Thread: Bully: He was a good dog.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Am I here right on a thread of Billie Holiday? Why no singing here?

Am a great admirer of Billie Holiday though I personally err towards Ella Fitzgerald, in fact, here's a rendition of hers that will warm the autumnal nasal passages of CCC....

first my heart goes out to BULLY and you and your wife.
if you visit that other planet that has a pet/gardening forum you will soon know who i am.
me/wife have been through it all the past 3yrs.with our beloved SAM,exactly what bully is going through,i will only post for now THE NOSE BLEEDING.and ask what was his PLATELET COUNT.if it [the nose bleeds] continue if at night when you cant get to a vets make up an ice pack [towel and ice cubes]and try to hold it on his forehead and nose.when it happens it will SCARE you into a panic.
once again i feel for you and bully.
maybe its time a pet thread was started along the lines of KEEPING YOUR PETS SAFE.
headhunter A TRULY DOG LOVER.

[QUOTE=Dragonfly94;3819274]Dogs a potential kiddie killer, nasty beasts when you are not looking.[/QUOTE.
this above is the reason WHY I was banished from another planet,responding to BASTARDS LIKE YOU.

Originally Posted by headhunter

headhunter A TRULY DOG LOVER.

What are the similarities?

Do you slobber a lot when aroused?

Originally Posted by cyrille

What are the similarities?

Do you slobber a lot when aroused?

thanks for the reply,many moons ago I loved it DOGGY STYLE.

A MANS BEST FREIND,having been a greyhound trainer besides an owner,i class them as FAMILY,they live with you,eat with you,sleep with you,protect you and are faithfull to the very end.sadly for me and the wife that time came only months ago.its very hard for us to control our emotions especially the wife as she has never had childen and our boy was her baby.
to get back to the topic pag and his wife have to be brave as Thailand has many dangers that are behond control regarding pets.
posting our experiances can come later,its BULLY we have to be concerned about and the findings.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I have a half pit bull and half bull mastif and he is a 54 kg bundle of muscular love with the family but I hate it when he gets out as I fear he may kill someone.

These dogs have an attack mode bred in and they can snap at any time particularly when their master is not around or they feel threatened or are nervous.

Not a negative mate as Bruno is a great guard dog but I never, ever underestimate what he is capable of.

You can say that again! I felt safe from the howling on the other side of the gate, but only till his snout appeared at the bottom trying to force his way out. Also had previous negative encounters with both parts of his breed. As you say, loving but fiery potential.

But good on yer PAG for grasping at best available expertise/facilities. Early in thread yet, and hoping it'll be a happy homecoming for you all.

Good luck to bully.

Looks like he could have run home from the hospital.

Managed to find the external Disk drive for my Mac, here are a couple of the CT scans that were taken. The first is of his nose, where the trauma is in his left nostril.



This one of the damage to his right leg, where you can see there is a substantial amount missing above what I will call his knee.

The tissues in his left nostril looks swollen/inflammed. Hope its not serious. Crossing fingers.....

My pet monkey just died yesterday, so I'm a bit touchy this AM. Someone fed her loads of cheewing gum with candies and stones stuck in it.

thanks pag for posting the x-rays.do you know these breeds have respiratory problems.did you get any feed back from the hospital.knee injury.
also a copy of the C.B.C.as i am totally up to date with KASETSART UNIVERSITY AND ITS BLOOD RANGE so I can compare the findings.
one thing we experienced was these big uni's don't like giving you this info.my wife's last visit to the big one in BKK.my wife after spending 11hrs.there,when they carried out test after test,x-rays,ultra sound the wife asked them for copies,only for the doctor to say WHAT DO YOU NEED THEM FOR.
our boys first nose bleed lasted from 5am.-7pm.very frightening.
just a quick fire question,check for a dead rat who has been poisoned or a snake bite and check the colour of his gums.
there are many reasons why bully got this nose bleeding.
fingers crossed.

[QUOTE=GracelessFawn;3821114]The tissues in his left nostril looks swollen/inflammed. Hope its not serious. Crossing fingers.....

as GF.has pointed out from the x-ray a swollen inflammed left nostril,lets hope this is the cause of the bleeding,A NASAL INFECTION [FUNGUS] bully should have a titer test which will see if his immune system is at risk.

[QUOTE=headhunter;3821753]

Originally Posted by GracelessFawn

The tissues in his left nostril looks swollen/inflammed. Hope its not serious. Crossing fingers.....

as GF.has pointed out from the x-ray a swollen inflammed left nostril,lets hope this is the cause of the bleeding,A NASAL INFECTION [FUNGUS] bully should have a titer test which will see if his immune system is at risk.

I posted a CT scan, though we do have X Ray images as well though these aren't as definitive as CT's. The inflammation is caused by a trauma, what we've yet to have confirmed is whether this has been caused by cancer or not. Tissue samples were taken at the same time as the scan, and results should be received within 3 weeks from then. He has every test possible on the blood samples taken both in Phuket and Hua Hin.

Good news is that he's responded well to the higher strength medication prescribed by the Hospital, with no nasal bleeding for around 36 hours, nor is he limping.

As an aside, Hua Hin have given us all of the reports, tests, and images taken, so that we can share them with our vets in Phuket, as we took all of his Phuket vet records including X Rays to Hua Hin with us for reference.

confirmed is whether this has been caused by cancer or not. Tissue samples were taken at the same time as the scan, and results should be received within 3 weeks from then. He has every test possible on the blood samples taken both in Phuket and Hua Hin.
if like me your not goner get much sleep the next few weeks.its not knowing what it is that has caused me and the wife SO MUCH PAIN they [vets]only cared about how much money they could scam out of us,knowing how much we loved our boy.3yrs.of around 10different clinics and hospitals and bags full of medication left us both without any reason to why we were left heartbroken.much investigating and help from other forums helped us get through the agony,i am sorry we but we have not got ONE good word we can call the vets that treated our beloved.the wife and I will follow bully's progress and pray he comes unscathed.
GOOD LUCK BULLY.

Good news is that he's responded well to the higher strength medication prescribed by the Hospital, with no nasal bleeding for around 36 hours, nor is he limping.

As an aside, Hua Hin have given us all of the reports, tests, and images taken, so that we can share them with our vets in Phuket, as we took all of his Phuket vet records including X Rays to Hua Hin with us for reference.[/QUOTE]

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Sounds like your experiences have not been good ones, however, in our particular case we have complete faith in the professionalism and ethics of both our regular vets (we use PAWS, which is the Phuket Animal Welfare Society - a non profit organisation) and the hospital we used. Having a fairly large number of animals (4 dogs, 6 cats, and until recently a rabbit) and having been clients for 10 years, we're well known to them.

In the case of Hua Hin hospital, whilst they charged us for 2 CT scans (each scan is costed separately), they actually performed 6, i.e. 4 gratis.

No disrespect, but I would rather trust what a Vet advises rather than an anonymous person on a forum.

Originally Posted by PAG

The inflammation is caused by a trauma, what we've yet to have confirmed is whether this has been caused by cancer or not

Out of left field...has the idea of a parasite been considered? A nasal bot (don't think of the modern idea of an internet bot or device, it's an actual general name for some parasites). In NZ, sheep sometimes get a nasal bot which causes trauma and bleeding. The lavae of a type of fly laying their eggs in the warn moist atmosphere of an animal's nasal passage.
Worth asking your vet about if, or even not if, other avenues draw a blank.

Originally Posted by PAG

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Sounds like your experiences have not been good ones, however, in our particular case we have complete faith in the professionalism and ethics of both our regular vets (we use PAWS, which is the Phuket Animal Welfare Society - a non profit organisation) and the hospital we used. Having a fairly large number of animals (4 dogs, 6 cats, and until recently a rabbit) and having been clients for 10 years, we're well known to them.

In the case of Hua Hin hospital, whilst they charged us for 2 CT scans (each scan is costed separately), they actually performed 6, i.e. 4 gratis.

No disrespect, but I would rather trust what a Vet advises rather than an anonymous person on a forum.

I am sorry you feel this way[not trusting an anonymous person on a forum] I only want to help you understand my experience with vets and the service they provide.
you can PM me and I will tell you who I am and what experiance I have with nose bleeding ,then take a week or two to read my posting on another forum.
as for being an anonymous person I am well known on the internet by many pet owners,the late issan birder and a personel friend of ours was the late patsy cat.
so if you are not interested in what info I can maybe help you and bully with I will say NO MORE.

Manatee sends Bully her best wishes for a full recovery

Had to bring closure to this thread. Sadly, Bully passed away this lunchtime. He'd been responding well to the medication that he'd received from the hospital in Hua Hin, and we were planning another trip there next week to have further CT scans done. The tests that he'd had came back negative for cancer, so that was a relief. Also, the nasal bleeding from the trauma in his nose had become less and less. His general health and appetite was otherwise good.

Yesterday he took a turn for the worse, with heavy bleeding from his nose again, and even blood coming from his eye socket. This morning he was having difficulty breathing, and coughing up lumps of matter that had to have come from the nose trauma which has started to disintegrate and probably some of this had been sucked into his windpipe.

We got him to the vet hospital near us this morning, and they'd inserted an endotracheal tube into his mouth to help him, as well as a saline drip. We were with him when he passed, which was actually due to a cardiac arrest.

Obviously a grief stricken moment, and one that we'd never thought we'd have with such a young dog (2 years 9 months).

Some of the matter he was coughing up.



With our 4 month old pup.



and his favourite position.



It's hard to imagine a more fun loving and friendly dog. We'll miss him for sure.

Sorry to hear that.

Losing a pet can be rough.

Damn. That is sad.

Sorry mate.

Damn...sorry to hear that PAG.

That is rough. It's bad enough to lose a dog to old age.

Awwww.

Sorry to read that PAG

R.I.P Bully

Originally Posted by Dillinger

Sorry to read that PAG

R.I.P Bully

+1

He was obviously cherished.

A family member lost.

I wish I knew what to say that wouldn't sound trite....