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    It looks like prescription pills are my best friend but do I have to google what's the most efficient and best tasting or will you tell me?

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    People need permission to die. It's as if those who've had enough of life as it presents itself that want to depart, are emotionally blackmailed into not even mentioning their wish to leave with whatever dignity they possess, in case their nearest and dearest get upset and don't forgive them for making the ultimate choice.

    We all need to let go in death, the dying and their friends.
    “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? John 10:34.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    People need permission to die. It's as if those who've had enough of life as it presents itself that want to depart, are emotionally blackmailed into not even mentioning their wish to leave with whatever dignity they possess, in case their nearest and dearest get upset and don't forgive them for making the ultimate choice.

    We all need to let go in death, the dying and their friends.
    The most comforting thought for me is what a terminally ill young woman once posted on FB:
    No matter how hard it gets, it will be OK in the end. If it's not OK then it's not the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumbitch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    People need permission to die. It's as if those who've had enough of life as it presents itself that want to depart, are emotionally blackmailed into not even mentioning their wish to leave with whatever dignity they possess, in case their nearest and dearest get upset and don't forgive them for making the ultimate choice.

    We all need to let go in death, the dying and their friends.
    The most comforting thought for me is what a terminally ill young woman once posted on FB:
    No matter how hard it gets, it will be OK in the end. If it's not OK then it's not the end.
    I agree, it's a win win really!
    Whilst on this morbid (pun intended) subject, a doctor friend reckons the best way (pleasant, that is) is with helium - readily available (balloons). He say a clear plastic bag, a few drinks and bag tightened over your head. Apparently helium has a relaxing affect and is painless - you die due to lack of oxygen, but with a smile!
    But, as suggested, when do you decide to do such a thing? I guess if you are suffering too much, but it can't be an easy decision and many talk about, but don't have the nerve! If you leave it too late, you may be not capable!
    In which case, you're still OK as the woman said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguzzibob
    I agree, it's a win win really!
    Whilst on this morbid (pun intended) subject, a doctor friend reckons the best way (pleasant, that is) is with helium - readily available (balloons). He say a clear plastic bag, a few drinks and bag tightened over your head. Apparently helium has a relaxing affect and is painless - you die due to lack of oxygen, but with a smile!
    But, as suggested, when do you decide to do such a thing? I guess if you are suffering too much, but it can't be an easy decision and many talk about, but don't have the nerve! If you leave it too late, you may be not capable!
    In which case, you're still OK as the woman said!
    Well said.

    From wiki:
    A suicide bag, also known as an exit bag or hood,[1][2] is an euthanasia device consisting of a large plastic bag with a drawcord used to commit suicide through inert gas asphyxiation. It is usually used in conjunction with an inert gas like helium or nitrogen, which prevents the panic, sense of suffocation and struggling during unconsciousness (the hypercapnic alarm response) usually caused by the deprivation of oxygen in the presence of carbon dioxide. This method also makes the direct cause of death difficult to trace if the bag and gas canister are removed before the death is reported.[3][4][5]
    Suicide bags were first used during the 1990s. The method was mainly developed in North America...Suicides using bags or masks and gases are well documented in the literature.[29][30]
    Suicide bags have been used with gases other than inert gases, with varying outcomes. Examples of other gases are propane-butane[31] and natural gas.[32]
    Suicides using a suicide bag and an inert gas produce no characteristic post-mortem macroscopic or microscopic findings.[4][16] Forensic death investigations of cause and manner of death may be very difficult when people commit suicide in this manner, especially if the apparatus (such as the bag, tank, or tube) is removed by someone after the death.[3][16] Petechiae, which are often considered a marker of asphyxia, are present in only a small minority of cases (3%).[33] Frost reported that of the two cases he studied that featured death from inert gas asphyxiation using a suicide bag, one had "bilateral eyelid petechiae and large amounts of gastric content in the airways and that these findings challenge the assumption that death by this method is painless and without air hunger, as asserted in Final Exit."[34] A review study by Ely and Hirsch (2000) concludes that conjunctival and facial petechiae are the product of purely mechanical vascular phenomena, unrelated to asphyxia or hypoxia, and do not occur unless ligatures were also found around the neck. The authors wrote,[35]
    Unless the bag is fastened around the neck by a ligature with sufficient tension to obstruct venous return from the face, in our experience, such persons never have facial or conjunctival petechiae. Persons with tight fastenings around the neck are recognizable instantly by their facial plethora and numerous petechiae. We are aware that some observers may have seen an occasional petechia in rare instances of plastic bag suicide. However, we have not seen detailed descriptions of such observations that permit another person to evaluate the variables that might have produced an isolated petechia in a rare victim. Conversely, in New York City, an average of approximately 15 persons per year accomplish suicide by plastic bag, and we never have observed petechiae in a person who did not tightly fasten the bag around his/her neck
    — Ely SF, Hirsch CS, "Asphyxial deaths and petechiae: a review". J. Forensic Sci, (2000)
    There are also documented cases of suicide attempts using the suicide bag that failed.[32] A case report study in 2015 discussed the risks associated with failed attempts using this method. The authors wrote, "If the process is interrupted by someone, there is no gas or the tube slips out of the bag, there is a high risk of severe hypoxia of the central nervous system."[16]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bag

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