Thread: High blood pressure. Any advice？

Originally Posted by Airportwo

A recent article I read stated that in many of the old working class areas of the UK life expectancy was now 64, the same as Ethiopia! Someone isn't telling the truth?

I think I've found out who...

Life expectancy for newborn boys in England and Wales was highest in Kensington and Chelsea, at around 83 years. It was lowest in Blackpool at almost 75 years.

It's the gap between the wealthiest and the poorest that is widening.

https://fullfact.org/health/life-exp...y-and-poverty/

Originally Posted by Cujo

Are you talking about me? choo must be talking about me cause there's no one else here.
Anyway I've cut the beer way down as I said, going to the gym or doing a 5 k powerwalk everyday along with
some weight training and watching what I eat. Living on chicken breasts and salads, no pasta , very little bread Oatmeal porridge and a banana for breakfast, chicken salad samich on wholemeal bread for lunch, chicken breast and either salad or mixed green vegetables for dinner. I've lost 4 kg since I started this thread , would be more except a couple of blowouts along the way. (two big beer sessions and 2 Mcdonalds pigouts.)
I should get another BP reading. I feel great though.

APPLAUSE!! Well done!

Originally Posted by Airportwo

One thing that will help you greatly & if it has been mentioned I apoligise is some good supplements, the fallacy that if you eat well you get all the nutrients you need used to be true, now food is grown for profit not health, a lot of nutrients that you think you are getting are not present, magnesium is high on this list, if your not taking one get a good quality supplement.

Well varied raw vegan covers most everything, except...(from what I judge as good authority) = Omega 3s and Vit D.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Are you talking about me? choo must be talking about me cause there's no one else here.
Anyway I've cut the beer way down as I said, going to the gym or doing a 5 k powerwalk everyday along with
some weight training and watching what I eat. Living on chicken breasts and salads, no pasta , very little bread Oatmeal porridge and a banana for breakfast, chicken salad samich on wholemeal bread for lunch, chicken breast and either salad or mixed green vegetables for dinner. I've lost 4 kg since I started this thread , would be more except a couple of blowouts along the way. (two big beer sessions and 2 Mcdonalds pigouts.)
I should get another BP reading. I feel great though.

Glad you feel better.

My comment on your diet. Portion size. Too me it sounds like a lot of food and key is eat when you are hungry not to a clock. Many as I have known started eating out of boredom. Discipline is key.

I have a Banana or orange for bfast before I go exercise then bike ride. Lunch I tend to eat heavier and dinner is quite small because I usually bust my ass out in the yard in the early evening. I have an Iced Green tea with Lemon and honey every day after lunch. Fresh leave Green Tea is quite good for you. I do not smoke and never have. I drink alcohol in moderation but never drink beer. Loaded with calories and tons of sodium.

My challenge here in Thailand is avoiding salt. My wife has gotten better about it but FFS everything they add is loaded with it. I told my wife just add more chilis. I can eat seriously spicey food and love it but struggle with over salted food.

Originally Posted by Airportwo

One thing that will help you greatly & if it has been mentioned I apoligise is some good supplements, the fallacy that if you eat well you get all the nutrients you need used to be true, now food is grown for profit not health, a lot of nutrients that you think you are getting are not present, magnesium is high on this list, if your not taking one get a good quality supplement.

Yeah nah.

Originally Posted by JPPR2

I disagree. Look at the world. Chinese, Japanese, Filipino's, Thais, Australians, English.....All those societies have become lazy, over weight and taking meds. Every hospital I see in Thailand is PACKED with people. In fact most have waiting lines. I doubt they are going in to say "Hello Doc Just wanted to drop by and see how you are doing"

Agree on this, for PI. Lots of heart disease & related illnesses for Filipinos. The times when I accompanied my dad for a visit to his cardiologist (he wasn't very mobile & needed assistance after his stroke), there were always long lines. Long queues too for other doctors' offices. Sedentary, office bound lifestyles, fast, oily & processed food, not enough exercise - all factors leading to heart disease. It's not just a 1st world problem.

Had a chat with a friend. Her cousin, a male call center agent, had a heart attack at 35. He was just having a meal with his GF, then couldn't breathe. Then was rushed to hospital and placed in the ICU.

The call center industry is big here, lots of employees. The employees are notorious to have poor eating habits - always eating junk food since they have office at night (to operate on US time). Only fast food outlets & 7/11s are open at night, so they develop unhealthy habits. They seldom exercise too, as they sleep during the day. I know several ppl who worked in that industry - some left due to the irregular work hours, no family/ social time & unhealthy habits.

According to talk/seminar that I've heard, the number of HIV cases increased too, in recent years, in part due to call centers, but that's another story...

Originally Posted by katie23

The employees are notorious to have poor eating habits - always eating junk food since they have office at night (to operate on US time). Only fast food outlets & 7/11s are open at night, so they develop unhealthy habits. They seldom exercise too, as they sleep during the day. I know several ppl who worked in that industry - some left due to the irregular work hours, no family/ social time & unhealthy habits.

I lived in the Philippines in the early eighties for three years, back then they had the worse diet know to mankind! Lord only knows what it is like now?
You don't see many Philipino restaurants on your travels thats for sure.
Do share with us why HIV cases have increased?

Originally Posted by JPPR2

I drink alcohol in moderation but never drink beer.

Really? That's not the JPPR2 we've all grown to know and love on TD. Someone's hacked yer account!

People change. Years ago when he first joined TD he said he would never get married.

I think that experience with the chicken ranch being created next door must have softened the poor lad's mind.

Everything's wearing out, but nothing wrong with my memory.

Leeches

Or perhaps there is actually something to be said for blood-letting ?

Hard pulse disease treatment: Blood letting and the application of leeches.

And specially for AntRobertson : mild trepannation.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

And specially for AntRobertson : mild trepannation.

Could be useful to several members.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Really? That's not the JPPR2 we've all grown to know and love on TD. Someone's hacked yer account!

Well I consider it moderation...That of course could be open to interpretation.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

People change. Years ago when he first joined TD he said he would never get married.

I think that experience with the chicken ranch being created next door must have softened the poor lad's mind.

Everything's wearing out, but nothing wrong with my memory.

Yeah I remember saying that. I don't know if I softened up but I did meet a pretty cool gal. Just had our 6th year anniversary a few weeks ago. We met in 2010. If we make it 10 years I call it a win...

Originally Posted by Cujo

I've lost 4 kg since I started this thread

No one likes a show off

Well done.

Originally Posted by Dillinger

No one likes a show off

cept' me, of course

Originally Posted by JPPR2

. I drink alcohol in moderation but never drink beer. Loaded with calories and tons of sodium.

.

Had to check that one out. Beer does not have "tons" of sodium. Average in 1 can of beer seems to be around 14mgs of sodium. For comparison water has 4mgs on average, and as I have posted before a small can of tomato juice can have up to 980mgs of sodium.

The daily recommended intake is 2,400mgs.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

The daily recommended intake is 2,400mgs

Average 4,000mg consumed per day in Thailand accordinging to the WHO. Any wonder high blood pressure is a major problem here.

Originally Posted by Norton

Average 4,000mg consumed per day in Thailand accordinging to the WHO. Any wonder high blood pressure is a major problem here.

Did not know that - just looked and average US is 3,400mgs, so the Thais are motoring.

(and I notice I made a mistake - daily recommended is 2,300mgs)

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Had to check that one out. Beer does not have "tons" of sodium. Average in 1 can of beer seems to be around 14mgs of sodium. For comparison water has 4mgs on average, and as I have posted before a small can of tomato juice can have up to 980mgs of sodium.

The daily recommended intake is 2,400mgs.

Let me clarify. In the states with all the "Custom" beers being made I read up and they had a lot more sodium versus maybe a Chang or Leo Lager. But they have a descent amount and if you clip off 7 or 8 beers a day that's a lot of additional sodium and worse is calories.

As for tomato juice, its terrible. Canned soups are # 1 for sodium from what I read. Does not surprise me.

I am taking my FIL to CM mid next week to have some neurological check on him as he has been experiencing a worsening numbness in his legs. When I am there I will ask the nurse to check my BP. Its always fun to ask. They smile and say sure. Next month my wife and I are heading back to the states for a month or so. I will check my BP at every CVS or Rite aid I see. They have those free state of the art machines right next to the pharmacy.

Originally Posted by PAG

Screenshot of this morning's reading on my phone:

Aaah, the classic "i'm a smug complacent cvunt who is about to die soon" reading. Time you found a good cardiologist but sort the coffin stuff first.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Aaah, the classic "i'm a smug complacent cvunt who is about to die soon" reading. Time you found a good cardiologist but sort the coffin stuff first.

You should stay away from Brexit threads.
You are more likely to end up on the local 7/11 steps at 5 am sucking on a Chang, than Pag is. Silly old duffer.