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    Powdered Milk

    The time is approaching when the Little Boss is supposed to get of the breastmilk.

    What brand of powder did you use for your baby ? And where to buy ?

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    We used "Enfalac". Available everywhere, in all supermarkets.

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    how old is he?i used SMA which you can get in big c.

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    I would be damn careful with any formula I bought anywhere after the fuck up with that powdered stuff from China last year, it was world wide so anything is suspect, but make as sure as you can that nothing comes from China, I know I will buy no foods at all that come from there.
    I fed my last child mostly Gerbers baby food, some things I cooked and ran thru a processor and fed her what she wanted from the table and whole cows milk with a formula additive I can't remember what it was called.
    But feeding from the table you have to be extra careful that they do not get something they can choke on, but it is worth the extra work and care when they do so enjoy real food, cut a piece of roast beef long grain so they can chew on it but not bite anything off and they sure do enjoy that. makes a hell of a mess tho.
    We did things different in the old days, my kids were not raised on commercial formula.
    My grandma lost her milk for awhile when my mother was a little baby (about 1912) and they fed her Mares milk as the Dr. ordered and she just died a couple months ago at 97, so didn't seem to hurt her any, I never got commercial formula and am 76 and still plugging along.

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    She's 4 month, but we'll probaly wait till the 6 month mark.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    I would be damn careful with any formula I bought anywhere after the fuck up with that powdered stuff from China last year, it was world wide so anything is suspect, but make as sure as you can that nothing comes from China, I know I will buy no foods at all that come from there.
    Agree. That why I am seekimg advice here.

    The wife started a month ago giving her small portions of rice and banana, and the kid loves it

    Thanks for your response
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    "Enfalac" is an Mead/Johnson product based in the US of A. www.enfababy.com

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    Nestle is quite large in the USA also but was using powdered milk from China, in fact a lot of the stuff that goes into my medications comes from China bought by the ton and put together in UK and India,,which goes for the main chemical in illegal Meth, and a chemical that my broncial dialators are made from which is still an experimental here in Thailand.

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    We use Dumex.
    It's a bit more expensive than the rest but Tayto junior just wouldn't let go of the breast milk for anything else at one year old.
    I know it's not always possible but I think giving him breast milk for the first year is a great start to life
    and really there is no subtitute for the real thing.
    Good luck with getting her of the breast milk.
    You'll never plough a field by turning it over in your mind.

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    you will need an infant first 6 month formula
    then a 6 month to 1 year formula
    after which you can change to cow's milk or a 1 year plus formula
    depends how much solids they take

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayto
    We use Dumex.
    The wife has been mumbling about that brand

    Thanks all

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayto
    I know it's not always possible but I think giving him breast milk for the first year is a great start to life and really there is no subtitute for the real thing.
    I read it quite recently, maybe over the last few days or so, that it's been proven that breast milk is no more benificial than powdered milk. I hope someone can provide the link or I'm going to look stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayto View Post
    We use Dumex.
    It's a bit more expensive than the rest but Tayto junior just wouldn't let go of the breast milk for anything else at one year old.
    I know it's not always possible but I think giving him breast milk for the first year is a great start to life
    and really there is no subtitute for the real thing.
    Good luck with getting her of the breast milk.
    ^that's it! breast milk if mum can handle it til aged 1, then Dumex.

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    ^^I guess most manufactores,sp would claim that

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    Breast is best

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    Got it. Daily Mail UK in the Health section dated 7 January.

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    'something' - 26

    Not sure... It's in Thai.

    We tried another one that took her off breast milk but changed because she wasn't shitting enough.

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    Sorry for the long article, read it if you want.

    Breast Milk vs Formula


    One of the very first decisions new parents make, even before the baby is born, is how to feed their infant. Many health experts agree that breastfeeding is the ideal way, for optimum nutrition. Specifically, the American Dietetic Association (ADA) recommends that babies be breastfed exclusively for the first six months and then breastfed with complementary foods for at least twelve months. For those women not able to breastfeed or who choose not to, today's infant formulas provide a good, nutritious alternative. Most are manufactured to be easy for babies to digest and to provide all the nutrition an infant needs.
    Essential: One advantage to breast milk is the protective substances it contains that help protect the baby from various infections. One such substance, called "colostrum," is a yellowish premilk substance secreted in the first few days after a woman delivers. It is believed to carry even more antibodies to help fight infection and is also rich in protein and zinc.
    Advantages of Breastfeeding
    Infants who are breastfed until they are satisfied, and infants who are fed a standard formula and whose mothers are in tune to their cues of hunger and satiety, will generally adjust their own intake to meet their calorie needs. There can be many advantages to breastfeeding your newborn baby. Breast milk seems to be the perfect form of nutrition for a human baby's delicate digestive system. All of breast milk's components, including lactose, protein (whey and casein), and fat, are easily digested by a newborn's immature system. Commercial formulas attempt to reproduce these ingredients and are coming quite close, though the exact combination cannot be duplicated. Breast milk contains the vitamins and minerals that a newborn requires, and breastfed babies supposedly have fewer allergies later in life.
    Since breast milk is easily and quickly digested, breastfed babies sometimes tend to eat more often than formula-fed babies. This can be tiring for Mom, but it does not take long for these babies to feed less frequently and to sleep through the night. Breastfeeding can require quite a bit of commitment from a mother, especially for new moms who go back to work outside of the home or who are separated from their babies from time to time for other reasons. In these cases, a breast pump may be used to collect breast milk. Some mothers are able to breastfeed most of the time and use bottle feedings at other times.
    Advantages of Formula Feeding
    There can also be advantages to formula-feeding your newborn baby. Commercially prepared infant formulas can be a nutritious and more convenient alternative to breastfeeding, and they even contain iron.
    Fact: Iron-fortified infant formulas have actually been credited for the declining incidence of anemia in infants. For this reason, the American Academy of Pediatrics highly recommends that mothers who are not breastfeeding use an iron-fortified infant formula.
    Today's commercial formula products are manufactured under strict, sterile conditions, and producers do attempt to duplicate the ingredients found in breast milk. It would be virtually impossible for a mother to create a formula at home with the same complex combination of proteins, sugars, fats, vitamins, and minerals that a baby needs and that are present in commercial formulas. If you do not breastfeed your baby, use only a commercially prepared formula.
    Some women feel that bottle-feeding their infant gives them a little more freedom and that other members of the family can be more active in the feeding and care of the infant. Just as breastfeeding has its unique demands, so does bottle-feeding. The main demands of bottle-feeding are organization and preparation. You need to make sure you have enough formula on hand, and bottles must be prepared very carefully. The bottles and nipples must be kept sanitary and ready for when you need them.
    The baby's bottle should be warmed just slightly before feeding. Never heat a bottle of formula in a microwave! The formula can heat unevenly and leave hot spots, which can burn a baby's mouth. A microwave can also heat the formula too much, making it too hot for an infant's mouth. The best way is to heat water in the microwave, take the water out, and then heat the bottle in the water. Always test the formula to make sure it is not too hot.
    Bottle-feeding can be more costly. The decision to breastfeed or bottle-feed your baby should be based on your comfort level with breastfeeding—as well as on your lifestyle. Essential: If bottles are left out of the refrigerator for longer than one hour, or if the baby doesn't finish a bottle, the contents should be discarded. Prepared formula bottles should be stored in the refrigerator for no longer than twenty-four hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawlins
    'something' - 26
    S 26 Wife mentioned that aswell. Seems she has done her homework

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    appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayto
    I know it's not always possible but I think giving him breast milk for the first year is a great start to life and really there is no subtitute for the real thing. Good luck with getting her of the breast milk.
    Sound right, but the mother refused to raise the kid, so I had to do what ever I could.

    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    after which you can change to cow's milk or a 1 year plus formula depends how much solids they take
    Have to do what ebver you can and thik best.

    Quote Originally Posted by superman
    that it's been proven that breast milk is no more benificial than powdered milk. I hope someone can provide the link or I'm going to look stupid.
    I think you are right, and seems to be a no brainer to me..

    Quote Originally Posted by helge
    I guess most manufactores,sp would claim that
    Sure they will,,they have a product to sell, the give a fuck about the kid.
    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    Breast is best

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