Thread: Are Thais poisoning their land

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I can't but help laughing at my missus when she prepares vegitables/fruit etc. She won't drink the water from the tap but prepares and cleans(?) food under the tap in the belief she's washing off any chemicals. Waste of time telling her it's the chemicals within that will cause the problems.

As you consume the supposed chemically enriched vegies too?

It is not only the chemicals Thais put on soil that poison us. If you live in a cemented house, you should be aware of radioactivity. Wood or steel houses are much healthier.

Originally Posted by ltnt

I've not seen that color here in the North East. Perhaps alkali content? BIL uses Chicken Shit for fertilizer, but most use chemical fertilizer and chemical weed killers. No Industrial Waste plants in your area Pragmatic? I'd be more concerned if I lived in or near Bangkok and its spreading industrial community or in Pattaya.

Are you really living in the northeast, or did you mean the northwest?

Originally Posted by thaimeme

So....what of the highly developed practice of Western lands?

Are they poisoned or pristine?

It depends on your definition of poisoned and pristine. Anything sprayed on plants has the potential of being a poison. Our knowledge of long term exposure to chemicals, toxins and even unpurified water is limited. If you ask most researchers, they will tell you it is best to eat fruit or vegetables that have never been sprayed with anything other than water and even then it depends on the quality of the water.

There have been many cases of vegetables causing salmonella because farms are too close to ranches that have cattle or other livestock. Crops have been contaminated by fecal matter washed into the fields and subsequent contamination occurs. Thorough washing will decrease this possibility, but is not always 100% effective in preventing illnesses.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

or did you mean the northwest?

Thanks, momentary madness, some folks are on top of everything...not me.

That is OK. If you did mean the northeast, I was going to come pay you a visit, so you lucked out.

O.K., but if in the neighborhood...

ditto..

Do you call them JJ, or do they have an online order form?

Originally Posted by ltnt

No Industrial Waste plants in your area Pragmatic?

Not at all. Agriculteral land as far as the horizan all around.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Do you call them JJ, or do they have an online order form?

I order a veg set plus coconuts. If you want the list of veg I can post it later as I am out at the moment. You can call or order on line.

The coconuts, although a little more expensive than villa are like nothing I have tasted!

Posted the info here:
https://teakdoor.com/food-and-drink/1...ver-found.html (Best Veg I have ever found in Thailand.)

All good information JJ. What is your typical order like(cost) and how do you rate their taste? I am definitely interested in contacting them and was wondering how their English speaking skills are? Do you have a contact person you would recommend?

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Originally Posted by thaimeme

So....what of the highly developed practice of Western lands?

Are they poisoned or pristine?

It depends on your definition of poisoned and pristine. Anything sprayed on plants has the potential of being a poison. Our knowledge of long term exposure to chemicals, toxins and even unpurified water is limited. If you ask most researchers, they will tell you it is best to eat fruit or vegetables that have never been sprayed with anything other than water and even then it depends on the quality of the water.

There have been many cases of vegetables causing salmonella because farms are too close to ranches that have cattle or other livestock. Crops have been contaminated by fecal matter washed into the fields and subsequent contamination occurs. Thorough washing will decrease this possibility, but is not always 100% effective in preventing illnesses.

Rather moot...
As any "fresh" food stuffs are hybrid and GMOed beyond real consumption - making Western produce and proteins quite irrelevant.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

All good information JJ. What is your typical order like(cost) and how do you rate their taste? I am definitely interested in contacting them and was wondering how their English speaking skills are? Do you have a contact person you would recommend?

Taste is much better than anything In the markets. The only other veg worthy is from lemon farm. Same applies to the coconuts. I usually order the box set at 500bht which is a mixed lot. The only downside is you can't pick and choose. I order 15 - 20 coconuts a month.

English is very good.

Originally Posted by Pascha

It is not only the chemicals Thais put on soil that poison us. If you live in a cemented house, you should be aware of radioactivity. Wood or steel houses are much healthier.

Radon gas.

If a building is well ventilated, the levels of Radon Gas are much lower than found in basements and poorly ventilated buildings.

I would think most homes built by westerners in Thailand fall into the well ventilated category because of heat factors. I know mine does.

Ventilation's the trick.

Radon's continually being given off from just about all materials as they degrade.

Does wood give off radon? I think the background radiation just applies to anything made of earthen materials.

Correct. And here's something many don't know : As radon itself decays, it produces new radioactive elements called radon daughters or decay products. Unlike the gaseous radon itself, radon daughters are solids and stick to surfaces, such as dust particles in the air. If such contaminated dust is inhaled, these particles can stick to the airways of the lung and increase the risk of developing lung cancer.


Radon is produced by the radioactive decay of radium-226, which is found in uranium ores; phosphate rock; shales; igneous and metamorphic rocks such as granite, gneiss, and schist; and, to a lesser degree, in common rocks such as limestone.[60] Every square mile of surface soil, to a depth of 6 inches (2.6 km2 to a depth of 15 cm), contains approximately 1 gram of radium, which releases radon in small amounts to the atmosphere[3] On a global scale, it is estimated that 2,400 million curies (90 TBq) of radon are released from soil annually.[61]


Radon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wooden houses on stilts are best for health.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Pascha

Wooden houses on stilts are best for health.

Steal my heart...
The romantic notion of a traditional and practical abode doesn't go over well in today's image dwelling cultures.

Anyone that says 'Thailand is a beautiful country' has his eyes shut. I've put pictures like this up on other threads, so please don't see it as a one off. Get yourself off the main road and see how Thais treat their country-side. Similar can be found off the main roads but not as much in my opinion.