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    email sent.

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    sorry,, never received your email,,

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    OK, answered your PM. We can try that.

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    Does anyone have a phone number for the research station in Pak Chong?

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    สถานีวิจัยปากช่อง สถาบันอินทรีจันทรสถิตย์ ฯ อ.ปากช่อง จ. นครราชสีมา 30130 โทร 044-311796

    This is their facebook page

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/%E0%B...73512076089689

    A mobile number as well

    081-4702382,

    Also try this dude who seems to be in the mix with them

    https://research.rdi.ku.ac.th/forest...aspx?id=360028

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    Thanks for the info.

    Last week (before the holiday) we tried to call. There is still no answer at the 044 311796 number & the 084702382 number does not exist, at least according to the recording.

    I tried the facebook link and it says "Sorry, the page isn't available" & the additional website listed just comes up as Bad Address.

    I guess I'm not meant to have a Haas avocado tree. 5555

    If anybody else has any other info, please advise.

    Thanks, Mook

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    Update...

    Pak Chong answered their phone this morning.

    They are currently not taking orders and when they do, if you place an order, the minimum is 50 trees. If I had room for fifty trees, I probably would, but , alas, I do not.

    Anybody in Eastern Issan want 47 trees?

    I didn't think so.

    Back to square one, unless I want to drive 7 hours to Muak Lek for 2 or 3 trees.

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    In Honduras I have seen the Trees up to 30meter, don't ask me what breed they were. Scruffy surface fruits. I am planning to get some around my house to give some shade.
    I guess they are pretty gutter friendly as they are not loosing much leaf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mook View Post
    Update...

    Pak Chong answered their phone this morning.

    They are currently not taking orders and when they do, if you place an order, the minimum is 50 trees. If I had room for fifty trees, I probably would, but , alas, I do not.

    Anybody in Eastern Issan want 47 trees?

    I didn't think so.

    Back to square one, unless I want to drive 7 hours to Muak Lek for 2 or 3 trees.
    Mook, I may be able to take the 47 trees off your hands. Where do you live? I am near Udon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    I have two trees, about 8 years old and no fruit

    maybe cuttings is the way to go
    Probably grown from the seed, and might never get fruit. Suggest you get some buds from a bearing tree and graft them on for success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubberdiesel View Post


    one year old growing from seed in 5 gallon bucket (hass avocado)

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    Hope that bucket is well drained as Avo's hate wet feet and will die off quickly.

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    Great thread. I'm looking for a specific variety caled the GEM pygmie (spelling?) avocado. It get's it name from the guy that created it. I'll have to look it up again to supply a link.
    It's a short grafted tree that produces something close to Haas avocado but a lot shorter but still produces a lot of fruit.
    Has anyone else heared of it and is it available here in Thailand?

    I have a townhouse but do have enough space for a fairly big pot and it should do well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namdocmai View Post
    Matt i would plant that tree in full soil before the roots go circling around in the bucket.

    You can transport scions in a plastic bag with a damp towell and keep it cool.

    Hass is not a western-Indian avocado so it needs a cooler temp then let's say in Phuket.
    Don't know about that, but Hass grow in tropical and sub tropical Queensland !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namdocmai View Post
    You can graft onto a seedling when the stem is about 1 cm diameter.

    You can keep the scion wood for grafting about 2 weeks if kept in a plastic bag with something humid lake wet toiletpaper and kept cool and dark.
    Try to graft asap after taking the scionwood.


    Well i could teach all you guys how to graft but better talk about where to buy them grafted tree's in Thailand. Search for grafting info on internet.

    I bought mine in BKK after a long search but i read many times that they are sold around the Pakchong research centre and around it along the roads.

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    My plan is to go there and buy some grafted tree's for myself to play with. I don't want to waste time with growing from seed. Also i read that the pakchong research centre sells avocado tree's but when i contact them i don't get reply.

    I have mangotree's with more then 10 variety's on 1 tree and i also want to do that with avocado-tree. That way you can harvest for a long season.
    Grafting can be interesting, i once grafted 7 different varieties of peaches on to a peach tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namdocmai View Post
    The bigger Tops supermarkets sell hass avocado's from the Royal Project. They are very good quality and cheaper then imported ones. I would like to grow Reed avocado but i don't know what variety i am growing now, i bought a grafted tree.
    I had a couple of Reed avo's in Queensland. A large round fruit about the size of a baseball, very good flavour but not a commercial avo' as they do not last long enough for marketing. my trees were about 6 meters high at ten years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubberdiesel View Post
    Avo's do not like "wet feet"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namdocmai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nedkellylives View Post
    need to be grown in well drained soil that does not get waterlogged
    Hillsides are ideal
    Yes hillsides are great but who lives in the hills can grow Hass avocado and many other variety's from Mexico or Guatamala.

    Also they can grow in large containers and make fruit.

    In the tropical lowlands it is possible to grow West Indian variety's. They are a little less fat and less nutty taste but still very nice to eat. They also get much bigger untill more then 3kg a piece. I read some WI-variety's like Monroe or Catalina can also taste great but i have never seen one in real.

    Look in the Tops supermarket or local markets. If you see huge cannonball-like avocado's then they are Booth#7 West Indian variety that can grow in lowlands in the tropics. Thai call them Hek but they always have their own names because international names are to hard for them.

    Hass is a nice avocado but there are loads of nice variety's, hundreds. Hass is grown the most because they do well in orchards. Now the whole world thinks Hass is the only avocado but that is sure not the case. Californians sell the Hass and keep the Reed for themselves is what i read.
    Just a little misunderstanding here i think. Hass are a very sound commercial fruit, last well in transport and on market stalls. Reed are a very good fruit, but definately unsuitable for commercial market due to their unsuitability for travelling and shelf life. This is the reason that growers keep them for themselves. Markets will not buy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Namdocmai View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namdocmai View Post
    In Guang Dong, 20 km after pakchong towards saraburi on the #2 highway at muak lek, nursery's on both sides of the road.

    Some other kind member here gave me this tip. If you go there then please post here your experience, i still have to go there myself.

    Thanks for that. I will take my truck down and see what is there. What would be the best time of year to look, or does that matter?
    I guess anytime is good except around the Thai national holidays?

    But you have to decide which type of avocado you can grow in your climate. Hass needs cool temperatures (in the mountains or North Thailand) because it is a guatamala or mexican avocado. The West Indian cado's can grow/fruit in hot and humid tropics like BKK or more south.

    I read good reviews for Catalina WI avocado and i also read that the research centre might have them. Also i heard that the research centre mislabelled their cado-tree's so if you buy Hass there it might be another cado. TIT.
    Not quite correct info here. I grew HASS avo's in sub tropical SE Qld where it can get very humid. They are also grown in tropical north Queensland. So i think that Hass will grow anywhere in Thailand given right conditions i.e they need to be on slopes as they do not tolerate wet feet.

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    I see that most posts are 1 year old, so assume that interest has waned by now.
    However here are a couple of things to know about Avo trees, if anyone is interested. First they need to be in drained soil, so slopes are really important. Otherwise if the soil is wet root rot will occur, they will probably become infected with the fungal pathogen Phytopthora a root disease which cannot be cured. One should apply gypsum around the tree which supplies calcium, this supresses the formation of the Phytopthora spores, keep all mulch away from the actual tree trunk
    A sign that you have this disease, leaves will turn yellow/brown and begin to drop. A healthy tree will grow quickly after the first 2-3 years and can grow up to 40 ft to 80 ft., a very nice shade tree which does not shed messy leaves. good luck.

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    HD, tiy are correct in so many ways about AVOS not liking wet roots but you can still grow them in POTS.

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    Howdy~ Did you ever locate the necessary avocado tree stock you were sourcing? Last year we were on holiday in the north and saw a couple of varieties. Also, some place in the mountains the year before to the west of Chaiyaphum and further west and north of Tak. Wasn't looking for them at the time just noticed and bought fruit because I am addicted to guacamole and ceviche. I took my wife to the USA last spring and we ate avocados almost daily. (One daughter has a tree in her yard across from a giant orchard. Her land was probably in avocados before development. Another daughter has a neighbor that has more than he can eat and she gets them during the season) My Isan wife was not familiar with them until a few years ago until she was spoilt by me. So much so that I have decided to put in a few trees. So now I am on a quest to obtain some varieties for planting on the slopes of a new large L-shaped pond and next to a couple of other ponds on our land. Any help or information from any of y'all would be gratefully appreciated! Thanks~kw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator View Post
    HD, tiy are correct in so many ways about AVOS not liking wet roots but you can still grow them in POTS.
    Or build appropriate mounds for them - should be done from the start.

    Pots only restrict growth.

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    Frankly, locally grown avocados seem scarcely worth the bother. The ones I have sampled were pitiful efforts, tasteless and watery without any decent texture.

    Useless for anything, really, beyond making some second rate guacamole.

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    I've had a variety of different avocados here in the last 15 years here and I think the MAJORITY of the local Thai avocados are better than anything I've had from NZ or OZ. My only complaint is not being able to get up North to get the Thai variety.

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    Nonsense.

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