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    sodium nitrate

    sodium nitrate (I think) is a powerful weed-killer used for keeping drives and pathways clear of weeds for up to 4 months.
    Can anyone please advise me on the Thai name for this product

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    That spells Sodium Nitrate, so its the same with a rising tone I guess.

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    Isn' that used for..erm.. stuff?

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    I made a mistake, it should be sodium chlorate (NaClO3)
    Banned in EU in 2009 but used extensively elsewhere according to Wikipedia

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    Get yourself a bottle of Glyphosate 48, nasty enough... Available in most flower/hardware stores. One step up (in effectiveness but also in toxicity) would be Paraquat.

    Info: Wikipedia and Did you take your poison today? > 07

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack
    Isn' that used for..erm.. stuff?
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    indeed it is. what people using this substance for erm... stuff... fail to realise is that if left out and about for ermmm...stuff... it will kill everything that touches it. Children included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack
    Isn' that used for..erm.. stuff?
    Are you confusing it with potassium nitrate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack
    Isn' that used for..erm.. stuff?
    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla
    Are you confusing it with potassium nitrate?

    any nitrate will be ok for the 'stuff'

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan153
    I made a mistake, it should be sodium chlorate (NaClO3) Banned in EU in 2009 but used extensively elsewhere according to Wikipedia
    NaClO3 is excellent stuff for clearing paths and drives, but you cannot find it easily (it can be used as an explosive)


    Quote Originally Posted by Gipsy
    Get yourself a bottle of Glyphosate 48, nasty enough... Available in most flower/hardware stores. One step up (in effectiveness but also in toxicity) would be Paraquat.
    Glyphosate (like Roundup etc) works well enough but does not keep the weeds away after application as it degrades quickly

    Paraquat is also effective but caused a lot of deaths and illness, is banned in the EU

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    Whatever your concern for native wildlife why do you think these very strong toxins kill so rapidly.

    Sodium chlorate - Santa Cruz Biotechnology
    datasheets.scbt.com/sc-212938.pdf
    CONSIDERED A HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCE ACCORDING TO OSHA 29 CFR ... Sodium chlorate may damage the liver, kidneys, and blood cells of humans.

    Although the vendors try to conceal it they are a hazard to humans.
    Even if you pay some poor local to spray the aerosols and residues can and do cause serious diseases,and kill your family,pets etc.

    A very bref glance at the literature may I hope encourage you to an alternative way.

    Weeding,salt solutions evn mild bleach,with local labour so cheap why not employ a few young ladies with brushes ,if you can draw lanes you might even find your pals would pay to watch scrubber racing .Seriously be careful

    some of thousands of risks found in 2 secs

    Roundup, An Herbicide, Could Be Linked To Parkinson's ...
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    Apr 25, 2013 - Those residues enhance the damaging effects of other food-borne ... Could Be Linked To Parkinson's, Cancer And Other Health Issues,

    Cancer Incidence among Glyphosate-Exposed Pesticide ...
    National Center for Biotechnology Information › NCBI › Literature › PubMed Central (PMC)
    by AJ De Roos - ‎2005 - ‎Cited by 140 - ‎Related articles Nov 4, 2004 - Given the widespread use of glyphosate, future analyses of the AHS will allow further examination of long-term health effects



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    Sodium Chlorate can just be watered onto paths, driveways etc, and is not particularly hazardous to animals

    unless it is mixed with carbon and sulphur!

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44
    why not employ a few young ladies with brushes
    or even shaved

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    A bottle of Glyphosate 48

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack
    Isn' that used for..erm.. stuff?
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    indeed it is. what people using this substance for erm... stuff... fail to realise is that if left out and about for ermmm...stuff... it will kill everything that touches it. Children included.
    What folks surely need is more chemicals in their lives and general environment.

    Instead of perpetuating these accepted properties, [in this case] remove the fcking weeds and whatnot by hand when needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Instead of perpetuating these accepted properties, [in this case] remove the fcking weeds and whatnot by hand when needed.
    The OP didn't really state that he wanted it for weeds. I used it to kill a clump of bamboo. It works a treat on bamboo. You just cut a few canes and immediately paint the top of the canes, in the ground, with the stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quimbian corholla View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Merrimack
    Isn' that used for..erm.. stuff?
    Are you confusing it with potassium nitrate?
    or more likely amyl nitrate.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    remove the fcking weeds and whatnot by hand when needed.
    Have you tried that with Bamboo and Japanese Knotweed!!? I often pull the weeds out of my terracing but if I have been away a longish time, they have become too big to pull as they bring up the terrace blocks too.

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    Dangerous Pesticides Are Showing Up More and More in Our Urine and Breast Milk
    Tags: POLITICS/ELECTIONS/CORRUPTION SCIENCE/HEALTH/CLIMATE/NATURE
    In early April, the shocking news that breast milk carries many times the allowable amount of glyphosate, also called Roundup, came out on the web. Glyphosate is a poison that defoliates plants, but back in the late 1990s, farmers began planting soybeans that resisted the chemical, bouncing back from a dowse of Glyphosate like they had just enjoyed a spring rain, while the weeds around them died.

    The Frankenstein soybeans were followed by releases of genetically modified corn, cotton, canola and sugar beets. Now, many crops carry the gene.



    As a result, according to the release, scientists found glyphosate at “760 to 1600 times higher than the European Drinking Water Directive allows for individual pesticides.” These levels are less than allowable levels set by America’s Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA has been led to believe that glyphosate exits the body and does not accumulate. How could they think that?

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    [1] GreenMedInfo.com, Glyphosate Adverse Health Effects
    [2] A Valuable Reputation: Tyrone Hayes said that a chemical was harmful, its maker pursued him" by Rachel Aviv, The New Yorker, 10 February 2014
    [3] Atrazine: Chemical Summary. Toxicity and Exposure Assessment for Children's Health (Report). U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. 4/24/2007.
    [4] Hayes, Tyrone B.; Anderson, Lloyd L.; Beasley, Val R.; de Solla, Shane R.; Iguchi, Taisen; et al. (2011). "Demasculinization and feminization of male gonads by atrazine: Consistent effects across vertebrate classes". The Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology 127 (1–2): 64–73. doi:10.1016/j.jsbmb.2011.03.015. PMID 21419222.
    [5] Greenmedinfo.com, Roundup May Be Carcinogenic in the Parts-Per-Trillion Range, 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drainpipe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    remove the fcking weeds and whatnot by hand when needed.
    Have you tried that with Bamboo and Japanese Knotweed!!? I often pull the weeds out of my terracing but if I have been away a longish time, they have become too big to pull as they bring up the terrace blocks too.
    Just cement everything over, Andy.....that'll work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Just cement everything over, Andy.....that'll work.
    Not with Bamboo or Knotweed they will grow through it.
    Japanese knotweed is able to grow through concrete, walls and tarmac.
    knotweed

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