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    Hmm... guess he’s lucky then. Hasn’t died in a motor vehicle accident, or gone among the ranks of the missing, hasn’t been convicted of a crime, or deported, or beat senseless in some remote back alleyway.

    Maybe he should seek a second lawyers opinion or perhaps it is best to be left well enough alone.


    The point of this thread was to bring up a legal case where a falang did not get screwed by a Thai Court of law. Again, it is contrary to the ongoing consensus of "a foreigner doesn't stand a chance in the Thai legal system".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    The point of this thread was to bring up a legal case where a falang did not get screwed by a Thai Court of law. Again, it is contrary to the ongoing consensus of "a foreigner doesn't stand a chance in the Thai legal system".
    ...remains to be seen...makes for an interesting report, but we may never know the final disposition irl...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...remains to be seen...makes for an interesting report, but we may never know the final disposition irl...
    Yes, this straightforward truth doesn't seem to be getting through.

    It'll be interesting to see if this story gets updated in the coming months.

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    Awarding the car to the Dane, I think the judge should've been specific adding 'in good condition'. As it stands, he should expect some sawdust, grinding paste, sand and or iron filings in the oil sump, shit in the petrol tank and oil in the screen reservoir.

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    In this case the Judge pretty much explained to the woman that if she didn't agree to the judges brokered compromise, she would lose the house. Her, the woman, options are limited. Don't like my deal - lose the car and the house and get, if you are lucky, all of THB 450k.

    excerpt from the article

    "The judge also explained, that since the house was built on land that belonged to the Thai woman’s mother, the only alternative to a compromise would be to tear down the house and sell the used building material and sell the car and split the money – since the Danish man was entitled to 50 percent of the shared assets of the relationship. That would give him half of approximately 900.000 baht.

    The judge made no room for doubt that if the Thai woman should decide not to accept her suggestion, then she would rule in favour of the Danish man. Leaving the car to him and keep the house was a better alternative for both, she proposed.

    It took the accused – the former partner – surprisingly long tome to make up her mind if she preferred to continue to fight for her claim, that it was all a gift, or accept the deal offered. Eventually, she declared in tears that if the Dane would not come back and live with her, which she had hoped for, then it was OK that he got the car."


    Silver lining to every story: At least the poor lass got a house out of it...

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    Keeping in mind that one random incident and example does not equate to a reflective balance to be held up to be a standard.

    Every situation will differ from the next......especially as such applies with Farang.

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    I have seriously got to write a book about my experiences with the lawyers, judges and witnesses in my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    I have seriously got to write a book about my experiences with the lawyers, judges and witnesses in my case.
    ...who do you think would read it? Those of us who have been following your posts all these years already know many of the details...as an exercise to work out any remaining demons, however, writing might be worth the effort...

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    Not sure the writer would come out of it looking too bright, either.

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    Topper

    Maybe a better idea,would be to write a guide, advising people how to avoid getting taken to court, for being an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    I have seriously got to write a book about my experiences with the lawyers, judges and witnesses in my case.
    Well, I doubt it would make you a millionaire, but, as a factual non-fiction and decent marketing it should garner a good bit of interest and could be profitable.

    You know far better than most the risk factor. Whether the possible rewards justify the risks, well, up to you. Writing a book is no small task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    how to avoid getting taken to court
    Hindsight is always 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Not sure the writer would come out of it looking too bright, either.

    And that would be the "hook" to the tale....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    And that would be the "hook" to the tale....

    Live and learn, Top....

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    And even that isn't proven true in this case until the guy actually gets the cash, of course.

    There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip in Thailand.
    The case closes when the court's decision is met. While never ending appeals, disappearances and other antics happen at the upper end, for the most part it's a matter of which side is more generous, but from the few farang vs Thai cases at the lower end which I know about, when the court makes an order it's as good as done.

    The Dane can buy insurance from me, that he gets the car as ordered, but with no guarantee on its condition.

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    Well, the woman would be foolish to damage the vehicle.

    The case went to court, a Judge brokered a compromise, if the woman damages the vehicle she will be held liable for the damages. The judge has already gone on record in finding for the plaintiff. However, the resolution of tearing down the house, selling the used building materials and the vehicle then splitting the cash value of THB 900k results in the woman losing both the house and the car for a return of @ THB 450k in cash.

    So, the woman is looking at a situation where the price of being vindictive is @ THB 2.5M.

    Only a fool would jeopardize the compromise, which basically gives the woman a THB 3M house for a two year "common-law" relationship. Would you risk a THB 3M house for the potential gain of a THB 1.7M vehicle? Considering a court of law has already reviewed the case and found for the plaintiff?

    If the vehicle is/was received in a damaged condition, as everything concerning this case is on record, the Danes' response is to have his lawyer file a criminal damage complaint with the police and a court case for the damages. The judge who brokered the compromise would probably order the house torn down and the materials sold. The proceeds used to repair or replace the damaged vehicle.


    So, now lets hear from all the armchair Thailand legal experts and their barstool stories of what really happens in Thailand as told to them by their reliable and vetted barroom buddies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    So, now lets hear from all the armchair Thailand legal experts and their barstool stories of what really happens in Thailand as told to them by their reliable and vetted barroom buddies...
    You really are insistent on this particular narrative, aint you?

    Go ahead, let one case extrapolate your understanding of the whole legal system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie
    So, now lets hear from all the armchair Thailand legal experts and their barstool stories of what really happens in Thailand as told to them by their reliable and vetted barroom buddies...
    Whilst you hang your hat on this one case?

    What's the point.

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    Perhaps he is planning on getting divorced soon and wants to believe it will work out well for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowie View Post
    Originally Posted by bowie
    So, now lets hear from all the armchair Thailand legal experts and their barstool stories of what really happens in Thailand as told to them by their reliable and vetted barroom buddies...
    I dont agree with you and I have never really listened to "reliable and vetted barroom buddies". I am basing what I think on living and interacting with normal Thai's here for 31 years.

    The guy got lucky and may have paid the judge to get that ruling. So many others who live in Buri Ram have been taken to the cleaners in a divorce over the years.

    My suggestion to you would be to get off.

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    Another busy day at work, eh Ant? surfing, surfing, surfing

    willy, why don't you go do something useful, cut a coupon or stare at the ceiling?

    AO, "So many others who live in Buri Ram have been taken to the cleaners in a divorce over the years." got a link? or just spewing some of that barroom banter you don't listen to?

    Weathers fine up here, just looking down my nose at the finest TD has to offer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie
    Another busy day at work, eh Ant? surfing, surfing, surfing
    How much are you paid to concern yourself with what I'm doing? \_(ツ)_/

    You really are just temperamentally ill-suited to forums aren't you. What you need is a blog-slash-echo-chamber.

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    aww Gup, did I strike a nerve? Again? Hurry up, quick switch screens, someones coming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie
    did I strike a nerve?
    Quote Originally Posted by bowie
    Another busy day at work, eh Ant? surfing, surfing, surfing

    willy, why don't you go do something useful, cut a coupon or stare at the ceiling?

    AO, "So many others who live in Buri Ram have been taken to the cleaners in a divorce over the years." got a link? or just spewing some of that barroom banter you don't listen to?

    Weathers fine up here, just looking down my nose at the finest TD has to offer...

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    Yes.

    Clearly that's what has happened here.


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