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    BIP,
    Something to consider. I did a drainage pipe off the house for rain water that ran to our wall and along it where the hedges are.. I drilled numerous holes at the sides and bottom so that water would leach out along the pipe and water the plants versus funneling it all away. Kind of like a Leach field pipe in the states. I also used much smaller diameter pipe then you pictured.

    Nice Job btw

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    BIP, you have been a busy fellow. Rather you than me in this heat, I once helped a mate back in NSW put in 100m of drainage, even using a trench digger and the proper perforated piping that was bad enough.
    But I know it has to be done before the rains start !
    What was wrong with the geotextile ? I have read a few people say that it was almost impossible to get here and they had to use shade cloth, but I have seen it available at SCG although I don't know what it actually looked like.
    regards, Mike
    (looking forward to moving out of Bangkok soon, and at least being able to start on our garden if not the house)

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    Hi Mikenot, it was quite flimsy and looked patchy. But to its credit I couldn't tear it and a bread knife more blunt than sharp wouldn't cut it. Had to get some reasonable quality kitchen scissors from the house. I did another 12 meters this afternoon and by my estimate I've done 23 meters, somewhere around 130-145 to go. We didn't work this morning and started about 2:00pm. Ran out of cable ties again so fence not quite finished. Turned our attention back to the drainage and worked till 6:00pm. Was still 38 degrees but the humidity today was significantly less than the past week. Only drank 3.2 litres of water this afternoon, have been getting through three large bottles totalling 4.8 litres most afternoons. Regards, - BiP
    Quote Originally Posted by mikenot View Post
    BIP, you have been a busy fellow. Rather you than me in this heat, I once helped a mate back in NSW put in 100m of drainage, even using a trench digger and the proper perforated piping that was bad enough.
    But I know it has to be done before the rains start !
    What was wrong with the geotextile ? I have read a few people say that it was almost impossible to get here and they had to use shade cloth, but I have seen it available at SCG although I don't know what it actually looked like.
    regards, Mike
    (looking forward to moving out of Bangkok soon, and at least being able to start on our garden if not the house)

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    Drains Update 29 April 2019

    We managed to extend the east boundary drain 12 meters this afternoon and have reached the point on that boundary where the water will be delivered back to the ground and gravity will take it onto our neighbours property into a natural depression and over the escarpment to the north of us. Will do that piece of work in a couple of days. Things went well today although the first extra four meter pipe was not sitting well and I discovered an old broken off fence post it was sitting on. So out came the heavy digging bar and I attacked it for 5-10 minutes. After that I laid the three lengths of pipe, back-filled the trench with clean gravel and then added a layer of soil. The wife then came along and planted red flowering Rubiacene on it every 30 centimeters. Final step was to go to the other side of the boundary fence and put soil against the bottom mesh portion of it.

    This is the end of the transport pipe on the east boundary. Over the next four meters the water will enter a capped pipe with a double row of holes on the boundary side. This will deliver the water to the ground and onto the neighbouring property.
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    Shoved a hose into the top end and turned it on. Sure enough got a flow. Just goes to show a useless guy armed with a decent spirit level can actually take advantage of gravity.
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    And the wife doing her bit with the planting. Really like the way the east boundary has come together. Three months ago you may remember it had an old concrete post and barbed wire fence than was encroached by seventeen teak tree stumps. This has taken a lot of time and effort to fix. The longest time however was probably me staring at it for weeks deciding first what to do and secondly, how to do it.
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    Our vegetable gardens are still producing. Some items like most of the zucchinis we lost to pests. But we are regularly harvesting long beans, tomatoes and lettuce. We are going to persist being organic even though the vinegar and citrus peel pest mix does not seem to not be deterring the pests much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganInParasite View Post
    though the vinegar and citrus peel pest mix does not seem to not be deterring the pests much.
    Chickens and ducks are insect terminators.

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    You need lao khao and tobacco.

    Soak the tobacco in the lao khao and spray on.

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    And if that dosn't work, smoke the tobacco and drink the lao khao. You'll still have the insects but you'll care a lot less about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganInParasite View Post
    ... Some items like most of the zucchinis we lost to pests.
    Easy to stay organic with the pest sprays.

    This link to Gardening Australia have, at home, organic Pesticides and Herbicides options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganInParasite View Post
    Folded the geotextile fabric across the top of the pipe and trench.
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    Two comments/suggestions re the photo above ...

    With that concrete/steel post interface, any thoughts for a decorative cover?



    ^ Doesn't have to be that. I just wanted to convey the concept, not your specific solution.

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    For your drainage, no sock covered ag pipe available?

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    Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago ...


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    I'm doing that on the northern boundary JPPR2 although any decent volume of water arriving in heavy rain will be funnelled down to the retaining wall corner in the north west corrner of the block. Regards, - BiP
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    BIP,
    Something to consider. I did a drainage pipe off the house for rain water that ran to our wall and along it where the hedges are.. I drilled numerous holes at the sides and bottom so that water would leach out along the pipe and water the plants versus funneling it all away. Kind of like a Leach field pipe in the states. I also used much smaller diameter pipe then you pictured.

    Nice Job btw

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    Saw the covered ag pipe David. Smacked my forehead. Had not thought of it and it certainly would have worked for me in the sections of the drainage system where I want to collect water. Too late now though. Regards, -BiP
    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Two comments/suggestions re the photo above ...

    With that concrete/steel post interface, any thoughts for a decorative cover?



    ^ Doesn't have to be that. I just wanted to convey the concept, not your specific solution.

    ---

    For your drainage, no sock covered ag pipe available?


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    Drainage System Update - Morning 30 April 2019

    Today I'm focused on the water collection portion of the east side drain. First thing I did was cut, drill and partially assemble the pipes and connectors. Took just short of a couple of hours. Then I started to look more closely at levels, particularly in relation to the existing pipe already laid. Essentially found that that pipe end was too high but I can't lower it because water going in would flow the wrong way. So realized I needed to raise the input water level in the trench (not yet dug properly) and the pipe. Solution will be to concrete in some blocks in front of the carport concrete edge. I ended the morning roughly positioning the blocks and this afternoon will attempt to concrete them into place. Resting now, too hot to work in the middle of the day.

    Start of day/work photos this morning.
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    Pipes cut, drilled and roughly positioned. Same with the concrete blocks except they will sit in front of the carport concrete and be maybe 10-12 cm above it.
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    Hi Neverna, still catching up on overdue responses...

    After a bit of online research I compiled a list of plants that were said to attract butterflys in Thailand. It was Golden Dew Drop (Duranta Erecta), Pagoda Flower (Clerodendrum Paniculatur), South American (Hamelia), ??? (Ixora), Saraca (Saraca Indica) and Bignay (Antidesma Bunius). After going to two local nurseries and not being able to get a single one of these I was kicked out of the Butterfly and Bee garden by the wife. She planted three types of flowers that have proved popular with the local bees and recently, a butterfly or two. I'm leaving that garden to her from now on. (I'm wise enough to know which battles to fight.) Below and in the next post are some pictures of what she has planted and attracted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Hi BiP,
    That's an interesting and good idea.
    What plants have you planted so far to attract butterflies?
    And what other plants do you plan on getting to attract butterflies?
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    ^ Thanks BiP.

    Some nice plants there. The red flowering Rubiacene is a good choice. They always attract butterflies.

    A small bush I saw recently also attracted butterflies. I do not know what kind it is but it was in Thailand so perhaps your wife will know what it is and be able to source one (if she approves ).


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    We have one of those.

    I don't know what it's called either, but can confirm it's a butterfly magnet. Much more so than anything else in our garden.

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    Thanks Neverna and cyrille...anyone know the name of the flower/plant in post #167. The wife is interested and I've said a few times in the building thread that we take notice of good advice. Regards, -BiP

    EDIT...looks like it is Duranta Erecta...the first one on my list. Going to make another effort to locate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganInParasite View Post
    EDIT...looks like it is Duranta Erecta...the first one on my list. Going to make another effort to locate.
    Hi BiP, I'm not sure if it's is Duranta Erecta. Apparently the leaves on the Duranta Erecta are serrated. The leaves on the bush I saw were not serrated.

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    Bugga...I was comparing the flowers, didn't look at the leaves. But think we are on the right track. I really do want to get the butterflys coming to the garden. There are a lot in the area (we saw as the house was built) and I want to both do them a favour and enjoy the sight. Regards, -BiP
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Hi BiP, I'm not sure if it's is Duranta Erecta. Apparently the leaves on the Duranta Erecta are serrated. The leaves on the bush I saw were not serrated.

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    I'm going to take a trip to a garden centre later today. I'll ask there. I'll probably buy one or two myself if they have any.

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    Drainage System Update - Afternoon 30 April 2019

    Managed position and concrete in (a bit) the first four of eight concrete blocks that will lift the water level up in front of the carport so that it flows into the pipe running towards the east boundary. Will do the other four tomorrow. To kick off the job however a bit of heavy bar work was required to remove some concrete hanging off the carport support. Hell of a way to start work on a hot and humid afternoon. Also decided to start digging the nine meters of trench above it.

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    Have you, or Mrs BIP, planted any hibiscus ? They are butterfly attracting too.

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    Chickens are on the agenda, but so are labradors. As a kid our chickens generally ended up dead if they got into the yard with the dog. Anyone know if labradors can be trained to live with chickens? Regards, -BiP
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