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    Thai police to check on American and Iranian citizens?

    I have heard that the Thai police are going to check on American and Iranian citizens in their homes in Thailand. Anyone been visited unexpectedly recently?
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    Have seen a few such reports from Americans in various areas of the country so may be some truth to it but with current lessinging of war fears expect it may not be continued.

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    Now some fuktards may take this as their privacy being invaded by Thai Immigration but myself who has zero to hide has no problem with it what so ever.

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    Even though I'm not Seppo trash it's all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    I have heard that the Thai police are going to check on American and Iranian citizens in their homes in Thailand. Anyone been visited unexpectedly recently?



    Somchai to US citizen: " You ok, na? "

    Somchai to Iranian citizen: " You kill any Amellicans, na? "

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    Every year the police where I live come around and take details of all farang living with in the Amphur. Irrespective of nationality.

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    Good Lord, how extraordinary. Presumably they have no faith in their 90 day reporting nonsense which does beg the question somewhat as to why they bother with it. Surely, the silliest folk on the planet.

    I remember years ago when Martin ran the Falang Connection in Surin he kept a register of all farang who entered his establishment and got them to sign it as to whether they were mere visitors or resident. From this anecdotal census record he estimated that Surin, its environs and the broader hinterland hosted up to 30,000 farang.

    Perhaps an overestimate but still, nevertheless, quite a feat if all were to be scrutinised personally by the local police.

    Frankly, I shall be glad when the time comes and I can finally shake the dust of their foolishness from my shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post


    Somchai to US citizen: " You ok, na? "

    Somchai to Iranian citizen: " You kill any Amellicans, na? "
    How comforting that the "Somchais" in sheriff's attire can speak a language of a foreigner he approaches... (or at least in a good English)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Every year the police where I live come around and take details of all farang living with in the Amphur. Irrespective of nationality.
    Interesting. I have never been visited or even looked in on for any reason. What do they ask you Prag? This is outside the regular check in?

    I have no idea how many foreigners reside in Lampang but I did ask the immigration Supv one time and she said it was not very many. I have only seen maybe a handful in all my time out and about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    What do they ask you Prag? This is outside the regular check in?
    Originally they used to just want a photocopy of my passports face page and a copy of my address. But now the cop just takes a photo of it on his phone. And it's always the same cop that comes to do it.

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    For what its worth concerning the actual number of foreigners in Thailand. Below is copy from a UN report - not necessarily entirely "accurate" but perhaps the best information we have available.


    Copy from the UN's 2019 Thailand Migration Report


    The number of non-Thai residents within the country has increased from an estimated 3.7 million in 2014 to 4.9 million in 2018, which includes approximately 3.9 million migrant workers from Cambodia, the Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Myanmar and Vietnam.

    The majority work in low skilled occupations, though there are more than 110,000 skilled professionals in Thailand and other major groups.

    Total Non-Thai Population 4,898,461
    Low-Skilled CLMV Migrants 3,897,598
    Stateless and Hill Tribes 552,923
    Temporary Stay 200,110

    Professional and Skilled Workers 112,834
    Refugees and Asylum Seekers 103,425
    Tertiary Students 31,571

    Temporary Stay
    Stay with Thais 37,822 stay
    Stay with a resident family 23,640 stay
    Stay with Thai Spouse 16,276 stay
    Retirement 72,969 stay
    Special – Investment 45,882 stay and work
    Special – Industrial Estates 2,331 stay and work
    Special – Petroleum 1,190 stay and work

    Total(s) 150,707 stay 49,403 stay and work 200,110 All


    Many women are the main breadwinners for their families through their employment in Thailand. Official data shows that about half of the migrant workers in Thailand are women.

    Female migrant workers 50%

    Each year migrant workers in Thailand send USD 2.8 billion in remittances through formal channels to Cambodia, the Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Myanmar and Vietnam.

    Migrants constitute aver 10 per cent of Thailand’s labor force and contribute between 4.3 and 6.6 per cent of gross domestic product.

    An estimated 64 per cent of regular migrants (1.97 million) are enrolled in a public health insurance scheme but the share drops to 51 per cent if irregular migrants are also included.

    More than 164,000 migrant children are enrolled in school within Thailand. At the same time, about 200,000 are not receiving any form of education.

    A total of 455 individuals in Thailand were officially identified as trafficked persons in 2017, however, the real scale of the problem is difficult to ascertain.

    Survey results suggests the average monthly wages in agriculture (THB 6,000) and fishing (THB 7,730) are significantly below the minimum wage in Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Stay with Thai Spouse 16,276 stay
    Interesting data. No opinion on it either way. I would suspect the marriage number is higher being many are married but choose to stay on a retirement Visa. I would expect that number to change in the coming years with all the rules for Visas.

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    Including also those travelling every 3 months to Vientiane and similar for one day trip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Interesting. I have never been visited or even looked in on for any reason. What do they ask you Prag? This is outside the regular check in?

    I have no idea how many foreigners reside in Lampang but I did ask the immigration Supv one time and she said it was not very many. I have only seen maybe a handful in all my time out and about.
    Like Pragmatic, I too live in Buriram but in a diffrent amphur. I have never had a visit from immigration, amphur or local police. I did go to the amphur a few years ago for my yellow book and a couple of years back the amphur did send me a letter inviting me to come in and apply for the pink id card but that has been the extent of the communication.

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    I too have the Yellow Book and Pink ID card but this police annual check up has been ongoing for about 14 years now. It is not immigration in case others think I'm confused. It's the Amphur police. They live within the community and I see them on a regular bases but they still do an annual visit to all the farangs around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    one day trip
    30 minutes at the Cambodian border crossings! Luckily one exits from one set Thai officers windows and returns at another set of Thai officers windows. Similar on the Cambodian entry and exit windows.

    Or they used too. Maybe they have changed recently.

    A few years ago, when I retuned to the UK to take care of my elderly father, I was told a police officer visited my wife's home to enquire as to my whereabouts. I believe she said, "Gone home". Not had a visit for the last 4/5 years.
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    My year at the village was ploplem free with uniforms, only time was when two helmetless kids died on a bike so big boss says decides to have a purge on no helmet (for the afternoon), no need to tell the villagers, so they put up a roadblock outside the village and halfheartedly stopped everyone for no helmet, no fine just a stop, but locals none too pleased esp those related to the cops which is half the village; next day back to normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Interesting data.

    Thailand Migration Report 2019 | IOM Thailand

    Basic review provides that the Thailand Immigration Report is a workhorse to combat human trafficking.

    Thailand Migration Report 2019
    The Thailand Migration Report 2019 contains 11 chapters that delve into themes such as working conditions, access to services, remittances, human trafficking and exploitation. Each chapter, written by a specific UN agency, provides up-to-date information on migration trends and patterns in Thailand, as well as independent analysis of migration-related issues and policy developments. Recommendations for policy and programmatic changes to improve migration governance are also included. The Thailand Migration Report 2019 is a publication jointly produced by members of the UN Thailand Working Group on Migration, namely: FAO, IOM, ILO, OHCHR, UN-ACT, UNAIDS, UNCDF, UNDP, UNESCO, UNFPA, UNHCR, UNICEF, UNODC, UN Women, the World Bank and WHO.


    It is quite an extensive document containing a great deal of information.
    It is a very good read of excellent data collected from many sources. The conclusions reached and printed were subject to pretty extensive peer review. The report should be accepted as providing solid and valid data. Albeit – only as valid as the information that was provided by the government sources.

    Specific to us “falang” for the most part the report concentrates on “human trafficking” so we are not really scrutinized. However, we fall into the reported category of “Temporary Stay”, and Temporary stay data was cited as; from Figures on visas issued in 2017 were shared by the Thai Immigration Bureau upon request by the International Organization for Migration (IOM).

    The majority work in low skilled occupations, though there are more than 110,000 skilled professionals in Thailand and other major groups.

    Total Non-Thai Population 4,898,461
    Low-Skilled CLMV Migrants 3,897,598
    Stateless and Hill Tribes 552,923
    Temporary Stay 200,110
    Professional and Skilled Workers 112,834
    Refugees and Asylum Seekers 103,425
    Tertiary Students 31,571

    Basically, in 2017 there were @ 200k visas for temporary stay, they would most probably be the Non Immigrant O’s visas. In addition, in 2017 there were 136,542 work permits issued for professional and skilled employees.

    From table 1.1 on page 12 of report
    Temporary Stay
    Stay with Thais 37,822 stay
    Stay with a resident family 23,640 stay
    Stay with Thai Spouse 16,276 stay
    Retirement 72,969 stay

    Special – Investment 45,882 stay and work
    Special – Industrial Estates 2,331 stay and work
    Special – Petroleum 1,190 stay and work

    Total(s) 150,707 stay 49,403 stay and work 200,110 All



    Table 1.4: Foreigners holding work permits for professional and skilled occupations by nationality (2014–17)
    Source: Department of Employment (2018)
    2014 2015 2016 2017
    Country Total Country Total Country Total Country Total
    Japan 37,301 Japan 36,666 Japan 36,468 Japan 36,550
    China 17,860 China 18,811 China 22,162 China 23,633
    Philippines 12,780 Philippines 13,416 Philippines 14,374 Philippines 15,196
    UK 11,095 UK 10,784 India 12,421 India 13,550
    India 11,433 India 11,964 UK 10,601 UK 10,392
    USA 9,079 USA 8,775 USA 8,645 USA 8,227
    Korea (ROK) 6,100 Korea (ROK) 6,065 Korea (ROK) 5,979 Korea (ROK) 6,035
    France 4,445 France 4,685 France 5,011 France 5,136
    Taiwan 4,956 Taiwan 5,271 Taiwan 5,463 Taiwan 5,718
    Australia 3,551 Australia 3,464 Australia 3,422 Russia 2,962
    Other 9,328 Other 8,046 Other 8,746 Other 9,143
    Total 127,928 Total 127,947 Total 133,292 Total 136,542

    But, without being able to specifically identify an exact number we can figure we account for @ 150k-200k out of the @ 70M people living in Thailand in 2017. Yup, all of about 0.3%

    Yea, given those numbers it is most certain that we make a massive economic impact on the Thai’s and deserve the royal treatment we do receive, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
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    I too have the Yellow Book and Pink ID card but this police annual check up has been ongoing for about 14 years now. It is not immigration in case others think I'm confused. It's the Amphur police. They live within the community and I see them on a regular bases but they still do an annual visit to all the farangs around.
    I certainly didn't think you were confuded. I am sure you were reporting accurately.
    I think my point was that everything varies according to the community lived in even if the distance between the communities is rather small.

    On the subject of another thread my wife was summonsed today to the locl tessabaan to collect her photograph of the king. she was given a number and had to report at a certain time. Her photograph came in a frame both free of charge. Again same country, same photo, different communities, differing procedures

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    we make a massive economic impact on the Thai’s and deserve the royal treatment we do receive, eh?
    But as you know if you visit Thai government hospitals, out of a ward of 50 beds, 48 are occupied by felangs!

    Of which 87% runaway dressed in their Government supplied tee shirts and pants, without paying the restaurant tab, bar bill or special massage fee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Of which 87% runaway dressed in their Government supplied tee shirts and pants, without paying the restaurant tab, bar bill or special massage fee!
    Yup, it does boggle my mind - you'd think we would police ourselves better. And, just imagine, the embassies turn a blind eye to the transgressions of their countrymen. Naught but a bunch cheap charlies we be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post

    I remember years ago when Martin ran the Falang Connection in Surin .


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    Ya goin back now Sausage ass.

    He been dead since 1955.

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    But does it really bother you fukos that the filth come round ya gaff and check ya shit out ?

    If ya not doing illegai shit then who gives a flying fuk. ?

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    i have had one police address check in 17 years, not many farangs out this way, 3 or 4 at the time I think.
    Guy died, Norwegian, but they couldn't find his passport, Norwegians had no record of him, turns out he was here on a USA passport, immigrated.
    Local cops got an ass kicking, body and no ID, took a long time to sort it out, so they did what they were supposted to do in the first place, register foreigners in their area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    But does it really bother you fukos that the filth come round ya gaff and check ya shit out ?
    One 5 minute visit every few years?

    Better than being locked in jail, whilst your attempt to legally remain in a country.

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