Thread: Give Up The Cigs...

Originally Posted by Storekeeper

There was a long running thread about smoking many moons ago here on TD. Was searching for it a few weeks back but no joy.

Anal Andy and Latindancer didn't approve so made sure it got binned.

Down to one a day.

I have it in the evening. I nearly fucking fall over from the nicotine hit.

My eventual goal is one or two a week.

I started smoking fairly young(14), and was hardcore (1-2 packs a day) for nearly 20 twenty years, Camels, Lucky's, Chesterfield, Pall Mall, Gitanes, Gauloises, Drum.
I loved the whole ritual of smoking.
It took many tries to quit, and then I had cravings for five years, until a trip to Paris where I was on the verge of picking up again every waking moment. After that trip the cravings disappeared.

Very tough addiction to kick ime.

To those trying to quit; hang in there, it's tough, it's possible, and doable.

I've been a non smoker nearly 30 years now.

Except for the occasional

Originally Posted by ENT

Lobelia chinensis

Thai name for it is;

พันธุ์ไม้ชนิดหนึ่ง
Phạnṭhu̒ mị̂ chnid h̄nụ̀ng

^ That's an error, ENT. All that says is "one variety of plant". It doesn't mention lobelia.


According the the website below, the name in Thai is - พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก

http://www.qsbg.org/database/botanic...otanic_id=2276

Never smoked regularly, but tried it a few times when growing up and I think my lungs appreciate that fact.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Lobelia chinensis

Thai name for it is;

พันธุ์ไม้ชนิดหนึ่ง
Phạnṭhu̒ mị̂ chnid h̄nụ̀ng

^ That's an error, ENT. All that says is "one variety of plant". It doesn't mention lobelia.


According the the website below, the name in Thai is - พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก

http://www.qsbg.org/database/botanic...otanic_id=2276

Your offering of พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก meaning lobelia translates to "half moon"....

Mine referred to vegetables including an artichoke, a little closer.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Never smoked regularly, but tried it a few times when growing up and I think my lungs appreciate that fact.

I'll bet.
The biggest killer in cities has to be diesel fumes, I often wear a mask in CM, and try to stay out of the city and away from main roads, clean air on the edge of the paddy fields.

It's only when you stop do you realize how bad it was to smoke.

It might take a few goes at it to be able to finally quit completely and never have another sneaky first fag again, but it's do-able.

Don't beat yourself up if you backslide and have a fag, it'll only make it worse, just recognize what you're doing, ask yourself why, and see the reason to stop, then stop again, rinse and repeat.

I used and still use lobelia mixed with sage to ease and clear my lungs and to boost my CO2/O2 exchange rate when nose-breathing city air through a mask, so needing a far smaller volume of air to sustain me.

A tiny pinch of lobelia powder every few hours, when you feel a craving or thought of having a fag, will make you think you've already had a nicotine hit, so enough, and the urge to have one subsides.

Obesity and smoking both have the same cure.

DONT PUT YOUR HAND NEAR YOUR MOUTH!!!

Fucking genius innit.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by ENT

Lobelia chinensis

Thai name for it is;

พันธุ์ไม้ชนิดหนึ่ง
Phạnṭhu̒ mị̂ chnid h̄nụ̀ng

^ That's an error, ENT. All that says is "one variety of plant". It doesn't mention lobelia.


According the the website below, the name in Thai is - พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก

http://www.qsbg.org/database/botanic...otanic_id=2276

Your offering of พระจันทร์ครึ่งซีก meaning lobelia translates to "half moon"....

Mine referred to vegetables including an artichoke, a little closer.

Only on the Google translate scale of silliness.

I was fortunate that I never liked the smell or taste of smoking so didnt start, now i find it a disgusting habit and do by best to avoid anyone smoking although in spite of my best efforts I occasionally get a lung full of the filth.

It amazes me to see people in a clean mountain or seaside environment deliberately sucking pollution into their own lungs, yes a powerful addiction.

I have lost 5 friends to smoking related illness only one was older than me. I visited him just before he died and he had been sitting in a chair hooked up to an oxygen machine for the previous 3 years, couldnt even lie down or his lungs would flood with fluid. he could manage about 10 steps to the toilet where he would have to sit for half an hour, still attached to his long hose, before he could get back to his chair.

Yes there are those who dont die of it but how many years of your life are you prepared to bet that you will be one of the lucky ones ? More to the point how many years of your childrens lives are you prepared to bet that they wont die of your habit ?

For those who want to give it away, make the decision, take the thing out of your mouth throw it away, be strong and never put another in. Not only will it be good for you but for those around you.

Originally Posted by birding

I have lost 5 friends to smoking related illness only one was older than me. I visited him just before he died and he had been sitting in a chair hooked up to an oxygen machine for the previous 3 years, couldnt even lie down or his lungs would flood with fluid. he could manage about 10 steps to the toilet where he would have to sit for half an hour, still attached to his long hose, before he could get back to his chair.

I knew a woman like that, but she still couldn't stop smoking. Until she died.

As you say, it's a powerful addiction.

Originally Posted by birding

For those who want to give it away, make the decision, take the thing out of your mouth throw it away, be strong and never put another in. Not only will it be good for you but for those around you.

Yup, agreed, as the hand to mouth thing is an old primal habit.

Which is why I suggested to get something to do with your hands to distract you from the hand to mouth aspect of smoking.

If the hand to mouth urge is too strong to ignore, pick up an apple or carrot and start chewing.

I use lobelia or eat something or drink some water.

Wasn't it Dillinger who also posted about his battle to give up ?

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by birding

I have lost 5 friends to smoking related illness only one was older than me. I visited him just before he died and he had been sitting in a chair hooked up to an oxygen machine for the previous 3 years, couldnt even lie down or his lungs would flood with fluid. he could manage about 10 steps to the toilet where he would have to sit for half an hour, still attached to his long hose, before he could get back to his chair.

I knew a woman like that, but she still couldn't stop smoking. Until she died.

As you say, it's a powerful addiction.

Another friend, a heavy smoker had a small stroke, his doctor told him if he didnt stop smoking he would have another within a year that would be fatal, he stopped for 2 days then was back into it. The doctor was right he had a massive stroke 8 months later and died.

A thought; I have a friend who stopped and he said to me "You know I can smell again"

Can any of you who have stopped relate to this ?

I doubt smokers can smell themselves if they could it would be a powerful incentive to stop particularly woman smokers. one of the worst smells to me is a woman who has been smoking and drinking and has doused herself in perfume the combination I find sickening.

Not only that, but your taste buds start working again and everything tastes great, you tend to put on some weight though. I've been on and of the smokes for ages now but lately it's up to 2 packs a day. Time to make up my mind and get serious about quitting again, it's slowly killing me .

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Originally Posted by birding

I doubt smokers can smell themselves if they could it would be a powerful incentive to stop particularly woman smokers. one of the worst smells to me is a woman who has been smoking and drinking and has doused herself in perfume the combination I find sickening.

got to agree even though I'm a smoker me self but that combination of smoke and perfume really is quite dreadful sort of like sniffing a whores handbag?

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Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by birding

I doubt smokers can smell themselves if they could it would be a powerful incentive to stop particularly woman smokers. one of the worst smells to me is a woman who has been smoking and drinking and has doused herself in perfume the combination I find sickening.

got to agree even though I'm a smoker me self but that combination of smoke and perfume really is quite dreadful sort of like sniffing a whores handbag?

More like the smell of a public urinal mixed with lingering tobacco smoke.

Or an ashtray.

Originally Posted by ENT

ENT

I finally gave up tobacco for good on 23rd Dec 2012.

Originally Posted by ENT

It's only when you stop do you realize how bad it was to smoke.

Yet you still consume it occasionally, and void all the health benefits you gained....re-poisoning ourself after having de-toxified.

Originally Posted by ENT

Now, more than three years down the road, I still don't smoke, though I do confess to having slipped up at parties or BBQs as the spliffs go 'round and the good brews are supped.

Doesn't this strike you as contradictory ?

Oh.....rationalization rules all....

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Originally Posted by ENT

ENT I finally gave up tobacco for good on 23rd Dec 2012

Originally Posted by ENT

It's only when you stop do you realize how bad it was to smoke.

Yet you still consume it occasionally, and void all the health benefits you gained....re-poisoning ourself after having de-toxified.

Originally Posted by ENT

Now, more than three years down the road, I still don't smoke, though I do confess to having slipped up at parties or BBQs as the spliffs go 'round and the good brews are supped.

Doesn't this strike you as contradictory ?

Oh.....rationalization rules all....

WTF RU on about, and WTF do you know?

Of course I don't fwkn "consume it occasionally" as you insinuated. This thread's about giving up tobacco, something you apparently never had to do, so any comments coming from you are gonna be bullshit and a waste of time ,.. troll.

D'y'wanna tell us all about your problems about your recently acquired smoking and drinking habits you've mentioned on other threads?

Otherwise stop wasting bandwidth and let those who need to post on this thread do so, instead of us all having to put up with your bitchy trolling.

Originally Posted by patsycat

I still smoke, one of the minorities amongst my friends. Most have started vaping. Which i think is the same as smoking.

Here in Swissland they sell the vape things but it's against the law for them to have nicotine in them. Which is ridiculous, because we can be in France in ten minutes to buy nicotine.

Those e-cigs aren't as bad as standard cigs because you don't get to inhale a load of carbon and other unburnt hydrocarbons continuously as you do with cigarettes. All you inhale is the nicotine vapour, CO, CO2 and NOX. Using an e-cig for vaping hash oil works well, too. Tobacco though stuffs your lungs up as will inhaling any bunt herb ash

The negative effect of nicotine is the way it depletes cellular energy by inhibiting metabolism and slowing down the removal of cellular waste while Vit B and C reserves are depleted.

Originally Posted by ENT

Of course I don't fwkn "consume it occasionally" as you insinuated.

Apparently you do :

Originally Posted by ENT

Now, more than three years down the road, I still don't smoke, though I do confess to having slipped up at parties or BBQs as the spliffs go 'round and the good brews are supped.

Originally Posted by ENT

D'y'wanna tell us all about your problems about your recently acquired smoking and drinking habits you've mentioned on other threads?

Perhaps YOU could tell us about them, as I don't believe they exist.

This is a recent invention by you, to defend yourself by way of irrational attack....a typical ENT manoeuvre.

What does the word "spliff" mean to you shit-head?