Uni lass reports on Thai Police corruption

[pseudolus]

Found this quite interesting for a few reasons.

Firstly, the interview with a copper who says that Fake police are not their problem as they are not police. Who does he think should deal with people pretending to be police men? Monks?

The same rozzer, very young with a high rank by the way, calls bribery a "hole in the system" because people do not want to go and pay at the cop shop, they are doing them a service by letting them bribe their way out.

The same said copper also says openly that the police chiefs are ordering illegal stops and charges so they can kit quotas. He says that the cops themselves get 40% of the fine for issuing REAL tickets. So, if your fine is 400 baht, your bribe should be in the 160 baht level because that is all the rozzer personally gets from it - Real tickets are piece work for the coppers - the more they issue the more they make. I do wonder though why the cops then take less than the 40% for a bung if they get more for from the real tickets?

Over all though, the young would be reporter, sums it up perfectly. The Thai people do not like the corruption when the camera is facing them, but when it is not, it is them who are fueling the corruption because it is easier and cheaper.

Takes two to tango.

[Bangyai]

Over all though, the young would be reporter, sums it up perfectly. The Thai people do not like the corruption when the camera is facing them, but when it is not, it is them who are fueling the corruption because it is easier and cheaper.

Takes two to tango.

Exactly. So all the street protests....ostensibly against corruption .....obviously not about it being bad so much as who is benefiting from it. Now it's going to be the army and if their previous form is anything to go by it won't be by much less than the politicians.

[VocalNeal]

The laws are published as well as the fines. There is even an English version somewhere on TV. The only "corruption" would be false claims of laws broken. If one is ridding with no helmet etc. the law is the law.

[terry57]

The thing is, if one has actually broken the law and the pig lets you pay him off its good crack innit.

Saves a shit load of pissing around.

On the other hand if one gets shaken down for fuk all that's not good.

Never happened to me though.

[pseudolus]

The thing is, if one has actually broken the law and the pig lets you pay him off its good crack innit.

Saves a shit load of pissing around.

On the other hand if one gets shaken down for fuk all that's not good.

Never happened to me though.

Because they take your driving license, if it is a fake copper, and you insist on a ticket, you have given him your ID to sell. Even more reason to chuck them a 100 and tell them to oink off perhaps?

[terry57]

^

Yep, its not like its a shit load of money is it ?

Just sling them a red one. Job done.

[pseudolus]

I wonder if the rozzers have clued into the fact that because they usually wait for the victim to offer the bribe, and that doubtless attempt to bribe a policeman is a worse crime that driving merrily along the road minding your own business, they could actually extort more money from the person when they try to sling them a red one?

[Pragmatic]

the cops themselves get 40% of the fine for issuing REAL tickets.

This was discussed a few weeks back and the police actually get 95% of the ticket value and it's then shared with others due to not all police being front line.

[pseudolus]

the cops themselves get 40% of the fine for issuing REAL tickets.

This was discussed a few weeks back and the police actually get 95% of the ticket value and it's then shared with others due to not all police being front line.

Wheres that link? The guy in the video said the guy actually giving the ticket personally gets 40% so maybe the rest is spread out (passed higher up)

[Pragmatic]

I don't care what the guy in the vid says. Marmite the Dog first quoted that the police get 95% of the ticket value some time ago. I thought him wrong and I got my missus to ask a local copper if it was true. And yes he confirmed it, but added that all police are placed in groups and the 95% fine money is shared.
I can't find where this was discussed before, but I'll continue to look.

[Pragmatic]

I haven't found that link yet Pseudo but here's an interesting vid. https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-asi...ml#post2364574 (Bangkok: Cop caught "asking for tea money" (video))

[thaimeme]

Nothing new.

Been ongoing forever.

What's the issue...??

[luckyjim]

Yep, its not like its a shit load of money is it ?

Just sling them a red one. Job done.

The morality of the issue doesn't bother you then?

[thaimeme]

Yep, its not like its a shit load of money is it ?

Just sling them a red one. Job done.

The morality of the issue doesn't bother you then?

An ethics stance and moral compass is required first off, Noons...

Need to put oneself in others' shoes.

[luckyjim]

An ethnics stance and moral compass is required first off, Noons...

That would be an "Ethnic stance and moral compass" you're referring to. Am I right?

[pseudolus]

I don't care what the guy in the vid says. Marmite the Dog first quoted that the police get 95% of the ticket value some time ago. I thought him wrong and I got my missus to ask a local copper if it was true. And yes he confirmed it, but added that all police are placed in groups and the 95% fine money is shared.
I can't find where this was discussed before, but I'll continue to look.

We are talking about slightly different angles of the same thing.

the country gets 5%, the cops the rest. The guy in the video says the guy who issues the ticket gets 40% so the rest goes elsewhere.

[thaimeme]

An ethnics stance and moral compass is required first off, Noons...

That would be an "Ethnic stance and moral compass" you're referring to. Am I right?

Yes....
Sorry - fixed it.
Typo.

[Albert Shagnastier]

The BKK traffic police are nothing compared to the bastards that control the private companies in London (arcade motors for example).

It's like a kid nicking a sweet from the corner shop Vs a sophisticated and merciless fraudster.

Don't get me wrong - they're both scum and the planet needs neither of them.

[thaimeme]

The BKK traffic police are nothing compared to the bastards that control the private companies in London (arcade motors for example).

It's like a kid nicking a sweet from the corner shop Vs a sophisticated and merciless fraudster.

Don't get me wrong - they're both scum and the planet needs neither of them.

As it has nothing whatsoever concerning civilised public safety and societal well-being......it's all about collecting revenue.

95% of laws, rules, regulations have little to do with civil guidance and proper social order - it's all about collecting cash in one form or another.

Created by them, for them.

Complex suppression and control is what they do.
Because we allow them to do so.

[Albert Shagnastier]

As it has nothing whatsoever concerning civilised public safety and societal well-being......it's all about collecting revenue. 95% of laws, rules, regulations have little to do with civil guidance and proper social order - it's all about collecting cash in one form or another. Created by them, for them. Complex suppression and control is what they do. Because we allow them to do so.

I'll give you that one.