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    Be careful guys. Even though I’m on top of his ignore list, he can still see and comment on my posts, and the old fishwife is dispensing unqualified advice again.

    His reputation for drugs and human anatomy is based on the fact that his dad used to be a pharmacist, and reading Wikipedia. This and his online mims subscription keeps him up to date.LD knows all there is to know about medicine and drugs.

    My father was clinically diagnosed with Alzheimer’s in his early sixties. He died at 67 of heart failure. His diet was mainly liquid, but for the last 5 years of his life, he only left the house if mum forgot to lock the doors.

    Like my old man, I’m a smoker and I have always enjoyed a drink. Moving to Asia 10 years ago probably made a big difference, as my body does not enjoy bottled chemical lagers. Had I stayed in the west, drinking 5 or 6 pints of bitter, three times a week, would have got me by now.

    Sadly for LD, I’m much smarter and sharper than he’d like to think I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Really?

    Here is a link to the USA data for Alzheimer's distribution by age:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...oup-in-the-us/

    Approximately 81% of Alzheimers patients are aged 75 and above (USA data).

    Here is data for heart attacks (USA data):

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20373106

    Age. Men age 45 or older and women age 55 or older are more likely to have a heart attack than are younger men and women.

    So, show where I am "grossly inaccurate" - you can find your own data links, and I will look it over.

    Or, if you have nothing of substantive value to add, fuck off back to your pseudo-erudite reviews of fucking shopping mall pizza joints you pretentious fuckwad.
    Agreed. Another one with an over inflated opinion of himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post

    My father was clinically diagnosed with Alzheimer’s in his early sixties. He died at 67 of heart failure.
    My Dad had early onset dementia (probably not Alzheimer's, but Alzheimer's is just one of the age related dementias, although the most common). As I have posted before, mercifully cancer took him fairly painlessly before the dementia got too bad. He was still at the stage where he would ask the same question four or five times in a row in the space of ten minutes. But late stage dementia is horrific, both for the sufferer and the family. I am fairly sure to go out with a nice, swift heart attack. I could think of no greater nightmare than to be elderly in Thailand with significant dementia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    The major factor imho. At 75 I feel fit. Eat what I want when I want. Been smoking for 61 years and like my granddad will probably live to a century. If not, then so be it. We are all gonna croak. Might as well enjoy the time we have be it short or long.
    Exactly Norton. People become obsessed with health and numbers to the point it makes them sick stressing over it.

    We all die so live it how you want. Being miserable to live longer is silly. At old age who cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Exactly Norton. People become obsessed with health and numbers to the point it makes them sick stressing over it.

    We all die so live it how you want. Being miserable to live longer is silly. At old age who cares.
    Well, I am 58, so not particularly in "old age". Even surviving the immediate heart attack I had a 1 in 5 chance of dying within 12 months. So, for me, personally, those numbers are quite important. I would like to see my youngest graduate college before popping off this mortal coil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Originally Posted by nidhogg
    My other take is that Alzheimers gets you in your 80s, heart attacks in your 50s and 60s......
    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Approximately 81% of Alzheimers patients are aged 75 and above
    ...you generalized to include the whole population...your data is limited to the ages of Alzheimer patients only...as for heart attack victims: you generalized once again to the whole population...not, as your data suggests, the mere likelihood that older folks are more prone to heart attacks than younger folks...


    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    if you have nothing of substantive value to add, fuck off back to your pseudo-erudite reviews of fucking shopping mall pizza joints you pretentious fuckwad
    ...I understand your fear of suffering, death, and...um...accuracy, but there's no need to bring pizza into it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Well, I am 58, so not particularly in "old age". Even surviving the immediate heart attack I had a 1 in 5 chance of dying within 12 months. So, for me, personally, those numbers are quite important. I would like to see my youngest graduate college before popping off this mortal coil.
    I get that but numbers are numbers. . People try and live their lives to those numbers and what people forget is those are an average over a huge distribution of variables. So sure looking at them is Ok. Chasing them is another.

    Btw, sorry to hear about the heart attack. One thing about having children young, they grow up when you are in your prime so no worries about legging it out to see them graduate before you check out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...you generalized to include the whole population......
    That's what generalization is you muppet.

    Now do be a good boy and fuck off eh?

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    I had porridge for breakfast with a handful of nuts so I'm good for another six months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    I had porridge for breakfast with a handful of nuts
    You are as young as who you feel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    You are as young as who you feel
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    with a handful of nuts
    So I've heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    People try and live their lives to those numbers and what people forget is those are an average over a huge distribution of variables
    ...indeed, poor Niddy seems to have forgotten...

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    Bad cholesterol was raised after living in Myanmar and I was starting to get a gut! Got that down to ever so slightly raised and nearly got the beer gut gone here in Mongolia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Got that down to ever so slightly raised
    ...is Viagra available in UB?...

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    ^ You can buy benzos and roids over the counter, so I'm guessing yes

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    I Had my cholesterol checked last week in thailand
    I was shocked at the results, I have being a Vegetarian for almost a year, and I thought it would had made a significant difference. I even stopped taking my statins two months ago.I have also stopped taking my BP medication and my blood pressure has being consistently good. so i thought it would had also improved my Cholesterol.
    No red meat, chicken or pork, and no dairy products. I eat fish , mostly Salmon.
    I was so shocked I took the test four days later at a different lab
    First Lab
    Cholesterol 204
    HDL 39
    LDL 131

    Second Lab
    Cholesterol 209
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    LDL 118

    How can there be such a difference in the LDL with in four days? are these walkin labs in Thailand accurate?

    Just returned to the US and I will have my Cardiologist review the results and possibly having the test redone.
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    COMPONENT YOUR VALUE STANDARD RANGE
    Cholesterol 187 mg/dL <=239 mg/dL
    Triglyceride 136 mg/dL <=499 mg/dL
    HDL 44 mg/dL >=40 mg/dL
    Low density lipoprotein calculated 116 mg/dL <=159 mg/dL
    These values are with 40mg of Lovastatin. My question at seventy is when do I stop the statin and start smoking again. Having lost both of my parents with no notice (pneumonia and a heart attack) and having been responsible for my aunt as she slipped farther and farther into Alzeheimers I know which way I would prefer to go but my worry is between my wife's Buddhism and being worth much more alive than dead (Social Security and a local agency pension, both inflation adjusted) I fear a long decline in an air conditioned room in the Isan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudcat View Post
    I fear a long decline in an air conditioned room in the Isan.
    ...add internet and you've described a number of posters here...

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    ^ *nervous laughter* 55 I think...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudcat View Post
    I fear a long decline in an air conditioned room in the Isan
    That's the crux of it, No? I know so many that are friggen pissed off on their diet and med program they are not really enjoying life but when they visit their doc for a check up, they says God job!! the results look good. What are they chasing? If its long life what good is it if the quality is terrible and the person is miserable.

    I will die when I die, Until then I am living it exactly how I want. All in moderation of course, except for Tequila....

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    My philosophy:



    Never had a bad cholesterol reading meself - genetics play a role. Family history and all that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...indeed, poor Niddy seems to have forgotten...
    You really have got no clue have you? Across the population, people start to have heart attacks a decade or more on average than they start to see the onset of Alzheimer's.

    Sheesh, its not that difficult a concept, even a conceited twerp like you should by now have started to see some light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    You really have got no clue have you?
    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    even a conceited twerp like you should by now have started to see some light.
    ...calm down Nid love: think of your youngest's graduation ceremony...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...you generalized to include the whole population...your data is limited to the ages of Alzheimer patients only...as for heart attack victims: you generalized once again to the whole population...not, as your data suggests, the mere likelihood that older folks are more prone to heart attacks than younger folks...


    ...I understand your fear of suffering, death, and...um...accuracy, but there's no need to bring pizza into it...
    Flippant and dismissive as usual. This is why you are so annoying.

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