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    he can have it in a couple of years from now when he's more capable of defending himself and be able to say no.

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    I don't really understand why he couldn't have the quad. Are you saying people would steal or break it?

    Let the kid have his quad is my vote.

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    [QUOTE=Yasojack;2788726]he can have it in a couple of years from now when he's more capable of defending himself and be able to say no.

    Agree with that. A g/f bought her 8 year old one of these little I-pad thingys with gaming in mind. Was basically taken over by the bigger kids in the group and was rooted after a couple of weeks.

    On another note - those "little jobs" around the house? Is the doggie better trained than that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grasshopper View Post
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    he can have it in a couple of years from now when he's more capable of defending himself and be able to say no.
    Agree with that. A g/f bought her 8 year old one of these little I-pad thingys with gaming in mind. Was basically taken over by the bigger kids in the group and was rooted after a couple of weeks.

    On another note - those "little jobs" around the house? Is the doggie better trained than that?
    Fair comments. I just assumed an 11 year old would be supervised while riding a quad and making sure nothing bad happened to it wouldn't be a problem.

    My comment had nothing to do with the OP or teaching the value of money anyhow, just find it a bit strange that someone would let other people control what they can buy and when they can buy it. I personally would have got him the quad, taught him how to look after it, then supervised him and not let anybody damage or steal it.

    Like I said, fuck all to do with the OP just thought it was a shame for a kid not to get his dream present for that reason. 11 is already quite old to be getting in to motor sport if you want to be any good so waiting another couple of years because you feel you couldn't stop the bike/quad getting damaged by other kids is a shame IMO.

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    just how do you stop someone stealing something.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    just how do you stop someone stealing something.?
    That's a very strange question. How do you stop people stealing everything else you own?

    Using the quad bike as an example, if you think there is a genuine danger your 11 year old will be mugged and have his bike stolen from him then clearly he shouldn't be out in an area like that on his own with or without a bike.

    Secondly, as I said in my last post I would have thought an 11 year old would need their dad supervising them when they were riding a quad bike anyway, so you would be there to make sure nothing happened to it.

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    so why are you telling me something that i have already posted, you may wish to police your children, that's upto you. I enjoy my time with my son though kids want to be kids and be with friends.

    you seem to wish to debate everything i post do you have a control disorder by any chance?

    And as you have said you have lived here for 9 yrs before, so i would think you would be aware of what happens over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post


    My sons birthday is in a couple of weeks he'll be Eleven, over the last three years i have been teaching him about saving and how to make and money doing little jobs etc.

    Jacky Boy,

    I do like the tone of this thread, it shows me that you are trying to be a good father and teach your boy about money matters.

    Respect for that EH.

    Teaching ones children about finances is as Important as teaching them how to be a good member of society.

    They will need the financial skill as they age and if they learn the Importance of money at an Early age it will certainly impact their future in a major way.

    This is the correct way Jackie.

    If You can encourage your young fella to earn his money by doing chores he will learn that money does not come easy but if you give him money for nothing the lesson is lost.

    If your young fella actually earns his money and he wants to spend it on a Birthday Party, Quad bike or what ever its OK as he has worked for it.

    The trick is to Tax him 20% of his earnings and bang that in the Bank for his future.

    This way he gets to spend his earned money and save at the same time instilling in him the importance of working and saving.

    On the other hand if you are shelling out for his Birthday party and he ain't earned the money its your call Jacky Boy but do not spoil him.

    You must teach him now about the importance of money.

    Thank fuk my dad taught me at a young age.

    All the best with it Jacky.

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    I prefer you being a old kvnt

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    Well Jacky,

    Some posters are getting on your case regards your 11 year old and the Quad Bike.

    Considering the young fella is only 11 and you live in Yasothon, it will cause nothing but trouble simply because the other boys ain't got one and every fuker will want to ride it.

    No way Jacky, No fukin Quad bike EH.

    Be smart on this one Jacky, you know the go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post

    I prefer you being a old kvnt
    Jacky boy, the game is like this innit.

    When you post up shit concerning your bar talents I view you as a proper fukin shit head but this is quite different innit.

    You are showing us that you care for your kids and this is what I respect in a poster.

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    Terry me dear old mucker as you say some not have kids so never has the chance to try and guide someone through your own mistakes you have made in life.

    Nope no quad until he is older.

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    ^

    Good move Jacky boy,

    Teach your boy the correct way in life and we will get on OK.

    Kids only have one at getting it right, its all about their upbringing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post

    Considering the young fella is only 11 and you live in Yasothon, it will cause nothing but trouble simply because the other boys ain't got one and every fuker will want to ride it.
    So his son has to live like the yokels for fear of standing out? No way to live IMO.

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    Your ignorance is astounding, my child learns the lessons of life and lives amongst the people, he is taught the thai ways and farangs ways.

    the thai way is if you have the money you give the child whatever they want and they become spoilt pratts, and don't learn the value of money which is what the OP is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    so why are you telling me something that i have already posted, you may wish to police your children, that's upto you. I enjoy my time with my son though kids want to be kids and be with friends.

    you seem to wish to debate everything i post do you have a control disorder by any chance?

    And as you have said you have lived here for 9 yrs before, so i would think you would be aware of what happens over here.
    Just commenting on something you said in your OP that I thought was strange. I said it was off topic so if you don't want to talk about it then don't.

    I only became aware of the thread after you sent me a message saying "fuck off idiot you know nothing" after I had made a grand total of 10 posts on the forum.

    If you don't want to be called on your weird choice to not get your kid what he really wants for his birthday because you aren't capable of looking after it or teaching him to look after it, then don't draw attention to yourself by sending rude messages to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    Your ignorance is astounding, my child learns the lessons of life and lives amongst the people, he is taught the thai ways and farangs ways.

    the thai way is if you have the money you give the child whatever they want and they become spoilt pratts, and don't learn the value of money which is what the OP is about.
    My ignorance? Priceless.

    You're the one who wants to send his kid out the door with a quad bike without adult supervision but can't because he lives amongst yokels who his son isn't capable of protecting his property from.

    Yeah it's me who's ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy View Post


    So his son has to live like the yokels for fear of standing out? No way to live IMO.

    Rural Thailand does not quite operate the same as a Western Country, your posts scream that you know absolutely fuk all about the system over here.

    No need for you to add more to this thread.

    Jackys on the ball with this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy View Post


    So his son has to live like the yokels for fear of standing out? No way to live IMO.

    Rural Thailand does not quite operate the same as a Western Country, your posts scream that you know absolutely fuk all about the system over here.

    No need for you to add more to this thread.

    Jackys on the ball with this one.
    I know plenty about living in Thailand but happily agree I know fuck all about living in bum fuck nowhere where your 11 year old kid can't own a quad bike for fear of the local kids stealing it.

    Agree I have no more to add to this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy View Post

    I only became aware of the thread after you sent me a message saying "fuck off idiot you know nothing" after I had made a grand total of 10 posts on the forum.

    Don't draw attention to yourself by sending rude messages to people.

    Fozzy,

    I feel you have made a fair post there, its a tad disappointing that Jacky has called you naughty names after 10 posts.

    Jacky is the village idiot after all and we must cut Jacky some slack.

    You sound quite OK to me even though I think your posts concerning the Quad bike is fukin silly.

    Anyway Fozzy,

    Welcome to Teakdoor.

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    ye i'm going to hold his hand right the way through his life so nothing ever goes wrong for him, hmm great way to set him up for life.

    He presently has a family motorbike that i taught him to ride and he does a good job of it, so your statements are ill founded once again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post
    Your ignorance is astounding, my child learns the lessons of life and lives amongst the people, he is taught the thai ways and farangs ways.

    the thai way is if you have the money you give the child whatever they want and they become spoilt pratts, and don't learn the value of money which is what the OP is about.
    My ignorance? Priceless.

    You're the one who wants to send his kid out the door with a quad bike without adult supervision but can't because he lives amongst yokels who his son isn't capable of protecting his property from.

    Yeah it's me who's ignorant.

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    Fuck me Terry village idiot thats something coming from you.

    Fozzy seems to becoming a bit of a stalker, hmm he's not your son is he Terry.?

    Anyway thanks for your kind words now fuck off, and drink your 5 dollar cask wine



    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy View Post

    I only became aware of the thread after you sent me a message saying "fuck off idiot you know nothing" after I had made a grand total of 10 posts on the forum.

    Don't draw attention to yourself by sending rude messages to people.

    Fozzy,

    I feel you have made a fair post there, its a tad disappointing that Jacky has called you naughty names after 10 posts.

    Jacky is the village idiot after all and we must cut Jacky some slack.

    You sound quite OK to me even though I think your posts concerning the Quad bike is fukin silly.

    Anyway Fozzy,

    Welcome to Teakdoor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fozzy View Post


    I know plenty about living in Thailand but happily agree I know fuck all about living in bum fuck nowhere where your 11 year old kid can't own a quad bike for fear of the local kids stealing it.

    Well fozzy,

    Its not just about the local kids stealing it, its more about the local kids thinking that they have equal rights in riding the fuker.

    Its the same as the Aboriginals in Australia, if one kid gets a bike it belongs to all.

    That's O'k if its only a bike but add a motor and some serious speed and one is certain to have big problems.

    Buy the kid a new push bike I reckon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post

    He presently has a family motorbike that i taught him to ride and he does a good job of it.

    That's a very good move Jacky boy, the boys can bang that around the paddock all friggin day and night no worries at all.

    Cost fok all as well.

    Fok the quad EH.

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    The value of money is nothing more than one more component to the value system. Money isn't the only thing of value. If the child has learned (by 11 surely he has) to value what he perceives as worth then only he can place money inside or outside that box.

    In my childhood money didn't come easy but that didn't stop me from spending it like a drunken sailor. IMO people who place too much value on money are shallow and boring. Personally I rather my children be art-types over Wall Street-types.

    Sometimes we're in denial in matters of what we want for our children. Their having accumulated wealth could satisfy our own insecurities.

    By the time they're about six their personality has pretty much formed. It'd take a catastrophic event to derail that process and wipe clean what has been imprinted. IOW, seems unlikely events that financed his 11th birthday party will live on forever.

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    So camel toe you would be more than happy for your kids to spend everything and live from day to day.Like many country folk do.

    not sure if you have noticed in this day and age kids go to uni these days and study for 4 years get a degree and have nothing for it except a great wad of debt nah no thanks i want my kids to enjoy there life and not have those worries.

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