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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro
    Here is a any good investigative documentary:
    Nice one..I'll watch that later today.

    Sugar....grrr... evil evil, yet so addictive.

    This is a simple, yet powerful animation on how bad sugar is for us and why.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    Must've been 30 years ago I first heard the 'sugar's a poison' story. Been using it at since along with most other people and still here. The latest one is wheat's going to kill you. Bread made of wheat has been a staple of mankinds diet since the birth of civilization.
    It's not "sugar".
    Not sugar cane, honey etc.

    It's processed sugar (fructose)
    The thread title is
    'Sugar the bitter truth'
    Not
    'processed sugar (fructose) the bitter truth.'
    Why?
    Sensationalism?

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    ^dunno mate - sorry, thought we were on about sugar, it's derivatives and what an evil bunch of cvnts Monsanto are.

    Did I miss a meeting?

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    Mainstream media reporting more and more on this:

    Eating too much added sugar may be killing you
    Nanci Hellmich, USA TODAY EST February 3, 2014

    A new study finds that added sugar increases your risk of death from heart disease.

    Consuming lots of added sugar increases risk of death from heart disease
    High consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages also ups the risk
    People are consuming an average of 15% of daily calories from added sugars

    Sugar not only makes you fat, it may be killing you.

    Consuming too much added sugar — in regular soda, cakes, cookies and candy — increases your risk of death from heart disease, according to a new study, the largest of its type.

    "The risk of cardiovascular disease death increases exponentially as you increase your consumption of added sugar," says the study's lead author, Quanhe Yang, a senior scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    Entire: Eating too much added sugar may be killing you
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    mentioned this on another thread.
    it isn't sugar alone that is the killer
    but the 50/50 mix of sugar and fat in food.
    doctors have only recently discovered this fact
    processed grub your favourite donuts etc etc etc
    these are the real killers.
    So watch out in thailand and every other country for that matter.
    On their own the damage is not so bad
    but the 50/50 mix is the real killer in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbaro View Post
    Mainstream media reporting more and more on this:

    Eating too much added sugar may be killing you
    Nanci Hellmich, USA TODAY EST February 3, 2014

    A new study finds that added sugar increases your risk of death from heart disease.

    Consuming lots of added sugar increases risk of death from heart disease
    High consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages also ups the risk
    People are consuming an average of 15% of daily calories from added sugars

    Sugar not only makes you fat, it may be killing you.

    Consuming too much added sugar — in regular soda, cakes, cookies and candy — increases your risk of death from heart disease, according to a new study, the largest of its type.

    "The risk of cardiovascular disease death increases exponentially as you increase your consumption of added sugar," says the study's lead author, Quanhe Yang, a senior scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    Entire: Eating too much added sugar may be killing you
    What do they mean by 'added' sugar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    What do they mean by 'added' sugar?
    If you buy half a cow it's got no sugar in it.

    If you buy 50 cases of beef pasta sauce from makro made out of that half cow, it will have had sugar added for the flavour. That's the added sugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    What do they mean by 'added' sugar?
    If you buy half a cow it's got no sugar in it.

    If you buy 50 cases of beef pasta sauce from makro made out of that half cow, it will have had sugar added for the flavour. That's the added sugar.
    So why is only 'added' sugar bad?
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    Cancer 'tidal wave' on horizon, warns WHO


    Large numbers of people do not know there is a lot they can do to reduce their exposure to risk


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    The globe is facing a "tidal wave" of cancer, and restrictions on alcohol and sugar need to be considered, say World Health Organization scientists.

    It predicts the number of cancer cases will reach 24 million a year by 2035, but half could be prevented.

    The WHO said there was now a "real need" to focus on cancer prevention by tackling smoking, obesity and drinking.

    The World Cancer Research Fund said there was an "alarming" level of naivety about diet's role in cancer.

    Fourteen million people a year are diagnosed with cancer, but that is predicted to increase to 19 million by 2025, 22 million by 2030 and 24 million by 2035.

    The developing world will bear the brunt of the extra cases



    Chris Wild, the director of the WHO's International Agency for Research on Cancer, told the BBC: "The global cancer burden is increasing and quite markedly, due predominately to the ageing of the populations and population growth.

    "If we look at the cost of treatment of cancers, it is spiralling out of control, even for the high-income countries. Prevention is absolutely critical and it's been somewhat neglected."

    The WHO's World Cancer Report 2014 said the major sources of preventable cancer included:
    • Smoking
    • Infections
    • Alcohol
    • Obesity and inactivity
    • Radiation, both from the sun and medical scans
    • Air pollution and other environmental factors
    • Delayed parenthood, having fewer children and not breastfeeding
    For most countries, breast cancer is the most common cancer in women. However, cervical cancer dominates in large parts of Africa.




    Dr Chris Wild, WHO: "We're not going to be able to address this problem by simply improving treatment"


    The human papillomavirus (HPV) is a major cause. It is thought wider use of the HPV and other vaccines could prevent hundreds of thousands of cancers.

    One of the report's editors, Dr Bernard Stewart from the University of New South Wales in Australia, said prevention had a "crucial role in combating the tidal wave of cancer which we see coming across the world".

    Dr Stewart said human behaviour was behind many cancers such as the sunbathe "until you're cooked evenly on both sides" approach in his native Australia.

    He said it was not the role of the International Agency for Research on Cancer to dictate what should be done.



    But he added: "In relation to alcohol, for example, we're all aware of the acute effects, whether it's car accidents or assaults, but there's a burden of disease that's not talked about because it's simply not recognised, specifically involving cancer.

    "The extent to which we modify the availability of alcohol, the labelling of alcohol, the promotion of alcohol and the price of alcohol - those things should be on the agenda."

    He said there was a similar argument to be had with sugar fuelling obesity, which in turn affected cancer risk




    Meanwhile, a survey of 2,046 people in the UK by the World Cancer Research Fund (WCRF) suggested 49% do not know that diet increases the risk of developing cancer.

    A third of people said cancer was mainly due to family history, but the charity said no more than 10% of cancers were down to inherited genes.

    Amanda McLean, general manager for the WCRF, said: "It's very alarming to see that such a large number of people don't know that there's a lot they can do to significantly reduce their risk of getting cancer.



    For most countries, breast cancer is the most common cancer in women

    "In the UK, about a third of the most common cancers could be prevented through being a healthy weight, eating a healthy diet and being regularly physically active.

    "These results show that many people still seem to mistakenly accept their chances of getting cancer as a throw of the dice, but by making lifestyle changes today, we can help prevent cancer tomorrow."

    It advises a diet packed with vegetables, fruit, and wholegrains; cutting down on alcohol and red meat; and junking processed meat completely.

    Dr Jean King, Cancer Research UK's director of tobacco control, said: "The most shocking thing about this report's prediction that 14 million cancer cases a year will rise to 22 million globally in the next 20 years is that up to half of all cases could be prevented.

    "People can cut their risk of cancer by making healthy lifestyle choices, but it's important to remember that the government and society are also responsible for creating an environment that supports healthy lifestyles.

    "It's clear that if we don't act now to curb the number of people getting cancer, we will be at the heart of a global crisis in cancer care within the next two decades

    BBC News - Cancer 'tidal wave' on horizon, warns WHO

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    nothing to do with Fukishima then.

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    nowt to do with the Fukishima disaster then.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick
    creating an environment that supports healthy lifestyles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick
    this report's prediction that 14 million cancer cases a year will rise to 22 million globally
    The problem is last time I checked the overall death rate of people is still 100%. So if you prevent other causes of death the ones harder to prevent will rise. Plus there is human nature. You can blame Teflon or Fukushima but you don't question your own behaviour. No smoking and less alcohol will go a long way but .........

    Industrial and traffic pollution in cities do their part as well, no doubt.
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    I was sat opposite a well respected member on here lastnight explaining to me about the amount of sugar the issanites are consuming eating theyre sticky rice .

    BTW the first 8 words in that sentance are not strictly true ,,,,,,,,, it was Marmite

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    Too much of anything is bad for you.

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    Wouldnt know , ^ never had too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    So why is only 'added' sugar bad?
    "minus" sugar was just more chilled out in general. "added" always wanted more

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    Quote Originally Posted by stubborn old man
    Too much of anything is bad for you.
    Good point, all in moderation.

    Interesting study, Mr. Lick. Definitely cancer is linked no doubt about it with a healthy diet and lifestyle.

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    Another Aussie TV documentary/story on this...


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    A couple more on sugar

    These from the Canadian Broadcasting Channel





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    When I was diagnosed with pre-diabetes some five years ago I really looked into the sugar in my food and was bitterly disappointed with what I found. Even my favourite "healthy" breakfast cerial listed sugar as the main ingredient.

    Now I hardly touch processed food and anything ending in "ose" gets a wide berth which has enabled me to successfully beat off diabetes. Not only did I discover how much sugar is sneakily slipped into all manner of food but I came to realise milk, that natural drink full of goodness, is anything but. I avoid milk like it was death in a bottle now.
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    ^ You should eat more fish.

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    ^ironically enough.

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    More on sugar.

    High-sugar diet is as 'damaging to your brain as extreme stress or ABUSE'

    By JAYANTHI MANIAM and MARGARET MORRIS FOR THE CONVERSATION
    PUBLISHED: 18:29 GMT, 17 February 2016 | UPDATED: 15:44 GMT, 18 February 2016


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...#ixzz40ZcC6RrO
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    Sugar found to be as damaging as early life stress, scientists discover
    Chronic sugar intake triggers changes to hippocampus the area of the brain, which is important for both memory and stress

    Experts say changes noted in the brain are of 'great concern' given the high consumption of sugary drinks, particularly among young people

    Jayanthi Maniam and Professor Margaret Morris were involved in the study at the University of New South Wales, Australia

    There has been a seismic shift in the dietary landscape in recent years.
    Where once fat was the much maligned enemy, now scientists are turning their attention to sugar.

    It is now widely accepted that more must be done to encourage people to reduce their sugar intake.
    So much so that dietary guidelines in the UK and US have been altered to reflect the changing scientific evidence.

    The World Health Organization recommends no more than 10 per cent of a person's daily energy should come from added sugars, or those found naturally in juices and
    honey.

    That equates to around 50g or 12 teaspoons a day.


    While the links between a high-sugar diet and obesity are well documented, in light of the mounting evidence, experts are turning their attention to the other ways sugar can affect the body.


    Read more: High-sugar diet is as 'damaging to your brain as extreme stress or ABUSE' | Daily Mail Online
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    A lot of the initial posters are no longer on The Door...Could it be sugar-related?...

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