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I was hoping for one a bit fresher than that, to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by helge
And no, he doesn't seem to be one of the Egyptian Christians.
He's a nice guy... but maybe I should stick to my original plan of bacon and sausage trimmings... it could go back to a meal for two!
Picky ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendip
Here is danish Yellow Peas
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A halal chicken?
don’t invite him then. He also would object to alcohol being drunk in his company
Besides Christmas is for Christians
It's also the birth of their senior prophet Isa (Jesus) . . . but yea . . . nice of you to make the effort, Mendip.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRealKW
Try this search:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendip
http://gotenburg halal butchers
Possibly good for this as well.
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Originally Posted by Mendip
There is no basis for the belief that 25th December is that particular prophet's birthday in the Quaran (or in the Bible), Muslims do not have a tradition of celebrating the prophet's birthday, and senior islamic scholars have proclaimed such celebration as a prohibited innovation . . . but yea . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
^ Well that's good news... so a non-halal chicken, sausages and bacon rolls it is then! :)
All washed down with some French red wine of course!
Mendip, you could ask your new Egyptian colleague to help with the international cooking/menu for that day - you can do the British food, your French cartographer friend can cook some French food, and your Egyptian colleague can get or prepare himself some halal food that he would like to eat on that day (lamb kebabs, grilled chicken, falafel, hummus, fuul [fava beans], etc). Ask him to make some Om Ali for dessert. I'm sure you will all like that.
For drinks, get in plenty of fruit juice to go along with your wine, beer, cider, whisky, brandy, vodka and schnapps. Everybody will be happy. :)
Great idea Nev, any chance of an invite Mendip?
^ The invite's in the post!
It is a good idea Nev... but... I'm kinda hoping that non halal chicken, sausages and bacon will ensure this is a dinner for two... three's a crowd as they say.
I may even do a traditional pig roast on Christmas Eve! :)
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Originally Posted by Mendip
As a back-up plan what are the rules for a halal spit roast Nev?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendip
Which end is the kosher end for the devout Egyptian?
:p
Nor did I say there was - it is accepted that this is the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMadBaron
Nor did I say they did, merely pointing out that they acknowledge its existenceQuote:
Originally Posted by TheMadBaron
And most others have not. Which senior Islamic scholars have? Where would they be and how far-reaching are their decisions? To which branch of Islam are you referring?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMadBaron
Most do, some don't.
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Originally Posted by Looper
Well it won't be my end, that's for sure.
And exciting news from Gothenburg tonight... everything is starting to come together.
I won't bore anyone with my non-halal Christmas and New Year developments... but put it this way, the festive season in Scandinavia is looking up!
The main news is that my 84 year-old mum is having her Covid jab on Wednesday... and already has the second one booked in for Jan 6th. They say give it a week and immunity should be there, or 90% odd anyway. Great, cos I'm booked here at work until the 11th Jan, so a flight on the 12th (which is also my mum's Birthday) and Bob's yer Uncle, what fantastic timing!
No say's she, cos a week from the Jan 6th jab isn't up until the 13th, so she wants me to stay a night in a hotel first before coming to stay... She always was a stickler for details.
But anyway, I now have a plan. Back to the UK for a few weeks mid January, and then off back home to Thailand before my Non O runs out on 19th Feb. All I have to do is first sort out all the CoE shite... KLM are flying to Bangkok again, so get a flight from Bristol mid Feb, then 14 days quarantine in Bangkok, back up the hill to Korat, sort out all this visa extension stuff, set meself up for working at home and then live happily ever after in Korat!
It is so great to finally have a plan... I could be back sitting with me dogs, at my black marble table having a Leo and Ya Dong before the end of Feb... I can't wait!
What can possibly go wrong!
Oh... OhOh... one question...
The Covid PCR test and Fit to Fly cert need to be within 72 hours of departure. Do you know if they have to be actual original signed documents or can they be sent as pdf by email and printed out? Or is even a digital copy on your phone acceptable? The 72 hours seems a bit tight?
"Thai Expats Stranded Overseas due to COVID-19 Restrictions
This an informative page on FB, there's also an ASQ page for choosing and reviewing the ASQ hotels.
Might help
in terms of the test and airports, I've done this recently, although not to Thailand, and it's an absolute ballache.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendip
You need to have the actual documents to hand at the airport, both on departure and arrival, AND there was a new requirement added overnight, which I didn't know about, so they weren't gonna let me on the plane because of this! I also had to do 2 tests because by the time they had got round to booking my flight, the first test had expired!
Timing is of the essence with this malarky and it can be very frustrating getting it all together at the right time, especially if you're rural in England (as it sounds like you will be) and there's nowhere nearby doing the swab test.
Brilliant news Mendip, brilliant indeed.
From the vlogs I've seen of ppl entering PI recently, the docs need to be printed out & they advise to have multiple copies. AFAIK there's no covid test needed prior to the flight, but need test upon arrival (costs ~100 usd). For foreigners who have a wife and/or kids in PI, they can enter but need a pre-approved visa. They don't need a visa if travelling with the PI citizen/ former citizen. Lots of Filipinos/ former Filipinos coming home for the holidays. Ordinary tourists not allowed yet.
As far as quarantine here, it's 2 days hotel quarantine. You can leave the hotel once you get your negative test results. Then 12 days voluntary home quarantine - not sure that all will follow that. People are also required to download an app for contact tracing, and also coordinate with their local gov't bcos they may have their own rules/ apps. My mom's town has its own QR code policy for tracing.
Just comparing circumstances. It's still a pain to travel to other far places here (lots of docs needed), so I'm not travelling far until the gov't eases restrictions (which may be 2nd half of '21).
@mendip - good luck in your holiday plans & sojourn to the UK & TH!
It is accepted that this is Christmas day. It is not accepted that this is the day that Yeshua Messiah Nazarene, Jesus Christ, Isa, Jeebus Teh Magick Jew, or whatever you want to call him, was actually born. It is widely accepted that this is just some shit the Romans made up to subvert Saturnalia.Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
اللجنة الدائمة للبحوث العلمية والإفتاء for a start.Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
I dunno. ٱلْمَمْلَكَة ٱلْعَرَبِيَّة ٱلسَّعُوْدِيَّة maybe. I'm not privy to their Christmas holiday schedules.Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
Who cares? They've only got to make it as far as Scandinavia.Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
Sunni. Almost all of Egypt's Muslims are Sunnis, so the gentleman concerned might feel a little uncomfortable joining celebrations of the birth of the prophet عِيْسَا where everybody else is getting hammered, but you never know....Quote:
Originally Posted by panama hat
That is very good news. I hope it all comes together for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendip
My signed results, test report and doctors certificate, were both emailed to me. I printed them out, 4 copies, one for each potential "leaving/inspection behind" point. Check-in/inspection at airline London, Check-in/inspection at airline Dubai, Inspection at Bangkok airport and Check-in/inspection at Bangkok quarantine hotel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendip
Plus another. I would suggest copies of all embassy issued documents as well. I also had them as imiges on my phone.
A folder in my backpack for each. Plus extras.
Back in October these were and the embassy requirements which don't appear to have changed.
Check here:
IATA - International Travel Document News
The requirements on Thai Embassy London are today:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendip
- "Fit to Fly health certificate, issued within 72 hours before departure – this is a statement by a doctor that you are free from symptoms and fit to fly (must be separate from COVID test)
- COVID-19 test result, with a laboratory output indicating that COVID -19 is not detected (COVID test must be by RT-PCR method), issued within 72 hours before departure"
Note before departure,
Requirements for Certificate of Entry during travel restriction - Royal Thai Embassy, London
As your COE will state you departed London on flight xxx at a certain time and any transit stops/flight info, you must arrive in Bangkok within the 72 hour window from your original departure point - London. The fact that you may have spent 5+ hours waiting in a transit airport is irrelevant.
However.
The airline I used, Emirates, had different requirements in October.
They now state, today:
"Family of Thai Nationals:
Non‑Thai nationals who are a spouse, parents, or children of a Thai national
Certificate of Residence Holders:
Aliens who have a certificate of residence in the Kingdom, including their spouses and children
Work permit holders:
Non‑Thai national who have a work permit or have been granted permission to work in the Kingdom in accordance with Thai laws, including their spouses and children, or foreign workers who have been granted exemption from the government to temporarily stay in the Kingdom and permitted to work through their employers or licensees who are permitted to bring in foreign workers to work in the Kingdom
For these three categories of passengers, the following additional documents are required for entry:
- Valid Thai visa or re‑entry permit
- Certificate of Entry (COE)
- Fit to fly Health certificate
- Certificate of COVID19 Free (issued not more than 72 hours before traveling)
- Health Insurance policy covering and treatment expenses, including for COVID‑19, or any other guarantee throughout their stay in the Kingdom (coverage of no less than 100,000 USD)
- ASQ booking confirmation on arrival date."
Travel requirements by destination | COVID-19 information hub | Emirates India
Back in October they required:
- Certificate of COVID19 Free (issued not more than 72 hours from date/time of the sample being taken)!
The airline duty flight controller at check-in, has the authority to decide whether you fly or not. If refused, seek him/her out.
I would suggest you need to:
1. Check the availability of the virus test where you are staying in the UK. If too tight stay a few days in London to be tested there. There were many available testers who could test, analyse and deliver the docs within 3 days.
2. The guaranteed time for delivery of the test results to you via email.
3. Travel time from UK base, west country/London mansion/hotel, to London airport.
4. Airline check-in opening time.
5. Your airline/airlines virus test requirements and required documents.
6. Your airline/airlines change of flight/re-booking requirements:
A. Latest time
B. Charges
7. Your travel insurance covers virus related travel hiccups.
Until the immigration officer hands back your 90 day permission to stay stamped passport you will remain anxious, your hotel stay will be tedious, your travel to Korat soothing.
But being greeted by your wife, daughter and your dogs will be glorious.
Probably the tradesman's entrance. But whichever it is, make sure soap and water available before and after. Cleanliness is next to godliness, as they say, and I'm sure Mr Masri would agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Looper
Pop into one to the Muslim No Go Zones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO9vBHZRBQ4
Or maybe send the Egyptian cock-block :)
^ Oh dear... this thread has gone in an unexpected direction!
We discussed it last night and are in agreement of going non-halal.
Bacon and sausages I could have forgone, but not having roasties crispy from the non-halal chicken fat was a step too far.
Couldn't agree more Nev, especially in times of Covid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neverna
Hal... I will be rural but's only a 40 minute drive into Bristol so I'm confident I can sort something out.
OhOh... thanks so much. You have excelled yourself with that information. This is all starting to look very doable.
I'm starting to look for testing places in Bristol, and if signed, scanned emailed certs are acceptable then it should be easy... I think.
I'm looking at flying KLM from Bristol - AMS - BKK because once I get over the initial anger of being charged for a trolley at Bristol Airport it's so convenient to my mum's house. I can also get extra baggage on my points since I've gone a bit overboard on the online shopping these last few months. And we'll doubtless be out of cheese in Korat... my daughter, the little bugger, has developed liking for strong Cheddar cheese, and while this makes me very proud it also means that I have to keep stocking up... she's found all my hiding places.
The best flights from Bristol do the trip in 13hrs 20min, which rises to 20 hrs with a longer connection at AMS, but either way I think will be easily within the time frame allowed.
But first I have some work I should be doing...
Mendip be careful its been mentioned that possibly people wishing to fly in the future may need to have the vaccine before travelling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendip
^ Good point Chico... I'll keep a look out at latest developments.
Maybe by February they'll be available privately for a fee?