Thread: Prostate cancer

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Shit mate, hope you get well.

You doing this in Thailand and if so what was the damage. ?

Best wishes
I was creened in UK a few months ago,need to repat annually I was advised.
I was also warned of false positive misdiagnosis risks,however if otherwise competent I think the more information you have the better,

Good luck to you Eliminator. Hope you have a speedy recovery.

Originally Posted by cptw

Eliminator,

I'm very sorry to hear or the diagnosis and glad you caught it early. Looks like you've done some research and I do not know where you are located, but hope you have investigated all of the options available to you. Forgive me if what follows is unwanted advice and old news to you.

I do not pretend to be an expert - just another man recently diagnosed and it sounds like with a case a bit further along. After my biopsy I was scheduled for surgery and told that there were no other good choices by my urologist (the chair of a major cancer center in the US).

I've since learned otherwise.

Urologists are surgeons - and too often believe that radical prostatectomy is the best or only choice. The hammer sees everything as the nail, sometimes even with the best intentions.

Surgery can be a good choice, but far too many are ordered. For some, depending on the particular stats and mindset, the option of waiting (active surveillance) is the best. If we live long enough, most of us will have some level of prostate cancer. It is not one disease, and for many it is slow and can be managed without radical therapies. Make sure you are not getting unneeded treatment, but do so prudently and with vigilance.

This surgery is serious, one of the most difficult, and the side effects certain initially, and far too often permanent (though usually to a lesser degree). I'm not saying it is wrong for you, but hope you have examined other options and spoken to other specialists. The radiation treatments offered today, available even in Thailand, were not around 10 years ago. They can be every bit as effective and with the right clinic, almost always have a better side effect profile. There are other options still.

I hope you have found the very best surgeon you can. He or she should have years of experience. At least hundreds or better yet over a thousand surgeries using the method that will be employed during yours. There are no machines that remove human error or compensate for inexperience. I've read the same is true no matter what method of treatment you choose, get the best clinician and the best clinic available. Ask hard questions, do your research, do not stop with the direction you get from the first doctor you see. You can trust, but verify.

The advantage you have with prostate cancer is some time to
research, to make up your mind. It is generally slow growing and unless you have an aggressive case (Gleason 8 or better or very a high PSA) with stage two you can take months to figure out what is right for you. With the right scores/cancer volume you may not have to do anything -at least not for years.

I hope this isn't taken the wrong way, but I am in exactly the same spot and am facing the same choices with a worse percentage chance at a cure. You cannot undo the surgery, and none of the treatments are pretty or without risk.

Sorry if this is out of place especially from a member with a piss poor record of posting. Because of my circumstances I'm a bit passionate about it and hope that you and the others here who will encounter this do so with eyes wide open and go for the best choice available. God bless and good luck.

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I do agree with you on this. Far too many surgeries done that are not necessary. I would seek other opinions before approving the surgery.

Best Wishes and Good Luck

Great to see you are on the mend and I wish you a speedy and full recovery.

Just spoke to a naturopath as I have recommended turmeric to a friend in Oz with cancer.
She said that it needs to be taken with a little fatty food (as well as the pepper I mentioned) in order to be fully bioavailable.

glad to hear you are on the mend mate.

Speedy recovery



Will you ride again?



And thanks for the Awareness!

Get well mate, good to see you got it beat

Good luck with the check up.

Best wishes.

Man tough deal. I hope it doesn't come back. I just lost a good friend to cancer. He fought it like a man for four years. Finally succumbed on new years day.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Frank Zappa who contracted it in his 40's I believe and was dead within a year.

Frank Zappa died like he lived, at the speed of light!

Zappa's cancer was festering away for a couple of years, at least. I saw what was probably his last interview on Youtube....from his hospital bed. From memory, he stated that he felt irritated that he had beeen complaining to his doctor for some time that everything was not well in that area, but they did not discover it was prostate cancer for some time.

On costs: It's around the 100,000 baht mark right now. I'll have to get a translation for all the separate things and I will post it here.

First bill for when I was supposed to go in and couldn't because of the bike wreck: 2890 baht one day.

Second bill was for about 85,000 baht for surgery and other stuff.

Last bill makes up for the last of the 100,000 baht.

Not sure, have to check with the misses as she takes care of that, 555 I owe a couple few people but I hope it's all done and it'll just take time to pay it off.

If you have the money to get GOOD insurance, BUY it, you won't regret it and it will save you heaps.

Thanks again to all and I'll you some other tips later and some funny stuff too. ( It was funny to me LOL)

Cheers,

Eli

A friend of mine was diagnosed with prostate cancer last summer, his PSA was in the low teens. After a few months of treatment with cannabis and a change in diet, his oncologist declared him cancer free based on diagnostic tests, his PSA was back in the normal range. Many other men have had similar results, without the side effects of surgery or other invasive treatments. Here's a link to his story.

Tommy Chong Beats Prostate Cancer with Hemp Oil and Proper Diet - Waking Times : Waking Times

I could refer you to sources in states or countries where it's legal if you're interested in traveling there.

^ Hey YNH, I wish I had caught it earlier but my PSA was 18 and my prostate was hard and the biopsy showed it was there. Too late now, the deal is done. LOL

Wish I could get the hemp oil too. 555

I get full blood checks done twice a year. Costs piss all and can catch this stuff in the early stages.

Originally Posted by Eliminator

^ Hey YNH, I wish I had caught it earlier but my PSA was 18 and my prostate was hard and the biopsy showed it was there. Too late now, the deal is done. LOL

Wish I could get the hemp oil too. 555

Ganja is readily available here in LOS if you want it.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Ganja is readily available here in LOS if you want it.

I know that, I'm just paranoid about getting caught more than anything else. If I got caught, I would lose everything that really matters to me (wife and daughter).

I'm sure it would help the pain issues also. 555

Good to see that you back El & yes stay away from the weed, it's not worth it.
Stay well mate

Great to see you are still your old self and in good spirits my friend.

You certainly have a lovely family backing you as well and give them our best regards.