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    Very nice lawn/turf. I know your post is quite a few years old, but I am curious how the lawn has been holding up. I am moving soon to Udon and need turf for my property too (around 2000m2). Looking forward to hearing from you, tks!

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    Turf prices have risen a lot in the last few years. As has labour and equipment costs. I would be interested in some current costings as well. I reckon soil amendment and seeding will now be much more competitive. Sorry but my vote is always get the soil healthy and lawns will thrive. Lay sods on top of crappy dirt and my money says the lowest denominator wins.
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    Where can you buy the golf grass seed in N Thailand please? Mae Sai ideal or next nearest

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    Question Looks good

    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    I had about 500 sq m of turf laid this summer. It is yaa yippun and I think it was 30B sq/m delivered and installed.

    It was a pretty big job and took five workers three days. Seventeen truckloads of black dirt(5,300B) was delivered a month prior and the workers leveled it all on the first day. They soaked the ground completely. The second and third days they laid the turf.

    It looked pretty good all through the summer with daily watering, but has since turned a bit yellow. I need to find some fertilizer as winter is the best time for that.



    The grass goes all the way around the house. The best thing about grass is that ants have a bitch of a time walking on it. Haven't had a single ant in our house since the grass went down.



    I think it was about 20,000 for the dirt, grass labor and beer.

    How old is the picture,how's it holdng up?

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    I have a nice lawn as well, but my problem is shade. As our trees grow in even with Malay grass areas are now beginning to thin because of shade where we have trees that are naturally growing. I tend to want to sacrifice tree branches for a green lawn. The wife would rather lose the grass than the trees. I wish they had a grass here that really could take to shade. If its here I have never found it.

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    She has just insisted on 2 truck loads of rough earth to be dumped at our gate and hire 4 women to come and spread it about the garden. The idea being to prevent the lakes that form during the rainy season. What rainy season?
    I asked her about grass seed and she reckoned 10,000 Bht per Kilo.
    Having straightened up the car I expressed my disbelief.
    So I'm on the hunt.
    Grass seed that will grow under trees.


    Any suggestions or advice gratefully received.
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    Basically the same question as AO.
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    I tried finding grass seed about a year ago with no luck.
    Everyone we asked looked at us like we were crazy when we asked for seed. Ended up going with turf.
    Good luck with your search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    Any suggestions or advice gratefully received.
    This is how I did it. I brought in lorry loads of top soil from the rice fields. My grassed area is about 1 Rai. Too big to seed and too big to turf. I then left it and let whatever grow. I then kept cutting with a petrol mower on the lowest settings. Eventually the weeds die off and the cutting stimulates grass to grow. Eventually you will end up with a lawn.
    Come November the grass will stop growing and I let the lawn die off until it regrows come the rain season. I never water my lawn as it's too big an area. Come the rains it springs back into life. And so the cycle continues.
    For some unknown reason my pictures won't load. Help please.



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    I probably shouldn't give advice with a lawn like this but the grass grows the best near the gate where the dog is buried..

    Cost of a lawn in Thailand-img_20200325_094629-jpg


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    Quote Originally Posted by naptownmike View Post
    I tried finding grass seed about a year ago with no luck.
    Everyone we asked looked at us like we were crazy when we asked for seed. Ended up going with turf.
    Good luck with your search.
    Yes, that's correct statement for Thailand. Nothing has changed in the situation after decades, because: At every larger garden center there are people who bring the folded carpets of the grass and lay it down as required. Price negotiated per sq. meter.

    However, not really clever to do it in the dry season. And for very large areas it's possible to place the pieces only with distance (or in stripes), within few months the grass will spread up and close the area totally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    This is how I did it. I brought in lorry loads of top soil from the rice fields. My grassed area is about 1 Rai. Too big to seed and too big to turf. I then left it and let whatever grow. I then kept cutting with a petrol mower on the lowest settings. Eventually the weeds die off and the cutting stimulates grass to grow. Eventually you will end up with a lawn.
    Come November the grass will stop growing and I let the lawn die off until it regrows come the rain season. I never water my lawn as it's too big an area. Come the rains it springs back into life. And so the cycle continues.
    For some unknown reason my pictures won't load. Help please.




    i think that's the way to go for us. There's no way we'll keep it green all year. It's the shaded areas that never seem to thrive but the merest suggestion of cutting down a pomello tree is fraught with danger. Do you throw on any additives or the like to promote growth?

    Looks very good bye the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    Do you throw on any additives or the like to promote growth?
    I do nothing to it other than cut it about every 5th day. Do not miss a cut because once you've let it get too long it can really be a bastard to cut especially if it's wet. Best to cut when dry. Also you buy a mower that mulches the grass. So you do not collect the cuttings but return the cuttings back to the soil.



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    That looks great specially since you just let it grow on its own.

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    Right we're going to get a little old bloke who was a grounds keeper in Singapore. He'll work at the leveling and decide how much top soil to lay down. Current theory is 10+ truck loads.
    Ladies will then smooth it out and then we'll spread whatever grass seed the wee man recommends.
    By this time I should have finished reading the bible and rise to a glorious lawn or dawn.
    What could go wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    He'll work at the leveling and decide how much top soil to lay down.
    Easy to work out. 100mm of top soil for every square meter. Make sure it's top soil from the rice fields, if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    then we'll spread whatever grass seed the wee man recommends.
    Grass seed hard to find and even harder to grow here - good luck, you will need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Grass seed hard to find and even harder to grow here - good luck, you will need it.
    Plenty on Lazada, Plan to aerate my poor excuse of a lawn and throw some seed.... Once Iam able to water it !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    Plenty on Lazada, Plan to aerate my poor excuse of a lawn and throw some seed.
    Have you worked out the price and how much you will need? the prices are ludicrous!
    We have 3/4 of n acre of grass, it was cheaper to buy turf at 20 Baht sq m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Have you worked out the price and how much you will need? the prices are ludicrous!
    We have 3/4 of n acre of grass, it was cheaper to buy turf at 20 Baht sq m.
    Iam buying this one, says it needs to 2-3kg per Rai, my back yard is 200sq m.... whats that about 1/10th or a Rai !!

    เมล็ดพันธุ์หญ้ารูซี่ 1กก.เมล็ดพันธุ์ใหม่ หญ้าพันธุ์รูซี่ หญ้าคองโก้ (Manila Grass seeds) (Ruzi Grass seeds) Brachiaria ruziziensis เมล็ดพันธุ์หญ้า หญ้าอาหารสัตว์ หญ้าเลี้ยงวัว หญ้าเลี้ยงแพะ หญ้าเลี้ยงแกะ หญ้าเลี้ยงกระต่าย | Lazada.co.th

    My lawn is established just patchy becuase the previous tenant did not water it, I actualy rented this house for 3 years before I went home in 2018 and had the lawn looking pretty good through watering and fertilizer but ive back here since July 2019 and its not coming good hence I will make a lawn aerator (just some spiky shoes) and just toss some seed.

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    This is my lawn a couple of years back. All natural not turf or seed.






    Here's some good advice from a poster.

    Nuan Noi grass

    I live in Udon and am landscaping our new house. In researching grass for a full sun area, a golf course consultant suggested Nuan Noi aka Manila Grass and for an excellent source he suggested Golf Course Specialists (Golf Course Specialists Home). He put me in touch with the owner, Queen at 089 499 8962 or Queen@Golfcoursespecialists.net.



    I ordered 300 square meters at 20 baht / m2 and the delivery and installation here in Udon Thani was another 30 baht / m2. All in was 50 baht/ m2.

    The quality was excellent, the delivery was on time, and the workers got it all down in less than an hour. Queen is full of knowledge and also does irrigation. My irrigation was already in so all I needed was grass. I could have done it myself but heck, the added cost to lay it was minimal.

    All in all my experience was superb!

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    Yay, help him spread his free advertisement!

    Good work there, prag!

    If your lawn is neither turf nor seed...what is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    If your lawn is neither turf nor seed...what is it?
    Over the years I've explained many times as to how I got my lawn/grass. But not a problem to repeat.

    Originally my garden was a bomb site after having the house built. I cleared all debris and removed the trees. Then i got soil delivered from the rice fields. It has to be the top soil. Nothing else. I overlay-ed the garden area to a depth of about 100mm and let it sit for about 6 months . In that time I just hand leveled where it was needed and removed any weeds that appeared.

    Once the rains come in April/May the garden starts to come alive and you need to start cutting, with a lawnmower, anything that grows. You keep doing this and the weeds die back and the grass takes over. Once the rains stop I do my last cut and leave it to die back. I never water it. Then in April I go through the same routine again.

    The secret to getting good grass is getting rice field top soil and a little hard work as and when it's needed. I planted the trees after the grass got established as I thought that if I put them in first they'd overshadow the grass and take the nutrients out of the soil.

    During the dry season I don't water the grass. I leave it to die back but still retains a cover over the soil. So it really doesn't look a mess.

    Obviously I need a petrol driven lawn mower so I got the best and only cut on the lowest of settings leaving the cuttings to feed the grass as they break down.

    Hope that helps?
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    I see.

    It does look remarkably good.

    Thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    Iam buying this one, says it needs to 2-3kg per Rai
    Are you sure about that coverage? That link doesn't take me to any grass seed.
    I have been looking on Lazada recently because local plant shops cannot help with grass. I thought the prices very steep and none of the sellers I looked at quoted a coverage rate. So I looked at some US gardening sites and came back with a figure, after converting the units, of about 1kg for 10 square metres. Different grasses have different coverage rates and maybe my maths is suspect. Still from my past experience in UK I remember a big box of seed only filled in a few patches of bare ground.
    I have decided to follow Prag's lead. I have put down a small area of topsoil which is now bare, waiting for a bit of levelling. Prag's result looks great and there is some native grass around the edges of my plot, still green at this time of year. I reckon I'll let it spread and assess the results next spring.
    Let us know how your lawn turns out. Maybe I'll need to revisit my plan next year.

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    My first cut, tuther day, after 6 months of basically no rain.


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