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    SO, I'm not so good at paraphrasing Thai

    Here is today's photo of the orchid shelter, kinda getting overpopulated already.


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    Orchid investment

    All total I've less than 600 baht invested in some color around the house.

    5 Cattleya were donated by bro-in-law and lady across the soi. The others I purchased at a couple of local day markets. The one exceptioin is the Dend. with white clustered flowers at the top.

    I was in a local garden center in C-buri buying pots, baskets, wire hangers and some potting soil. I spotted this sitting in a pot and asked the lady "how much"? "Not for sale, only display" was the answer.

    Not wanting to push the issue - orchids are a dime a dozen - I paid for my purchases and headed out. Ms E. L. was not to be deterred apparently as she came out of the shop minutes later with the plant. 250 baht and apparently it is an excellent example of Dendrobium infundibulum.

    I'm not into the specific genera, species of orchids at all, other than knowing enough about them not to kill them as I've done in the past. I'm interested in the beauty and delicate colorations from an ambiance perspective.

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    Buying Thai furniture

    Other than some basic appliances, we of course needed an adult play pen and some form of table with seating.

    Off we went again to the downtown market outside of Robinsons in C-buri town.

    Wooden furniture, may favorite for many reasons, is a buy in Thailand. I find that they use quality wood and have decent, strong design capabilities. The problem I find is they spend little or absolutely no time in finish. A quality finish is the most important esthetic when looking at wooden furniture. More on this in another post.

    I find a nice queen size bed and a good dining table with eight chairs. We get a couple of those light weight aluminum kitchen cupboards and we're done. Delivery took about an hour and a half. Nice.

    One small problem, duh, when is there not a 'small' problem. They had taped the price of the table to the top with masking tape. There is almost no way to remove old masking tape from a finished surface with readily available products without ruining the finish. No problem, the installers came prepared. This had obviously happened before, why they still use this method is beyond me.

    Out comes some fine grit sandpaper and a bottle of solvent along with more 'varnish' and a brush that was older than I am. (I'm youger than dirt but older than dust ) Table top was refinished with the following admonition - "don't touch for 24 hours". Great I just bought a table I can watch dry for a day. TIT

    With all that goes on in getting settled, about the only time we sat for any time was in the evening, having our cocktails on the veranda.

    When we did finally get to use the table and chairs it was an experience. None of the chairs had been balanced. (cabinet speak for making sure that all the legs touch the floor at the same time.) In some cases one or more legs would be up to an inch longer than the others. Maybe it was an inch shorter who knows whether the chair was finished too short or too long. lol

    On a subsequent trip to Robinsons Ms. E gives the shop keeper a total earfull, one of those times when I'm really glad I don't do Thai. By the time we get home the staff is there waiting to repair and refinish all the chairs. Guess what? Same same, "Ok finished, don't use for 24 hours". Yep I get to watch my chairs for a day.

    Thank god no problems with the play pen. Nice solid foundation finished reasonably and provide a great play/sleep spot.

    E. L.

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    First crisis

    Bound to happen sooner or later. The typical Thai family soap opera goings on. Bro-in-law one had cut some brush around his natural spring which is right near the property line with son #2's rubber orchard.

    Apparently he left some cut brush where son #2 normally walks while cutting rubber. Son complains to dad about Bro-in-law not being considerate of family member - by leaving some cut brush in the pathway.

    Dad is quite deaf and a little daffy at moments, alzheimers maybe. It appears that dad thinks bro-in-law is dissing son. Major beef ensues. Wife of Bro-in-law gets in the middle of the argument and tells the old man to basically flockoff.

    She is therefor banished from family get together last Thursday. Tears and all, just like on Thai TV I swear. Sisters get together and ask if I can talk to dad and negotiate a settlement... NO FLOCKING WAY say I.

    Part of the agreement of moving here was that I would not get involved in 'family' matters other than those that involve me personally/directly.

    Girls all gather at dad's feet yesterday and pay "respect" to allow the sister back into his good graces.

    It continues to amaze me that Asian sons are automatically considered to be superior to daughters. This flocker is one worthless piece of shit that is so lazy he makes his wife get his nam when its right next to him.

    Of course the 'boys' are all trying to get dad's good side since he is about to come into 1.5 MM baht or so. The girls are the ones that take care of the dad and mom, making sure they eat properly are clean and the house is taken care of. They and their husbands are the ones that provide the transportation to the market, hospital, to vote etc. etc.

    Dad is selling about 16 or 17 rai of old rubber trees so the vermin are all scouting around the carcass. He has already given each child a few rai so they have land. The boys managed to gamble it away or sell it immediately for quick cash. The girls still own all of the gifted land... go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon
    No problem
    My internal alarm bells are set off whenever I hear this phrase!

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    Bushed

    Well, it is 8 PM and I'm ready for bed.

    We've been here for two weeks, give or take, and I'm still not acclamated to this place. It used to be that my 'bed' time was around 11PM - 12 PM. (Our adult play time is usually during daylight hours.)

    First I would check the US markets and then watch House, Numbers or some version of CSI most nights. I would rise by 6:30 latest and jump on the computer and check emails, my web site etc. with the morning coffee.

    Now it is up at 4:30 - 5 AM in tune with the roosters crowing across the soi. I grab the first cup of java and head out to water the orchids - when necessary - check their general health and then do the same with the vegetable starters I've got going.

    Then its time for the emails etc. The rest of the day is spent doing errands and running around finding the little things you always need. Like borrowing and axe and sharpening stone from 'dad'. Today it included a trip to C-buri to pick up some of those plastic drawer thingys, for organizing some office clutter. An occasional trip to the fresh market, like every day. Checking on the sisters and other various chores.

    All of a sudden its time for a gin on the rocks and watching the sunset. Where has the day gone? After an hour or so when the horizon has darkened its time for supper.

    Then its emails again and check for the latest posting on TD and a couple of other forums I enjoy. By 8:30 or 9 I'm ready for bed. whew another tough day.

    I have to believe its the fresh air here, I always new that fresh air was exhausting lol.... Back in another time when I used to work on a dairy farm on weekends and summers I had the same response.

    I really didn't realize how bad the air in Bangers was until we moved here.

    I've plenty more to write about but am knackered at the moment. Wait till you hear about the 'watering'....

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    Watering the orchard

    Someone early in this thread warned about renting the house and NOT the orchard. As forcast an issue has raised its head re. the water system.

    I did agree to water the orchard for 15 or so minutes every " 4 or 5" days as part of the rental agreemenet. The water comes from a pond on the property and the only thing I supply is the electric.

    Well, now the pump runs but no water... must be blocked or the pump needs priming. What ever it is, when I flip the switch - no water.

    Now the landlord would 'like' me to fix it. Sorry bud I am not a mechanic nor an irrigation expert. Like the ms. says we rent the HOUSE not the orchard.

    So I've pissed of the landlord less than a month into the lease. GO Figure!

    Not unexpected actually as I suspected early on that this could develop into somthing I didn't want. Better to put the foot down now than later.

    He can fix his own system.

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    Speaking of water

    Taking a shower here is an "eye opening" experience.

    I have never taken a shower in such cold water before. If your wondering, 'how cold", take pint glass chuck it full of cracked ice and then fill with water. Now you got it.

    The electric water heater is waiting to be installed. The contractor I've hired to do the upgrades has been busy and won't get to us until next week. Why wait? I've seen the work this fellow has done and it is totally up to western standards.

    He has a unique, to me, way of working. Give him the money to buy supplies and he returns with reciepts and the product along with the change. He charges 250 baht a day for he and his brother to do the work.

    He is a real Thai Mr. Fixit. Like I said, I've seen his work and it is great. He basically rebuilt another expats house in the area, plumbing, electric, roof, cabinets etc. Its worth waiting a few days to us to get the work done correctly the first time.

    E. G.

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    One of the best threads I have ssen here for a while, EG.

    Greens on the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon
    He can fix his own system.
    It would be the owner's obligation to fix it, even if it was the water in your rented house that's affected by it.

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    Water mains

    I think I'll buy a back up tank for our water supply!

    The first pic is taken at the junction of the main road to Makham, heavily traveled. Bet they saved 9, 10 feet of pipe by cutting the corner. Yes the blue 4 incher is the mains pipe to about 50 or so houses.

    The first accident where a vehicle ends up in the monsoon ditch we are in trouble..




    This next one shows the pipe going to the meter next to the house. Note how it maintains its height above the monsoon ditch via the bamboo support system. This ditch is full throttle in rainy season.



    That blue 4 inchier continues on down the soi. It runs through the culvert at the end of the driveway to the house. They could have placed it a little closer to the driveway and had only about 2 feet exposed, but they saved a meter of pipe this way.

    Not that I'm taking the piss out Thai Civil Engineering but I do need a back up.

    E. G.

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    Make sure to have the permission of the owner for any installations you'll make on rented property, and be clear whether you'll take anything with you when leaving, try to negotiate some payment or rent-deduction for any agreed permanent improvements you'll make.

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    I really need to learn Thai

    Yesterday it was time to repot some of the veggie starters.

    I needed some potting soil and headed off to a shop that I thought might have what I needed. It just looked like a farm/plant supply place, lots of bags of stuff that were not rice. It never dawned on me that I really couldn't tell them exactly what I wanted.

    Ms. El was visiting with one of the sisters. No matter, I jumped on my trusty steed and off I went to claim my potting soil.

    When I got to the shop it became very apparent I was in some trouble. The lady that runs the shop spoke not a word of English. As I've said before my Thai is tourist level. I had neglected to bring my little yellow Eng. - Thai dictionary and had not memorized "kee din".

    With a lot of yabbering by me and some shoddy sign language and pointing at bags of stuff that had readable characters on them - 10-10-10, 20-20-20 etc we got to the right shed.

    Then it was a matter of checking out the bags that didn't have numbers on them. I looked for some sign on the bags that might indicate what was in them. No such luck not one single letter did I recognize.

    There I was with about 8 different bags of 'stuff' in varying sizes to sort through and try and find my potting soil.

    The lady, bless her heart, figured out that if I could see what was in the bags it might help. She opened one of each, just enough so that I could see what was inside.

    After feeling and smelling the contents I had found my potting soil! ( The smelling part was a little dicey and her helper had a good guffaw at the stupid Farang smelling and rubbing stuff in his hands.)


    I didn't care, I had my potting soil. Besides, now I know where to find two types of charcoal, pig shit, chicken shit, cow shit (3 different varities) potting soil and bark.

    I'll be back when it comes time to repot some of my orchids.

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    Orchard?

    As I've mentioned previously the landlord wants me to buy the 4 rai and house. He keeps pumping the value of the 'orchard' and water supplies as good points.

    Now that I've had some time to get my feet on the ground, STS, I wonder how he considers this an orchard. Yes, there are a variety of fruit trees but nothing commercially viable. There are 4 or 5 trees producing jack fruit, so what.

    Additionally there are two trees starting to show chinese apple and there are 3 or 4 mature lon gon (sp?) trees and some bananas.

    The rest is a mish mash of juvenile to seedling fruit trees. Mangosteen, more jackfruit and more bananas and lon gon. None of which are anywhere near fruit bearing age.



    Oh, yeah a few decrepit coconut palm that are about ready to die. This 'orchard' was planted with the idea of driving the price of the house and land north of 1MM baht obviously.

    The one decent feature of this piece of property is an old outbuilding with an old fashioned toilet and a lockable storage room. It has a nice open area that could make a decent woodworking shop or a pig sty.



    Now that might be of interest eventually.

    The 'orchard' is fully irrigated with a sprinkler for each of the trees so that's Ok but nothing earthshattering.

    One possibility is to rip out all the fruit, grade it and plant something that is cash generating, makua, dragon fruit come to mind.

    Of course all his family are nearby and keep stopping in to ask how we are doing and if we're happy and when are we going to buy. This is bound to go on for the year I've agreed to on the lease.

    Like I mentioned we're really just getting our feet on the ground and finding out a lot about the area. Although the missus is from the village, she has lived and worked in Bangers for 10 years or so. Already I've looked at a couple of pieces of property, just to get an idea of what land is worth in the area. Two stand out that could be worthwhile if I was interested right now.

    The first is a mangosteen orchard I've previously mentioned. Complete with Thai style 'house' (big cement leanto), water and it is fenced. 10 - 12 rai for 600K. The sale being forced by the bank.

    Another we looked at the other day was 24 rai of Mangosteen and Durian, also fully irrigated with a decent house and water. No electric (minimal solar and a genset to run the irrigation pumps.) and its about 2 Klics from the main road, would cost a heap to get electric in. This one would also demand a big strong 4 wd to get to. Price 800K, again bank wants their money.

    I do believe there will be a lot more sooner rather than later. Seems the bank is more than willing to lend cash for a new pickup with the land as colateral. Bangkok Bank will have lots of land pretty soon. With the dry weather predicted for the next year the fruit business doesn't look good unless you have a source for water.

    Speaking of Bangkok Bank, what an idiot outfit. More later.

    E. G.

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    Look in your own backyard

    Some time ago I wrote an article for an on-line expat magazine about "seeing" what is in your own backyard. The purpose was to show interesting and neat things that live or occur right where you are. Without going to a zoo or garden much of Thailand contains beautiful flowers and intriguing wild life right under our noses.

    Now I've got a huge backyard, comparatively speaking. I've not tried to really 'see' everything but a couple of things have just popped up in front of me. Sadly some of the most interesting happened so quickly that I had no time to grab the camera.

    Not long after we moved in Ms E was cleaning the windows in the lounge/sitting room. Much to her surprise when she opened one of the windows there sat a juvenile Golden Tree snake, or Ngoo kio pra in. Both were surprised to say the least. The snake flew - I saw it with my own eyes- to a nearby bush and disappeared.

    What a beautiful little creature. It had all the markings of an adult but was only about 15 - 18 inches long. I've been looking around for brothers and sisters and momma to no avail. They pose no threat to humans and was hunting geckos, their favorite food.

    The very same day as I was going out the front door for something, I noted a rather large snake crossing the front yard. It was easily 2 meters in length and a beautiful brown color - dark cinnamon - it had a very pronounced 'spine' and had vertical black stripes very noticeable from the middle to the tail. Turns out it was an Indian Rat snake, Ngoo sing.

    This thing was fast, very very fast. I went in to get my camera and came back outside fiddling with it to get it started up.. flocking digital cameras, never should have gotten rid of the ole 35mm but that's another thread....

    As soon as I set foot on the ground level carport that thing was GONE. It covered about 4 meters into the brush in about a second and a half. Never have I seen a snake move that fast. It also didn't do much sideways movement as I'm used to with rattlesnakes and gopher snakes. Just a straight beeline for the bushes next to the pond.

    I can see how they catch rats, small birds and other varmin with the speed it showed.

    A few days later as I was having my coffee on the veranda I caught a quick glimpse of what I think was a mongoose. Rat like body about 12 - 14 inches long with a bushy tail about the same lenght. Light brown in color with no noticeable markings that I could discern in such a short period of time. My first impression was mink, but don't think they have them here in LOS.

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    Look in your own backyard 2

    For some of the less predatory, and, also slower neat things. There are these bushes/hedge around the front of the house and down one side of the driveway that seem to be a favorite feeding spot for numerous butterflies.



    This I think is a variant of the female Mormon butterfly. Not really sure as there are many color/pattern variants for female mormons.


    Another shot of the same. Quite a beautiful insect. Have seen a lot of these until the recent cold snap. I really like this shot since you can see the probiscus (SP?) -feeding tube fully extended.

    ----

    Another frequent feeder is this brown.



    A part of the 'bird wing' family of butterflies, could be a palm but not sure there are so damned many. Another shot of the same.



    The white streaks on the wings and the body markings are difficult to match to anything I have reference on. I have yet to build a library of references like Curious George has at his disposal.

    There are tons of butterflies around here, all sizes and shapes. From the smallest (skippers ?) the size of your little fingernail - full wingspan - to some large swallow tails. I really need to devise a way to get photos way better than I have been. It took me 50 or 60 shots to get the above pix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon
    I caught a quick glimpse of what I think was a mongoose. Rat like body about 12 - 14 inches long with a bushy tail about the same lenght.
    Could have been a mongoose or a civet.

    Mongoose has a lage tail but a civet has a bushy tail more like a squirrels tail. Mongoose is a PunPong, civet is a E-Hin.

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    TT

    I first thought civet but then didn't think they were native to the area. I did do a pix search on Google to see what I came up with.

    The civet seems to have some distinct colorations that I would have seen. Although only a brief siting I did get a decent look as it scampered from one high grassy area across the soi to another like area. Both being pond edges. It was in full sunlight and I didn't 'register' any color variation or markings at all.

    The Google search kinda pointed me in the direction of mongoose.

    BWDIK lol

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    How cold can it be?

    Not to usurp another thread, but.

    I am NOT a wuss, I have in fact partaken in the Ice Berg swim in the Penobscot River in Maine and at lake Winnipesaukee in N.H., while ice fishing.

    But a solid week of 'ice' showers and trying to shave have done me in.

    Last evening was the last straw, even the young un, home from school, was miserable. I finally got brain in gear and fired up the two burner and started heating water to add to the dip bucket.

    I really don't care for the dip bucket style of washing but the alternative spray shower was just getting to be toooooo much. Water temp has to be below 45 deg. F.

    The good news is; my contractor showed up yesterday afternoon and is ready to work. Gave him 10K for the supplies to upgrade the bathroom and off he went.

    This afternoon we'll have a hot shower available, YES! I really don't give a shit if he puts in the new toilet or not. I can live with what we have for a day or two.

    We found out the reason he's been so busy. The Tambon head man's son is getting married today, auspicious day apparently. The guest list is almost 4,000 if you can believe it. Apparently the invitations were 50K, should be some party.

    Let's see now, if each guest gives a minimum of 200 baht - and that is probalby low considering they won't want to lose face with the 'big man' - the newly weds should do alright.

    The Tambon offices have all been redone, parking lot re-finished, nice new fence around the lot, cause why? That's where the wedding party is to be held. Any wagers on how the upgrade for the wedding is being paid for or for that matter the wedding itself?????

    Can't imagine 4,000 guests but apparently the head man is a big deal in the province. BTW sin sod was 500K and 40 baht gold whatever that means.

    I hope they are happy, I know I will be as soon as the heater is installed.

    E. G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon
    This afternoon we'll have a hot shower available, YES!
    Don't get too excited, the standard heaters here have quite low power, this is due to the limits of standard household electric circuits. I have my shower mid-day, in the morning the best description for the "hot" water is "not as cold as without heater".

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    Bored

    I know stroller, but its better warm than nothing... lol I know exactly what you mean since I've lived in Thailand for some time and been through 'several' heaters.

    Ms El went of with daughter leaving me to wait for the contractor. Some quiet time to wander the 'ranch' with my camera.

    Does anyone know what this tree is? Three phases of blossom shown below.



    The next pic shows the first two phases, the bottom ones have started to collapse.



    Then you get this bean. Looks like what they call horseradish of some type in the reference I've seen. Is it really similar to horseradish and how is it used?



    In my wandering the backyard I came across this. Can you spot the object of the photo?



    Lower right center of the photo, below and left of the flower.



    This beauty was willing to pose for me long enough to get the snap. Haven't looked up what it is yet.

    I chased another for half hour or so shot about 50 pix and ended up with nadda useable shots. Trying to shoot an orange and black against the shit on the ground is tough. Gives me a goal though. lol

    Just another dull day in the village!

    E. G.

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    I've just been told by wifey that it is "Dog Kare"

    You can eat the flower but not the bean

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    Thanks TT, similar to the cashew I guess. Although the cashew itself is edible after shucking drying and roasting.

    Thanks again... greenie for you


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    Just a word about the shower situation.

    In Bangkok I have a 3.5kw Turbocra shower that is just about getting the water 'warm' on full power, which is fine.

    In Ayutthaya I have a 3.5kw Panasonic shower that is only on 75% and it is hot.

    In its defense, the water flow is higher in Bangkok, but I'm sure it is worth paying a few hundred baht more for a Jap one rather than a Thai one.

    Nice thread - thanks.

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    Water Heater

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    This one is a Hitachi 3.5 kw, hopefully it will suffice. We have really high water pressure from the municipal system that can be controlled by a separate faucet.

    How would I know this you might ask. Because the flocking heater is laying on my kitchen floor as I type this.

    The dude showes up late, so what, and starts to work. I hear the impact drill going for about 30 seconds and then some rather weird mouthings of what I assume is Thai.

    Seems HIS brother-in-law had 'borrowed' it and apparently failed to tell my guy it no longer was functional... TiT

    Reminds me of the runaway bus drivers you always hear about. "Oooops gotta get outa here!"

    Oh, well back to heating water for this morning's shower lol


    MERRY XMAS to all.

    E. G.

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