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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
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    It's a warning .
    Only to those who wouldn't have the wherewithal to heed it. To the rest of us it's a boring cliche.

    ....and myth/stereotype.

    Rather like listening to the same Old Wives Tales over again....
    Eventually, such fiction becomes widely accepted as a broad and truer standard.
    Who the Hell do you think you are ? YOU say these things are myths so it must be true just because somebody as wise as you says so ? They are not myths at all . They are true incidents but it apparently must happen to YOU personally before you stop calling every victim a liar --- a stereotype --- a myth .

    Have you seen trapdoor spiders ? How they just sit and wait for creatures so they can attack them . That seems to be your approach . Don't contribute . Don't be creative . Don't understand . Above all don't learn anything ---- just sit there and wait for the chance to call others liars . You truly are not worth the time this is taking except that you are dangerous to other people because you would have people believe these things don't happen . That they are myths . You utter fool .

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    Some would prefer to exist in the ever-present illusion that has been set-forth for them......and repeated over and again, as it becomes almost dogmatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Some would prefer to exist in the ever-present illusion that has been set-forth for them......and repeated over and again, as it becomes almost dogmatic.
    and how is that working out for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp
    You think if a woman steals away a man's life and I speak about it then I must be misogynistic ? So women can do anything they want and if we mention it we must be misogynist ?
    At worst what we have here is a case of some thick old dick thinking he could pork a much younger woman if he gave her a little lux, calme and volupte. She wanted more. And got it.

    Men of advanced years need to understand that if they want to put their putrid old cocks somewhere nice it's going to cost them. Now he does!

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    Note to ones self.....

    IF I get older, be careful of young ladies who say I'm handsome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurgen View Post
    Note to ones self.....

    IF I get older, be careful of young ladies who say I'm handsome.
    You mean you aren't - older or handsome?


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    It's the "IF" I'm curious about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mao say dung View Post
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    You think if a woman steals away a man's life and I speak about it then I must be misogynistic ? So women can do anything they want and if we mention it we must be misogynist ?
    At worst what we have here is a case of some thick old dick thinking he could pork a much younger woman if he gave her a little lux, calme and volupte. She wanted more. And got it.

    Men of advanced years need to understand that if they want to put their putrid old cocks somewhere nice it's going to cost them. Now he does!
    What a beautiful use of a fine language .

    Your mother must have been proud to find a son who turned out to be so eloquent .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Some would prefer to exist in the ever-present illusion that has been set-forth for them......and repeated over and again, as it becomes almost dogmatic.
    A pity you didn't actually write this .


    It's almost intelligent .

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    It's always a shame to hear tales like this, the older gent from a generation that were perhaps a little too trusting of others and slightly naive, getting mixed up with insincere, disrespectful, opportunistic female.

    Stories like this are ten-a-penny, there are probably 100,000 relationships just like this one playing out in a similar manner here. I'm certainly tired of hearing the same old thing, guys here need to wise the fuck up.
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    ... I like to fantasise sometimes, and I lie very occasionally... my superior home, job, wealth, freedom, car, girl, retirement age, appearance, satisfaction with birth country etc etc... Over the past few years I have put together over 100 pages on notes on thaiophilia...

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    Boomers... naive and trusting? Selfish and tending to self-pity and avoidance of personal responsibility more like.

    Then you've got his pathetic "friend", wallowing in vicarious self-pity... presumably having run out of sources for the regular version.

    Pathetic doesn't begin to cover it.

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    There are many stories like this, it's very sad for those who get burnt. But I dont concider it to be the norm, most Thai women are the opposit, they are careing and loyal, especially if they are treated correctly.
    I would say the guy was lonely and thought he had found a way to spend his final years.
    I dont mind hearing this guys story, it keeps you continually aware, maybe not of your own situation, but to advise those around you of what might be happening. Always a different tale to learn from, even though this guy failed to see just that.
    Thanx Wasp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp View Post
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    I'm not sure it's boring, but it is sadly predictable to anyone who has been around for a while (and not only in Asia). A 68-year old man with a much younger (I presume) foreign wife, in her country where he has no power and doesn't even speak the language (again, I presume), has to be a fucking idiot to allow all control of his funds to be put in the hands of some lady, about whom (again, I presume) he knows close to nothing. Broke at 68 in a foreign country, I feel for the man, but, a bit of common sense might have been in order.
    You're absolutely right of course .

    When we tried to caution him he would get aggressive in defense of her . It's not even simply that there's none so blind as a lovestruck fool . He took time to warn me against this kind of thing . I became involved with a Thai lady and he warned me about fallangs being conned left right and centre . Then he handed access to his lady like that !!! I mean what the Hell explains that ? Yes he's a fucking idiot . He's been so stupid you could never measure the extent of the stupidity . Wouldn't listen to his own words of caution . Cut off people who tried to slow it down . He just could not believe she would do this and even now cannot believe that someone would just take EVERYTHING !!!!. And it will happen again and again and again I have no doubt .

    I'm not sure which are worse; the girls who do this type of thing or the Thai Court System that always rules in their favor for no other reason than being Thai. One thing I can say about my home Country is that most Judges try to be fair and would not let something as silly as the nationality of the parties affect their judgment.

    Sadly it's sometimes those who are honest themselves and have never experienced gross dishonesty in others that stumble blindly into one of these traps.

    Also, no, these stories are not boring and they deserve to be repeated for the benefit of those who think they have found true love and lose their good judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mao say dung View Post
    Clearly erudite .

    ( You'll need a dictionary for that .)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
    There are many stories like this, it's very sad for those who get burnt. But I dont concider it to be the norm, most Thai women are the opposit, they are careing and loyal, especially if they are treated correctly.
    I would say the guy was lonely and thought he had found a way to spend his final years.
    I dont mind hearing this guys story, it keeps you continually aware, maybe not of your own situation, but to advise those around you of what might be happening. Always a different tale to learn from, even though this guy failed to see just that.
    Thanx Wasp
    Actually you are absolutely right about this . I too had decided it was all down to loneliness and a fear of spending his remaining years with nobody around . He had quite quickly lost his 2 coffee mates and I think the World was looking very empty .

    Still stupid though .

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    BobR :

    " I'm not sure which are worse; the girls who do this type of thing or the Thai Court System that always rules in their favor for no other reason than being Thai. One thing I can say about my home Country is that most Judges try to be fair and would not let something as silly as the nationality of the parties affect their judgment.

    Sadly it's sometimes those who are honest themselves and have never experienced gross dishonesty in others that stumble blindly into one of these traps.

    Also, no, these stories are not boring and they deserve to be repeated for the benefit of those who think they have found true love and lose their good judgment. "



    It has taken me some years to pin down why I think these things happen ...... apart from the outrageous greed of course ....... and I think we must be massively influenced by our Anglo-Saxon Christian backgrounds { even if we're not religious } so that we grow up believing and saying that lying is wrong .

    We still lie --- but we know it's wrong . But in Thailand , in India , in Pakistan , in Saudi , in Africa if you lie and that gets you what you want then you have done what you wanted . There doesn't seem to be any conscience about lying to achieve what you want . Here you're more likely to have people lie and then look at you and say " What can I do ? "
    " What can I do ? " should be the Thai National Anthem . Borrow money - promise to pay back - spend the money and then say " Cannot pay . No have . What can I do ? " Without any guilt showing . Then they are amazed when fallangs get furious about any lying .

    Lying is of no importance to them but in our Christian background lying is a big deal that can also get you jailed .

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    As someone mentioned already, he must have put the properties in her name. I have two friends going and gone through the same process, one with a value much higher than that. The properties through the courts were split 50/50. One valued at over 80million.

    I have another friend presently going through the same with a property just over 2 million. He's married with 2 kids. As the kids are with him he was been told he will get full possession over the property and car which are both in his ex wife's name that he paid for.
    You bullied, you laughed, you lied, you lost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    As someone mentioned already, he must have put the properties in her name. I have two friends going and gone through the same process, one with a value much higher than that. The properties through the courts were split 50/50. One valued at over 80million.

    I have another friend presently going through the same with a property just over 2 million. He's married with 2 kids. As the kids are with him he was been told he will get full possession over the property and car which are both in his ex wife's name that he paid for.
    He believed the properties were in his name . They were condos so he could have them in his name .
    But as the documentation was all in Thai he could never really know .
    He was foolish not using a proper lawyer in order to save 20 000 Baht ( which ended up costing him 30 Million ) .

    The huge mistake of course was giving her Power of Attorney . Technically she didn't do anything wrong but clearly she was acting against his interests all along . He lost in Court because of course she acted as his 'agent '
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    What gets us though is the knowledge that in Thailand the Law will always favour the Thai and the cash slipped into the palm further loads the processes against the fallang .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    The properties through the courts were split 50/50. One valued at over 80million.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    As the kids are with him he was been told he will get full possession over the property and car which are both in his ex wife's name that he paid for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp
    What gets us though is the knowledge that in Thailand the Law will always favour the Thai and the cash slipped into the palm further loads the processes against the fallang .

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    It's sad, but much of the problem comes about, because old ugly guys, maybe such as myself, think some cute little honey young enough to be their daughter, or grand daughter, is going to fall in love with them, well sorry, if you think that to be the case, you might just be senile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mozzbie47 View Post
    It's sad, but much of the problem comes about, because old ugly guys, maybe such as myself, think some cute little honey you !ng enough to be their daughter, or grand daughter, is going to fall in love with them, well sorry, if you think that to be the case, you might just be senile.


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    I'm sure men generally don't believe that .

    I'm sure everyone knows it's a straight commercial deal . The guy gets the companionship of someone he could never get back home . The lady gets security and probably a good lump of money later . I don't think many old sods believe that a 22 year old beauty actually loves them .
    An old guy ' Bobby ' in Pattaya told me ages ago he knew perfectly well that there was no love from his 26 year old partner .... but he was 78 and when he slept he had someone 26 next to him --- not 75 ! Both of them knew what the deal was and when Bobby passed away she went home with a few million Baht .

    But it does cause devastation on those many occasions when somebody gets badly scammed .

    The thing is ....... being scammed is avoidable if you are realistic about the facts .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mao say dung View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    The properties through the courts were split 50/50. One valued at over 80million.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    As the kids are with him he was been told he will get full possession over the property and car which are both in his ex wife's name that he paid for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wasp
    What gets us though is the knowledge that in Thailand the Law will always favour the Thai and the cash slipped into the palm further loads the processes against the fallang .

    Getting through your days just trying to piss people off ??? That's a pleasant way to see out your empty life , Mao Say Crap !!.

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    Good points Wasp, what you say reminds me of a couple of guys who have nice Thai wifes and lovely children. I would say they are are in a relationship as you've mentioned. Also true they are much better of than they ever would be, to top it off the guys are very good to them, that is nice to see.

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    You'd think a guy who had the wits to get that much in the first place would be smarter than to let some woman steal it from him.

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