I have never fished for them, but I did some Internet research and what I learned was this : hard to catch in clear waters, are primarily vegetation and algae eaters, light line like 2lb test works best in clear water, small hooks- size 10 or 12 works best. Red worms , crickets, dough balls, pieces of corn for bait, although it sounds like people are using small pieces of each. No floats or bobbers. One guy from Houston Tx. said he used small pieces of Oscar Mayer hot dogs for bait and did real well, but that he didn't have much luck with the cheaper brand hot dogs. Another bait was small pieces of cheese. Anyway, it sounded small line, small hooks and very small bait was key. Up north here when we find schools of hard to catch fish by our docks, we use 1/4 sticks of dynomite. Works good if you get it to sink, kinda hard on the docks though. Try small pieces of "cocktail " size shrimp, works great on panfish up here, and try sprinkling goldfish food into the water to create a "feeding frenzy". Sounds like a Long rod like a fly rod or cane pole so you can stay back a bit might help also.