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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    ^ 4k is a lot of money.
    New Jersey Veterinarians are expert at milking. My buddy had a fit - but, at each test the Vet suggested this distraught wife just nodded her head yes, yes, yes... "Fix my Baby"...

    Never mentioned the associated cost - did provide a nice itemized bill (after the fact) justifying the Expense and, of course, blaming it on the laboratory price schedule. He probably owned the lab.

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    ^^ My sister's little shih tzu - Yorkshire terrier - Maltese cross bitch (imagine Chok Dee but more manly) was rushed to the vets over Christmas after eating a big bar of dark chocolate. She was made to vomit and given an injection of some sort and was fine the next day.

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    ^ ChokDee is not your average ShihTzu, he is very manly, he owns the terriers locally!

    He has little fear of big dogs and goes up to them all for a play, I suspect this may be a problem one day when one fancies a snack.



    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    ^^^ As someone who lives in 'the arse end of Thailand' I keep a packet of activated charcoal in the house for such an eventuality. Thankfully we haven't needed it yet, but it's a black powder that you need to get down a poisoned dog's throat asap, by mixing into a drink with water, or maybe raw egg? This powder bonds to the poison and prevents the stomach absorbing it. It's amazing stuff.

    The only dog we've lost to poisoning was one of our 'outside' dogs who had walked across a tarrow field and left nasty footprints... she paid for it with her life. I found her too late, dead with white froth coming out of her orifices. Poor thing... still makes me angry five years on.
    Funnily enough, I always keep some of that activated charcoal in my medical kit; completely forgot about it... Fuk me I'm dumb... I must've bought it 15 years ago, do you reckon it goes off or just stays like charcoal forever?

    &, yeah, we have had neighbours killing dogs too, it's horrible, f'kin bastards need a teaching, but that escalation can get silly very quickly in L.O.S.


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    Have you checked if your Xmas Care Package of marzipan and Jaffa cakes is still in tact?

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    He bloodywell loves jaffa cakes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    New Jersey Veterinarians are expert at milking. My buddy had a fit - but, at each test the Vet suggested this distraught wife just nodded her head yes, yes, yes... "Fix my Baby"...

    Never mentioned the associated cost - did provide a nice itemized bill (after the fact) justifying the Expense and, of course, blaming it on the laboratory price schedule. He probably owned the lab.
    I know what you mean - it'so dishonest that it's very close to criminal behaviour.
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    All i get from this thread is that i am glad Betts didn't apply his vetinary skills to a child and Chokdee has better dress sense than Betts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    All i get from this thread is that i am glad Betts didn't apply his vetinary skills to a child and Chokdee has better dress sense than Betts.
    Harsh but fair...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    licking the floor like crazy
    Dogs do that when indoors and eat grass when outdoors in order to initiate a puke.
    You prolly gave ChokDee some of that horrible food you are cooking..
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    Your Dog doesn't need a Vet, it needs a damn dentist BB......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Do you have a pic of him next to todays newspaper?
    Oh boy...

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    ^^^^ etc...I think one of the reasons vet bills have become so astronomical in the West is the advent of pet insurance.

    If the vet knows inurance is in place, many will milk it to the max. And living in Thailand we all know about that shite.

    A good friend of mine in the UK recently paid 7k sterling to sort out his daschund's back problem. The insurance max'd out at 5k, but once you've gone that far you have to continue.

    Much as I love me dogs, I think he's mad btw. I could've sorted a whole pack of dogs in Korat for that money.

    Sometimes I'm glad the West's level of pet care isn't available in Thailand... I'd be bankcrupt if it was...
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    ^ well, many avenues. The Vet my buddy used was next door local in the land of taxation in one of the highest taxed municipalities in the country. I doubt any comparative shopping occurred.

    But, there is much money to be made on pets. One of my subspecialties was repair of medical imaging machines. I had a headhunter approach me with an offer of USD $85k per annum to fix cat scans dedicated for pets, I declined. A start-up company had raised multiple millions on the premise that there was enough demand to actually make a business selling medical diagnostic imaging services to "rich" clients. Didn't pan out though, they went bust about five years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Dogs do that when indoors and eat grass when outdoors in order to initiate a puke.
    You prolly gave ChokDee some of that horrible food you are cooking..
    Yeah, that's what I thought, on bith counts.

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    Your Dog doesn't need a Vet, it needs a damn dentist BB......
    Yeah, it's character...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    New Jersey Veterinarians are expert at milking.
    Not just NJ, California has got to be the worst. My Mom "Bless her heart" convinced my Dad to spend $2100 bucks to have a hip ligament worked on their dog as it could not walk on it anymore.. It was 13 years old and was basically on its way out. Wasn't eating, had numerous issues, and was taking pills everyday. It croaked 8 days after the surgery. I mean come on. The Vet knew. He should have been honest and said that we should really put the dog down, instead he happily took their money. Who knows, he may not have done anything.


    That said, I think many people have become neurotic about their dogs to the point its just plain weird. They are not humans. I see them in strollers, little toy dogs in Dog purses. Dog sweaters and Pajamas, even dog mittens, people bring them in stores and shopping malls....WTF!?!? Do not get me wrong I have always had dogs. I have 2 now. I do enjoy them as being part of the family, they are fun and make me laugh, offer protection for my wife when I am away but there is a time when enough is enough. If either of them got ill or critically hurt I would put them down. As a kid we had a few get hit by cars. Broken hip, punctured lung. The vets back then euthanized them rather then trying to take peoples money to save them.

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    ^ Yup, 100% Vets are for shots, castration, spaying and euthanasia...

    However, people do become attached to their pets. Too much to the point of emptying their wallets for "questionable" surgeries - face it, I would spend considerable money to save a pets life provided the pet would live a relatively long life with quality of life post surgery. The case I stated above was, in reality, spending $4k for a case of diarrhea, the majority of the money on illogical tests - just using the heartstrings to keep the wallet open.

    Chapters borrowed from the human medical profession of keeping an aged person alive until the last moment to drain the insurance benefit and bank accounts. Nothing like spending large sums of money to keep a "corpse" alive.

    Had friends of the family spend USD $40k to keep their Mom alive for two additional miserable months on an experimental drug treatment for terminal kidney cancer. Insurance wouldn't spring for the "experimental" drug. They did, after all, it was their "Mom". And as she was in serious pain she was almost comatose on pain killers.

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    me and mrs.HH had enough heart breaking 3ys.[2012-2018] i have the complete history of our SAMS treatment by so called vets [parasites]on 2legs] to write a complets encyclopedia.with the last mouth piece from the vet.YOU CANT STOP NOW YOUVE COME THIS FAR.
    some of the scams or should I say money making lies from some vets who only know how to empty a farangs wallet,i can only think that other owners have heard this before.
    just one story,a visit to a new vet,when I walked into the clinic staff almost fell on their face as they rushed to open the door for the farang.looked clean enough,staff took hold of our dog to weigh him,on a set of bathroom scales while behing held,next was a blood test and looking at his history the vet say's I have to go bkk.today so I will his blood to a top lab.gave us a couple of bags of the usual meds then off we go LESS A FEW THOUSAND BHT.we had no contact for 2days regarding the blood test and the snap test.a phone call to us from them told us he needs his kidneys flushing out at over a 1k.each time 3times a week.OK.no problem farang has toooooooooo much money.
    then I read the copy of the test,little did they now I had his history of over 30tests so I knew whow to read it.then I spotted the date,time and lab.that done the test,
    43hrs.after the blood had been taken,the wife phoned the lab and spoke to them who told us forget the test as the result wouldn't be true owing to the time the blood had been held.there are many tests that we had done where there was more than the odd discrepancy.
    so take care of your loved ones.HH.

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    Our newcomer naturally attracted the nipper's mates last evening and I listened in to their talk, both half Thai with professional dads and at the same intl school, so not by any means street kids. One said his dog died and the other said his two dogs died. I asked the first kid how his dog died, got run over by a motorbike, while the second volunteered that both of his were run over by cars.

    Neither seemed in the least concerned, they're gone and that's it, so I asked the second kid if he would like to get another dog, answer was short and sweet, no because it will get run over.

    Back on topic, I've heard some real horror stories about Thai vets, and hospitals of course, so the obvious questions to our dog people are: on a scale to ten being best, how much confidence do you have in the honesty/integrity and competence of your vet?

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    I've no problem with the honesty, integrity or competence of my vets, but it took a few attempts to find them.

    Our curent vets found a thyroid problem with our 13 year old bitch around 10 years ago, that no other had diagnosed. A year ago they also told me her brother had terminal cancer as soon as the test results came in. There was no attempt to prolong things and extort money, and he was put to sleep.

    There are good ones out there, but they'll be a bit more expensive.

    Previous vets killed one bitch on the operating table with too much anaesthetic and also let another escape in central Korat. Luckily we found him.

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    Glad to read Chokdee is feeling better, please keep your viagra in a safe place in future.
    Fascists dress in black and go around telling people what to do, whereas priests... more drink!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Our newcomer naturally attracted the nipper's mates last evening and I listened in to their talk, both half Thai with professional dads and at the same intl school, so not by any means street kids. One said his dog died and the other said his two dogs died. I asked the first kid how his dog died, got run over by a motorbike, while the second volunteered that both of his were run over by cars.

    Neither seemed in the least concerned, they're gone and that's it, so I asked the second kid if he would like to get another dog, answer was short and sweet, no because it will get run over.
    This is what really irks me about Thailand.
    Have you ever seen anyone walking a dog ?

    Or wait til you try and take a dog out for a walk yourself. You just end up walking upon territory upon territory of soi dogs and the dogs that are owned have free roam of the street. Confrontation upon confrontation and the locals staring at you like you are some kind of raving lunatic.

    Your average chickenhead has no compassion whatsoever for animals, pets or wild.

    If you are gonna attempt to own or be foolish enough to walk a dog in Pattaya, especially at dusk when those rabbid soi dogs become active, make sure you are not walking a fanny licker like Chok dee.

    What breed is your newcomer, Jab. I hope its a wolf or husky or pitbull

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    ^ It's no problem with proper dogs mate... mind you I do seem to be feeding half the street dogs in our area so they're all pretty friendly!


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    ^^ There's your solution, Dilly - take a large healthy pack out with you to intimidate all the soi packs you come across!

    ^ that looks like a really good group of dogs for a Thai country home, Mendip.

    I used to walk a brindle English Bull Terrier (sweet, female, but a lunatic and quite heavy, maybe 35kgs...) in BangMod, and every dog (including one house that had 3 Rottweilers) would just run away upon sight of her; all, that is, except the Bangkeows, they were always up for a ruck whenever she came near their home; they'd just stand at the territory boundary and offer her out.

    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Our newcomer naturally attracted the nipper's mates last evening and I listened in to their talk, both half Thai with professional dads and at the same intl school, so not by any means street kids. One said his dog died and the other said his two dogs died. I asked the first kid how his dog died, got run over by a motorbike, while the second volunteered that both of his were run over by cars.

    Neither seemed in the least concerned, they're gone and that's it, so I asked the second kid if he would like to get another dog, answer was short and sweet, no because it will get run over.

    Back on topic, I've heard some real horror stories about Thai vets, and hospitals of course, so the obvious questions to our dog people are: on a scale to ten being best, how much confidence do you have in the honesty/integrity and competence of your vet?
    Had a vet in BangMod, free woman, you just paid what you could afford (so I usually paid what I thought was the proper amount as I could afford to compared to many of the local Thais) and she was very good - 9/10.

    There are two vets within 5 minutes walk of me in Korea (every bloody female between the ages of 18-30 has a Maltese...); one is just a young bloke from Seoul who loves the $$$ (the wife soon stopped going there after he did a few extra tests she thought were not needed); one is an old fella, he seems to be a micro-biologist of sorts, has all the gear, gets in the poo, puts it under his microscope then gets his books out and on the internet (all during consultation period). Showed the missus the video of him cutting ChokDee's nuts off (quite bloody it was... ) - anyways, he is cheap, has all the gear, loads of experience and fully trustworthy - 9.5/10.

    English vets: cheating bastards out for the $$$.

    Quote Originally Posted by klong toey View Post
    Glad to read Chokdee is feeling better, please keep your viagra in a safe place in future.
    Thanks, mate.

    He is much better today (no food last night/morning) and some medicine, seemed fine so I took him to the doggy-day-care for a couple of hours. He's now back and having a rest...

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    ^ so you've had him stuffed then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    ^ so you've had him stuffed then?
    I tell the wife he's just 'having a rest', she's very sensitive...
    (I place him at different points throughout the house at different times of the day.)
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    What's with all the leaky brown stuff round his eyes, i have never had a dog with that going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    This is what really irks me about Thailand.
    Have you ever seen anyone walking a dog ?

    Or wait til you try and take a dog out for a walk yourself. You just end up walking upon territory upon territory of soi dogs and the dogs that are owned have free roam of the street. Confrontation upon confrontation and the locals staring at you like you are some kind of raving lunatic.

    Your average chickenhead has no compassion whatsoever for animals, pets or wild.

    If you are gonna attempt to own or be foolish enough to walk a dog in Pattaya, especially at dusk when those rabbid soi dogs become active, make sure you are not walking a fanny licker like Chok dee.

    What breed is your newcomer, Jab. I hope its a wolf or husky or pitbull
    You're right, soi dogs are docile during the day when it's way too hot to look for trouble, but the cooler evenings, hunger, competition and defence of territory can make them a bit vicious.

    Lots of dogs in my village and a neighbouring one that I visit frequently, though I've only ever seen a couple of dogs being walked, and that's within the confines.

    I don't know what mix of mixes but he grew something in two weeks; his mum must have been quite big.

    Today methinks he ain't well, lethargic, no dry food or drink, no yummy chicken, not even a raw egg/milk which he attacked with relish yesterday, drooling as much my Dane at a similar age, thrown up twice and sleeping most of the time, though some or hopefully most of that could be down to his body adjusting to a calmer environment which is very different to that of his life to date, dirt, bugs, fear and adrenalin. I tend not to panic, since anything less than serious will work itself out, but whatever it is, if it is, I hope yesterday's blood test results give a clue.

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