Whats you views on this then guys

[expattaffy]

OK guys, you all know I put out a thread a few weeks ago regarding cider in Thailand. Well the reason I put that thread out was I was thinking about importing it and selling it to local traders. Well I can tell you all that I have contacted Bulmers in the UK and they have informed me that they cannot do a deal with me because the already have someone in Thailand importing from them. Anyone think that is illegal? Looks like they have created a monopoly to me.
Their reply
Thank you for your email and interest in distributing Bulmers in Thailand. Unfortunately we are unable to accommodate your request as we already have a local partner with whom we work with to distribute other cider brands. As I’m sure you will understand it would be a conflict of interest to pursue opportunities with your company. Nevertheless we thank you for your interest.nterest.

[Necron99]

In that industry, distribution agreements are almost always exclusive.
What's more telling is their sending their reply in blue text on a blue background...

[Loy Toy]

I posted on your thread informing you that there are agents here including a Bristol lady called Selena that brings in a whole range of British ciders.

I also know she spends a lot of time and marketing expense on promoting these products and it is only fair that the principles protect her and according to their written agreement.

[Looper]

Anyone think that is illegal?

No

Looks like they have created a monopoly to me.

Engaging a single partner organisation to perform distribution of your product in an overseas market is not creating a monopoly. It is common business practise in many industries.

Free competition must exist between the product and other similar competing products in the target market but that is not an issue concerning distribution rights of the imported product.

[expattaffy]

I posted on your thread informing you that there are agents here including a Bristol lady called Selena that brings in a whole range of British ciders.

I also know she spends a lot of time and marketing expense on promoting these products and it is only fair that the principles protect her and according to their written agreement.

Sorry mate but to me that looks like creating a monopoly which I thought was illegal in the UK

[AntRobertson]

Sorry mate but to me that looks like creating a monopoly which I thought was illegal in the UK

It is, but your example isn't - and nor is it in the UK either.

[expattaffy]

[quote=Looper;2393267]

Anyone think that is illegal?

No

Looks like they have created a monopoly to me.

Engaging a single partner organisation to perform distribution of your product in an overseas market is not creating a monopoly. It is common business practise in many industries.

Free competition must exist between the product and other similar competing products in the target market but that is not an issue concerning distribution rights of the imported product.[/quote Well I have just emailed the Sun and the monopolies commission so we shall just have to wait and see what they say

[Necron99]

Anyone think that is illegal?

No

Looks like they have created a monopoly to me.

Engaging a single partner organisation to perform distribution of your product in an overseas market is not creating a monopoly. It is common business practise in many industries.

Free competition must exist between the product and other similar competing products in the target market but that is not an issue concerning distribution rights of the imported product.

Have you been dating a commercial lawyer?

[adzt1]

In the UK is your first fault.
second . its definently not a monopoly as its an internal affair .
why would they want loads of distributors and paperwork when one contact could sub if needed.

people do make a living out of the idear you have its just your cider idear is old news !

[sabang]

Why not find a French cider to distribute? I believe you can source them cheaper anyway.

[Necron99]

Well I have just emailed the Sun and the monopolies commission so we shall just have to wait and see what they say

They'll say your a loon. Probably in white text on a white background.
The incumbent has the distribution rights for this region.
If you also want to distribute, then you have to buy off her. Rights she bought, either in cash or commitment. Ring coke and tell them you want to wholesale their drink and see what the say.

[expattaffy]

In case none of you noticed at the time, Curries got fined millions of pounds for illegal trading, They were afraid of small traders undercutting the price of their Sony TVs so what they done was as good as blackmailed the Sony company with the threat of; Look here if you sell to these small traders we will stop buying your products altogether, so who do you want to lose, us or them. This resulted in small traders unable to buy sony TVs , Hence Curry's were creating a monopoly there

[nidhogg]

I posted on your thread informing you that there are agents here including a Bristol lady called Selena that brings in a whole range of British ciders.

I also know she spends a lot of time and marketing expense on promoting these products and it is only fair that the principles protect her and according to their written agreement.

Sorry mate but to me that looks like creating a monopoly which I thought was illegal in the UK

How can that be a monopoly? You are free to import cider to Thailand from any company in the world - except Bulmers, who already have an agent here doing for them.

You being too late to get on the wagon with Bulmers does not make it a monopoly.

[expattaffy]

Why not find a French cider to distribute? I believe you can source them cheaper anyway.

Good idea

[Loy Toy]

Sorry mate but to me that looks like creating a monopoly which I thought was illegal in the UK

Yet having 3 or four distributors offering the same product to the same bar is a good idea mate?

Imported Cider products already have huge import duties as well as marketing costs are high. Too be honest I would look at other products to promote as this industry is cut-throat.

[expattaffy]

Well I have just emailed the Sun and the monopolies commission so we shall just have to wait and see what they say

They'll say your a loon. Probably in white text on a white background.
The incumbent has the distribution rights for this region.
If you also want to distribute, then you have to buy off her. Rights she bought, either in cash or commitment. Ring coke and tell them you want to wholesale their drink and see what the say.

UH who is to blame for the blue text on a blue background, Bulmers for using blue text or teak door for using a blue background?

[Bogon]

^ But if Curries signed a declaration and stricked a deal that they would be the sole distributor of Sony TVs before they hit the U.K market, then Curries would be relible for selling the TVs to the small traders and not Sony thus no illegal trading would have taken place.

[AntRobertson]

I posted on your thread informing you that there are agents here including a Bristol lady called Selena that brings in a whole range of British ciders.

I also know she spends a lot of time and marketing expense on promoting these products and it is only fair that the principles protect her and according to their written agreement.

Sorry mate but to me that looks like creating a monopoly which I thought was illegal in the UK

How can that be a monopoly? You are free to import cider to Thailand from any company in the world - except Bulmers, who already have an agent here doing for them.

You being too late to get on the wagon with Bulmers does not make it a monopoly.

I think this is one of those threads where in asking 'what are your views on this' he actually meant 'I want everyone to agree with me on this'.

[aging one]

You asked for advice and then refute all given to you. They have an agent its that simple.

[Bogon]

In case none of you noticed at the time, Curries got fined millions of pounds for illegal trading, They were afraid of small traders undercutting the price of their Sony TVs so what they done was as good as blackmailed the Sony company with the threat of; Look here if you sell to these small traders we will stop buying your products altogether, so who do you want to lose, us or them. This resulted in small traders unable to buy sony TVs , Hence Curry's were creating a monopoly there

But if Curries signed a declaration and striked a deal that they would be the sole distributor of Sony TVs before they hit the U.K market, then Curries would be relible for selling the TVs to the small traders and not Sony thus no illegal trading would have taken place.

[expattaffy]

Sorry mate but to me that looks like creating a monopoly which I thought was illegal in the UK

Yet having 3 or four distributors offering the same product to the same bar is a good idea mate?

Imported Cider products already have huge import duties as well as marketing costs are high. Too be honest I would look at other products to promote as this industry is cut-throat.

UH as Maggie Thatcher stated, having more than one supplier for gas, water and electricity was supposed to be good for the customer

[expattaffy]

[quote=Bogon;2393300]

In case none of you noticed at the time, Curries got fined millions of pounds for illegal trading, They were afraid of small traders undercutting the price of their Sony TVs so what they done was as good as blackmailed the Sony company with the threat of; Look here if you sell to these small traders we will stop buying your products altogether, so who do you want to lose, us or them. This resulted in small traders unable to buy sony TVs , Hence Curry's were creating a monopoly there

But if Curries signed a declaration and striked a deal that they would be the sole distributor of Sony TVs before they hit the U.K market, then Curries would be relible for selling the TVs to the small traders and not Sony thus no illegal trading would have taken place.[/quo
Thing is they didn't, they just issued threats, sell to them and we will not buy from you. Blackmail

[AntRobertson]

Thing is they didn't, they just issued threats, sell to them and we will not buy from you. Blackmail

Be that as it may, it has precisely nothing to do with the situation that you've laid out in the OP.

[Necron99]

^ Seems that way.

Anyhow, seeing as we are all here now, how would a cider made from green mangos go?

[AntRobertson]

how would a cider made from green mangos go?

Certainly sounds interesting!