A falang having the yellow house book...does it give you a leg to stand on if she wants to boot your ass out. I really have no idea what that yellow house book means for me. I mean..for a friend of mine.
A falang having the yellow house book...does it give you a leg to stand on if she wants to boot your ass out. I really have no idea what that yellow house book means for me. I mean..for a friend of mine.
I have one. Why? Cuz a few years back the Thai government fcuked up and said farangs with 'Yellow Books' could get free medical treatment, same as a Thai. The book was very awkward to get. Different offices different requirements. Normal Thai thing. Anyways the 'free' medical cover was dropped and the 'Yellow book' became a waste of money. Now if you need 'proof of abode' you can get a 'Pink ID' card from your amphur, free of charge but you need a 'Yellow Book'. And around we go.
Yellow book or not she can boot you out of the house if it is registered in her name.
Last edited by OhOh; 05-08-2019 at 09:45 AM.
Use my yellow book in lieu of a "Certificate of Residency", accepted at DLT for auto purchase, registration, DL renewal, etc.
Quite simply, the yellow house book is an official registration of where you are living in Thailand. It doesn't signify any ownership of the property or anything like that.
You are obliged to be given one, but... it is probably the least uniform procedure in the country. Every office has different rules and requirements, some charge, some don't. Some make it impossible, some make it difficult, some let it be easy. You'll have to go to your amphur/tessabahn and see what they require. Bring printouts and as much information as you can about it, particularly if out in the sticks and it could be some old granny that hasn't a clue what you're talking about.
With the yellow tabien bahn you can also get your pink Thai ID card.
The benefits are:
Can be used instead of Certificates of Residence, which are needed when buying a vehicle, getting/renewing a driving license, etc. (If renewing car and motorbike driving licenses, and buying a new car, you would need 3 CoR's. Think the Brit embassy charges around 3,500thb each at this stage).
Can be used to open a bank account.
No need for the TM30 nonsense.
One presumes that if "ownership" of a property is an essential requirement for a foreigner, to obtain a yellow house book, then that doesn't need to be stated
One presumes the foreigner who has the yellow house book is legally responsible for it's accuracy and any foreigners who stay in it, yes?
A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.
It isn't.
It's simply your registered address in Thailand. Ownership of the property, who owns it, has nothing at all to do with it.
As in, zero, zip, nada.
No. It simply lists the foreigner (who has the yellow house book) as staying at that address.
You seem to think that it has something to do with ownership of the property.
It doesn't.
Last edited by Luigi; 05-08-2019 at 10:00 AM.
Because you're registered in the system as being resident at that address.
That is, when you're staying there.
If you leave the province etc etc the hotel will need to do the TM30 nonsense, but when you're staying at the residence listed in the yellow Tabien Bahn, the TM30 isn't required.
As there appears to be some official Thai interest in ensuring compliance one would have thought anyone liable would ensure they comply
The fact that different office demand additional or less information or have no idea of the "opportunity of income" does not protect the unprotected
If one is a property tycoon and rents them out to Thais or foreigners, one presumes one is liable to be raided and charged plus fined, if found to be in non compliance
If one has a Thai property and foreign guests stay overnight, are they obliged to report the fact?
I understand legal ownership of a property is not involved in obtaining a yellow house book
I presume that when a foreigner purchases a property in Thailand it is registered in some Thai government system, which can be legally searched to produce a list all foreign owned properties in a particular policing area
However if the property owner is a foreigner, they are unable to obtain a blue house book, but can obtain a yellow house book allegedly with some difficulty
If the yellow house book, available to foreigners, serves the same purpose as the blue house book, available to Thais, ie the identity of the "house master", along with a list of residents Thai or foreign
This implies they, the property owner/House Master, is responsible for registering foreign 24+ hours stays and presumably any who stay longer, yes?
If so can foreign property owners who rent the properties to Thais, foreigners or either them to stay overnight or longer, expect dawn raids to ensure compliance?
Last edited by OhOh; 05-08-2019 at 10:45 AM.
Interesting in that I have never filled out a TM 30 form. Now maybe this is because I am here working but I travel all over Thailand and usually show nothing but my Thai Drivers license as ID. I do not even carry my Passport with me and have not for years. I do keep my WP with me when I am going around for the company.
As for the Yellow Book, It is basically a Resident confirmation nothing more really however it is instrumental in buying vehicles, motorcycles or setting up bank accts in your name. My Yellow book was free ( well except for the 200 bht we gave the Mooban Grand Poohbah to say I am nice neighbor). The process took about 2.5 days as my wife did the running around the area to get the info.
It apparently is a requirement in Thai law that a Thai has 15 days to become or cease to be included in a Blue House Book
"My personal translation of this part, it is possible that i made errors and anybody is free to correct me:
The House Owner / Master has to notify
1) when somebody moves out of the house, within 15 days
2) when somebody moves in the house, within 15 days "
from a search for "thai blue house book"Presumably if a Thai moves into a property, situated in Thailand, that does not have a blue house book but a yellow house book, they are entered into the yellow house book?
Al right - ya made me go look. A few years ago we, but - in accordance with the Thai legal requirements "My Wife the Thai Citizen" purchased a new house in Nonthaburi province. We were issued a blue book, a yellow book and a chanote.
The blue book and the yellow book are absolutely identical except for the color. All the numbers are the exactly the same less the persons ID number. Hers starts with a 3 (thai) and mine starts with a 6 (foreign). Page 1 is house descriptive in both books, she is listed on page 2 of the blue book and I'm listed on Page 2 of the yellow book.
Other than the personal ID numbers being different, the only other difference is the majag (where you come from) in the blue book she comes from her fathers (passed) address, and I, in the yellow book come from america.
In/on the chanote I'm listed in the mortgage holder column.
You're confused again.
The tabien baan doesn't list a house master. It lists who's resident there.
A Thai will not be listed in a yellow tabien baan. They will be listed in a blue one.
A tabien baan is simply registration of who is registered at the property. It does not signify ownership (Thai or Foreign).
Capiche?
Simply registration of who is registered as residents at the property.
Now, foreign ownership. If you own a condo and are listed as such on the chanote. You will need to register a TM30 within 24 hours of an alien arriving to stay there. For most parts of the country this can be done online.
A tenant of a property I own was done for this 2 or 3 years ago, the immigration police were going around checking it, and fining aliens that didn't have it. It actually should have been me (the owner) that paid the fine, but immigration have taken it upon themselves to fine the alien tenant. I was notified after the fact.
Last edited by Luigi; 05-08-2019 at 11:08 AM.
No.
A blue tabien baan is no big deal to get for a Thai, and no big deal to change to a different one.
Sorry to say, you're reading far too much into what you think it is.
Edit: forgot that I have my daughter registered in a blue tabien baan for a property I own (foreign owned, Thai citizen listed as resident there in a blue tabien baan for the property). Was done in a few minutes a few months ago.
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