Mixed race kids

[Norton]

why do you think Tiger Woods disowned his mother's country!

When he was a unknown wee Leuk Kreung mom tried to get him Thai citizenship and was flatly refused. Guess they didn't care for the chocolate Kreung bit. After he became famous he was offered Thai citizenship. Tiger told them to fuck off.

Next question please.

[superman]

Or simply the fact that 'luk khrueng' is simply a colloquial word and doesn't have the negative or nefarious connotations you think it does. It's the same when people get themselves all wound up and upset over being referred to as 'farang'.

So for Thais to call black people เกี่ยวกับชาวนิโกร (Negro) the same applies for me as it does for them then? Tiger Woods would have been called a เกี่ยวกับชาวนิโกร. Which is probably the real reason for him to turn his back on Thailand.

[Mr Earl]

Perhaps in the higher echelons of a government awash with nepotism the mixed race kids might be disadvantaged, but if they were properly educated they are going to have an edge over the rest of the inbred dolts.
I've got two Mexican half breed kids, but they were well schooled, perfectly bilingual and are doing well out there in the real world. Their mom is an interesting breed, quarter Spanish, quarter Lebanese, quarter French, and quarter red haired Mayan Indian. Real smart too with two doctorate degrees.
I reckon I didn't dilute the gene pool too badly.
I'm a typical American mix of Scot, Welsh, Brit, French and Swedish

[Rural Surin]

Perhaps in the higher echelons of a government awash with nepotism the mixed race kids might be disadvantaged, but if they were properly educated they are going to have an edge over the rest of the inbred dolts.
I've got two Mexican half breed kids, but they were well schooled, perfectly bilingual and are doing well out there in the real world. Their mom is an interesting breed, quarter Spanish, quarter Lebanese, quarter French, and quarter red haired Mayan Indian. Real smart too with two doctorate degrees.
I reckon I didn't dilute the gene pool too badly.
I'm a typical American mix of Scot, Welsh, Brit, French and Swedish

What happened to that drop of Native American blood, Earl?

Nothing to claim?

[DrB0b]

This must be a case of TD's mirrored form of PC - raising objectives to one commenting on parents referring to their own kids by a slang term for their mixed heritage.

Yes. In English we call it satire. It's a very effective form of ridicule and well worth spending some time learning how to use. It's at its best when used against those with no concept of it.

BTW, the literal meaning of the word farang, as defined in the 1723 Royal Ayutthaya Thai-Portugese dictionary is "big-nosed smelly alcoholic person who likes complaining and won't shut up and stop whinging for more than five bloody seconds". No racist connotations, Thai has lots of great words for being racist in but farang and luk khreung are not included in that group.

That, by the way, is sarcasm, and best avoided as, being blindingly obvious even to the most dunderheaded, it tends to irritate people a lot more than satire.

[AntRobertson]

Or simply the fact that 'luk khrueng' is simply a colloquial word and doesn't have the negative or nefarious connotations you think it does. It's the same when people get themselves all wound up and upset over being referred to as 'farang'.

So for Thais to call black people เกี่ยวกับชาวนิโกร (Negro) the same applies for me as it does for them then? Tiger Woods would have been called a เกี่ยวกับชาวนิโกร. Which is probably the real reason for him to turn his back on Thailand.

One has absolutely nothing to do with the other - apples and oranges.

[robuzo]

This must be a case of TD's mirrored form of PC

Or simply the fact that 'luk khrueng' is simply a colloquial word and doesn't have the negative or nefarious connotations you think it does.

It's the same when people get themselves all wound up and upset over being referred to as 'farang'.

To me it depends on context. If I'm in a restaurant and someone asks, "Who ordered the laab pladuk?" and another staff member says, "The farang," I'm not the least bit bothered. When my in-laws call me "the farang" I don't like it, nor does my son like it when his Thai classmates call him "farang" (whereas my in-laws never call my son "farang," only me, and nowadays for some reason they only do that when they think I'm not listening). My son doesn't object in general to being referred to as a farang or a luk krung, but seems to prefer people who know him calling him by name. Quirk of his, I suppose.

[AntRobertson]

Well sure context always matters, pretty much anything can be offensive or pejorative in certain circumstances. But the point is that the words aren't in and of themselves offensive.

[robuzo]

Well sure context always matters, pretty much anything can be offensive or pejorative in certain circumstances. But the point is that the words aren't in and of themselves offensive.

At least I'm not being called khaek, although in point of fact it would be more accurate to call me that than some Indian whose family has been in Thailand for generations (khaek is pretty much always a pejorative irrespective of context, isn't it?).

[AntRobertson]

Not sure what that is sorry?

[robuzo]

"Khaek" is literally "guest" and also what Indians (Arabs, too, for the most part) are called. I'll love to get the bottom of how the Indians get labelled "guest" in the land of Brahmin ritual and ubiquitous Hindu deity statues, but the Chinese are kith and kin. I have taken Sino-Thais to task for calling my kid a farang ("He's at least as Thai as you," etc.), pointlessly I realize but sometimes it feels good to vent.

[AntRobertson]

Oh right, yep with you now! Sorry, not very good with phonetics!

Anyways I think you're right in that one, offensive regardless of the context.

[Chairman Mao]

Sri Mahamariamman Temple (It's a Hindu temple) on Silom road is usually just called Wat Khaek by Thais.

[Chairman Mao]

No one with kids being called 'farang noi' in place of their actual name (and not in the third person)?

[Mr Earl]

What happened to that drop of Native American blood, Earl?

Nothing to claim?

I don't know of any, and my grandma on my mom's side was a genealogist. She researched both sides of the family. The best I can do is come up with some French ancestors in Brittany. As far I I know I'm the only one who has spawned outside the Anglo-Saxon blood lines.

[CaptainNemo]

why do you think Tiger Woods disowned his mother's country!

When he was a unknown wee Leuk Kreung mom tried to get him Thai citizenship and was flatly refused. Guess they didn't care for the chocolate Kreung bit. After he became famous he was offered Thai citizenship. Tiger told them to fuck off.

Next question please.

Surely you knew it was a rhetorical question?...

[Hypatia]

Dr Bob, I feel sure that satire should be amusing, and sarcasm the lowest form.. so far ...

Or simply the fact that 'luk khrueng' is simply a colloquial word and doesn't have the negative or nefarious connotations you think it does. It's the same when people get themselves all wound up and upset over being referred to as 'farang'.

I remain unconvinced that Thailand isn't populated with bunch of racists, quite vicious too, and the various slang and more importantly, acceptance of its usage is a direct consequence. It reminds me of darky, ( polite ) and nigger ( less polite ) which were quite acceptable in my youth.
Those who don't allow this opinion are actually perpetuating a conservative's version of "PC."
But that's what a cohesive group does, when it can control the message , perpetuates its own view and castigates others.

[Hypatia]

Well sure context always matters, pretty much anything can be offensive or pejorative in certain circumstances. But the point is that the words aren't in and of themselves offensive.

No, just the context in which they are used, is.

[Hypatia]

Well sure context always matters, pretty much anything can be offensive or pejorative in certain circumstances. But the point is that the words aren't in and of themselves offensive.

At least I'm not being called khaek, although in point of fact it would be more accurate to call me that than some Indian whose family has been in Thailand for generations (khaek is pretty much always a pejorative irrespective of context, isn't it?).

OK, so they have different terms for different races, yet the terms aren't racist.

Or is it racism that isn't racist ? Maybe it's the accepted usage of racist terms that .....isn't racist?

[DrAndy]

Or is it racism that isn't racist ?

yes, the racism isn't deliberate, but it can be racism to the person involved

[MongersSyndicate]

I think making chldren in general is a waste of time and money, and especially in the case of mongrels. Thailand is a cool country, let's keep it that way and stop popping out luek kreng just to satisfy your own affective needs, it's so stupid.

[DrAndy]

^ well, was that your own thought or did you copy it from some mongers' site?

[ChookRaffle Jones]

^^
born a dickead, raised as a dickhead, will die a dickhead

[Chairman Mao]

^ If only he was born a Thai, he might have some respect. Oh well.

[wasabi]

Bitter sad resentful Jaffas that have been deleted by nature to the wonders and joys of being a parent. In the U.K they actually cater for miserable grumpies that only want to Holiday in Hotels and resorts banning children. Why live in or holiday in Thailand where children are treasured.?