I do with a frog lure and it is great fun even if you don't catch anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Yep, that's the fishing I do with a frog lure and it is great fun even if you don't catch anything.
    Exactly. The fishing is always great! The catching varies however.

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    Outrageous! The old 'lead sinkers in the dead fish' trick



    American fishing champions accused of cheating in wild scandal

    2 October 2022

    Who would have guessed one of this week's biggest sporting controversies came from the wonderful world of fishing?

    On Friday, Chase Cominsky of Hermitage and Jake Runyan of Cleveland were accused of cheating during the Lake Erie Walleye Trail (LEWT) Championship event in Ohio — and the video evidence is damning.

    After being declared the apparent victors, a tournament official cut open one of their walleye to find weights and extra fillets inside the animal's body.

    Inevitably, the discovering prompted outrage among the sporting community, with footage of the incident has registered more than 4.4 million views on Twitter in less than eight hours.

    Ahead of the season-culminating championship event, Cominsky and Runyon were leading the season standings for team of the year.

    They won several high-paying LEWT events in 2021, with internet sleuths unearthing images of the pair holding large cheques.
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    NAme that fish - freshwater snapper?
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