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    ^ What about walking Thai with nets

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharleyFarley
    We bought 1000 pink fingerlings and a few weeks later they all suddenly disappeared from our pond.
    I lost 100 TapTim to a single PlaChon fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharleyFarley View Post
    I'll try to be concise.

    If the pond has stagnant water that is not easy to refresh, and is only 1.5 metres deep, what is the most productive fish to farm?

    Given the above , is there an easy and cheap way of oxygenating the water if necessary?
    Dalton has an idea but ideally you could purchase some spa jets and install them on a row of pipes and run the pump water through them, they in turn will produce an air injected system of fresh agitating aeration along with flowing water..

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    I have seen in the southern states of the USA in catfish ponds, a raft like affair with a double shaft motor and a set of paddle wheels on the shaft and as the motor spins it throws water in the air and churns up a lot of water and does a good job of aeration.

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    ^
    They use those aerators a lot in thailand for shrimp farming.

    ( Don't mention the USA one's again because the Thais think they invented it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crabfat
    I had thought about doing this using 4 x 4 metre tanks split in half so that you can get to the fish easier. I though 4 of those in a row on a small downslope so that the water flows into each tank and using the first tank as a filter and pumping the dirty water back into the filyer tank. I have access to the moo ban water from the government but I think the tanks will need topping up on a daily basis. Do you think that would work? I have done some drawings in excel but due to my low number of posts I am not allowed to add attachments. Sorry.
    You have the right idea, for small recirculation system, try to have a look on the thread called "my farm used for final project" there's some pics of the setup I have. You can email your drawings to me, I'll send you a PM wit my mail.

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    Did that this afternoon.

    My mate is telling me something about a government fish place at Bung Boraphet near Nakhon Sawan. Does it ring any bells with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    ( Don't mention the USA one's again because the Thais think they invented it)
    Sorry, my bad....

    But they use them also at the settling ponds where they have to treat water at the papermills in the North west before they can dump it back into the rivers.

    I forgot about them, as I have seen them a lot up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    ^
    They use those aerators a lot in thailand for shrimp farming.

    ( Don't mention the USA one's again because the Thais think they invented it)
    Yeah this was what I was referring to when I posted about my trip to China in Dalton's other thread..But this is too elaborate and a bit of overkill for the smaller ponds being described here..

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    ^ Why would that be so, it is cheap and does the job fairly well and not to much bother.
    And seems that they already know how to make em.

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    Some thai aerators here.
    Model RX7 only uses a single hp motor

    http://www.rid.go.th/eng/Water%20Treatment%20Work.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    ^ Why would that be so, it is cheap and does the job fairly well and not to much bother.
    And seems that they already know how to make em.
    Yeah but BG they fling a lot of water.. Not a very beneficial result in small areas where you have to replenish water, they also induce more evaporation too, so from those points in small applications it is better to have a smaller aerator for injection with out so much agitation. I don't mind telling you that here in Thailand I would be highly dubious of the safety factor having one of those 220V motors suspended over the water like that with the electric having to be run through it as well..

    My frigging microwave shocks the piss out of me if I ever touch it without slippers on or stand on a mat so I certainly wouldn't want to have any contact with something like this anywhere near water..

    But hey I already suggested it before so I'm not entirely shooting it down either, I just don't think it is a good application in these smaller cases..
    Silent but deadly.....

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    sounds like you need 3 wire service in your shack and grounded plug ins,, I did that when we built this place, now no shoes and touch anything,, but we also wear shoes mostly or at least slippers inside.

    But replacing a little water wouldn't hurt anything either, but we have no water well and can't get one so it better rain, and I am going to add more storage this year,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Driventowin
    My frigging microwave shocks the piss out of me if I ever touch it without slippers
    Have you tried turning the plug the other way around ?
    Sometimes it stops that. Sorry off topic, carry on fellows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Driventowin
    My frigging microwave shocks the piss out of me if I ever touch it without slippers
    Have you tried turning the plug the other way around ?
    Sometimes it stops that. Sorry off topic, carry on fellows
    Yeah I know the polarity gets switched here all too often and the problem with turning the plug around is it doesn't work if anything else is plugged into it, because you get feed back through the other appliance, something is always backwards if you know what I mean? I don't own this place and it is common everywhere here in Thailand to have this problem.. This place is better than most they do have some grounded outlets but not every one..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Driventowin
    Yeah I know the polarity gets switched here all too often
    Yes, 50 times per second. Or in other terms 50 Hz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Driventowin
    This place is better than most they do have some grounded outlets but not every one..
    Are they actually grounded with a thitrd wire or are they just 3 hole plugins so you can not have to cut off the ground lug from the plugs, I have seen that and we have also bought a short cord 3 hole plug strip to take with us when we travel so the wife can plug her laptop in when we are at hotels,, but the cord in it is only 2 prong and no 3rd wire in the strip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharleyFarley
    We bought 1000 pink fingerlings and a few weeks later they all suddenly disappeared from our pond. I know all about walking catfish but nothing about walking fucking tilapia
    No chance of them walking away More likely some Plar-Chon (snake-head) left in the pond, did you see any dead fish ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    I lost 100 TapTim to a single PlaChon fish.
    They are very effective predators..

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    I have seen in the southern states of the USA in catfish ponds, a raft like affair with a double shaft motor and a set of paddle wheels on the shaft and as the motor spins it throws water in the air and churns up a lot of water and does a good job of aeration.
    They are used here in Thailand as well, mostly for shrimp farms through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabfat
    My mate is telling me something about a government fish place at Bung Boraphet near Nakhon Sawan. Does it ring any bells with you?
    I have never been there, but each district in Thailand normally has a department of inland fisheries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang
    Why would that be so, it is cheap and does the job fairly well and not to much bother. And seems that they already know how to make em.
    For shrimp it will work, but not really for Plar Nin, unless you start changing water and fight the problems with increasing ammonia and nitrite as a higher stocking density will create.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Driventowin
    Yeah I know the polarity gets switched here all too often
    Yes, 50 times per second. Or in other terms 50 Hz.
    Wise arse...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Driventowin
    This place is better than most they do have some grounded outlets but not every one..
    Are they actually grounded with a thitrd wire or are they just 3 hole plugins so you can not have to cut off the ground lug from the plugs, I have seen that and we have also bought a short cord 3 hole plug strip to take with us when we travel so the wife can plug her laptop in when we are at hotels,, but the cord in it is only 2 prong and no 3rd wire in the strip.
    Any thing's possible BG, I know everything safety wise here is shite.. With a ground they couldn't reverse the polarity the way they do it would have to be wired properly or it would blow breakers..

    I haven't gone through the house, as I said it's not mine, so no way I'm going to waste my time..I know there is some grounding though because my water heater is grounded and I have seen grounding in the attic where all of the wires are exposed with typical Thai wiring..I noticed the same thing myself about the extension cords here.. Anyway, we're distracting from Dalts thread..

    So back on topic Dalton have you considered installing a few Spa jets on you tank return lines to aerate the water??
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    Pla-chon...yep they're the bastard cluuprits.

    We found several of them floundering outside the pond after heavy rains. Bigger than my forearms..2 Kgs +

    They can jump/flip like buggery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharleyFarley View Post
    Pla-chon...yep they're the bastard cluuprits.

    We found several of them floundering outside the pond after heavy rains. Bigger than my forearms..2 Kgs +

    They can jump/flip like buggery.
    Yeah they've become a real problem in the States too. They can move from pond to pond out of the water for a period of time when their food source gets decimated, kind of like a walking cat fish..

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