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    Thai law - born of an alien father - not equal? Opinion

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    While I was looking for something else, I came across this post and I've never heard of it before.

    Quote Originally Posted by AsGoodAsItGets View Post
    <snip> I am saying is Thai law looks at children of western men differently than that of western women married to Thai men.


    Section 17. With respect to a person who has Thai nationality, by reason of his having been born within the Thai Kingdom of an alien father, his Thai nationality may be revoked if it appears that:
    • He has resided in a foreign country, of which his father has or used to have nationality, for a consecutive period of more than five years as from the day of his becoming sui juris;
    • There is evidence to show that he makes use of the nationality of his father or of a foreign nationality, or that he has an active interest in the nationality of his father or in a foreign nationality;
    • He commits any act prejudicial to the security or conflicting with the interests of the State, or amounting to an insult to the nation;
    • He commits any act contrary to public order or good morals.

    The above is evidence that Thais have a slanted view towards Luk Kruengs and especially those of western/foreign fathers.
    Repealled?
    Out of context?

    Informed opinions please

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    BTW, where's the thread for posting images of your kids ... couldn't see it in 'The Family Room'.

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    Course it's true.

    It's easier to play the farang in some situations here. Mentioning otherwise can open prejudices from certain types of natives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    BTW, where's the thread for posting images of your kids ... couldn't see it in 'The Family Room'.
    No specific thead as I recall. Just start a new one.
    The Family Room

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    No specific thread as I recall. Just start a new one.
    The Family Room
    Thanks Norton, but there definitely was one.

    Ant's kids were on it , as were Pragmatic's, mine also.


    If, however, it's gone, then some one (senior) member just *cough* ... and I'll get the hint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat View Post
    Course it's true.

    It's easier to play the farang in some situations here.
    Mentioning otherwise can open prejudices from certain types of natives.
    Pat, I'm referring to THE LAW ... as opposed to the Rule of Law which is an entirely different thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Thanks Norton, but there definitely was one.

    Ant's kids were on it , as were Pragmatic's, mine also.


    If, however, it's gone, then some one (senior) member just *cough* ... and I'll get the hint.
    This one?

    https://teakdoor.com/members-only/236...en-thread.html

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    ^ Thanks niddy ... that's it. Cheers David

    I always thought it was in the Family Thread and when I didn't spot it there, had a quick look in the Members,
    the next most logical place.

    They are 4 now ... https://teakdoor.com/members-only/236...ml#post3719509

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Pat, I'm referring to THE LAW ... as opposed to the Rule of Law which is an entirely different thing.
    This is often selective as or when it suits their prejudice. Having a Thai mum = a lot of things entitled to, but you wouldn't think so if you asked around in person.










    (waits for certain member to chip in claiming how wrong I am)

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    My daughter who will be 15 in August has been living in the UK since December 2008, renewed her Thai passport twice in that time with no issues or even any mention of losing her Thai nationality. She even got a Thai ID card while on holiday last year with no issues.

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    Foreign wives of Thai men can also get a Thai passport after 5 years of continuous annual extensions of stay based on marriage, and don't have to show any proof of funds when doing extensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
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    While I was looking for something else, I came across this post and I've never heard of it before.

    Section 17. With respect to a person who has Thai nationality, by reason of his having been born within the Thai Kingdom of an alien father, his Thai nationality may be revoked if it appears that:
    He
    Repealled?
    Out of context?

    Informed opinions please

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    Try ChaklyDee and Patrick, they claim to know it all when it comes to reading Thai law in the original Thai.

    https://teakdoor.com/thai-visas-and-v...zenship-7.html (Thai Citizenship)

    I see your issue, along with the "Thai dual nationality" debate, and the "owning land & usufruct" debate as falling into that category where things look OK, and there are no shortage of positive anecdotes, but there is still a lingering hypothetical uncertainty, that's not necessarily obvious... so "nothing to see here" ...sweep sweep.

    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    My daughter
    With all this gender bending in the law, perhaps the question is resolved by simply stating that you identify as a female, and your "son" calls you mum.


    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Foreign wives of Thai men can also get a Thai passport after 5 years of continuous annual extensions of stay based on marriage, and don't have to show any proof of funds when doing extensions.
    Ditto...


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    https://www.babycenter.com/baby-names-luigi-948025.htm

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    Thanks. That dress does show off my legs.

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    and the irish green highlight the slanty eyes

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    I think she's clenching and crossing her legs to hold in a large dollop of irish oatmeal.

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    mind you...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo View Post


    Section 17. With respect to a person who has Thai nationality, by reason of his having been born within the Thai Kingdom of an alien father, his Thai nationality may be revoked if it appears that:


    • He has resided in a foreign country, of which his father has or used to have nationality, for a consecutive period of more than five years as from the day of his becoming sui juris;
    • There is evidence to show that he makes use of the nationality of his father or of a foreign nationality, or that he has an active interest in the nationality of his father or in a foreign nationality;
    • He commits any act prejudicial to the security or conflicting with the interests of the State, or amounting to an insult to the nation;
    • He commits any act contrary to public order or good morals.





    so girls, ok, and being born outside thailand ok.

    phew... what does it say in the original Thai?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Thanks. That dress does show off my legs.
    ok, luigi...

    the name of the game is mario brothers....and the two characters are mario and luigi.

    does that mean that one character's full name is mario mario?




    hat tip tuks

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    Damn half-breed quasi-foreigners.....

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