Daily Moan

[panama hat]

Let's just winge and project some negative stereotypes shall we?

You mean follow your example?

In a tropical country covered with trees, there are reasons to cut down trees, can't you think of any?

Any country, but in your haste to 'defend' any sleight thrown on Asia/Asians you missed, as usual, the main crux of his point:

Perhaps the trees were getting to end of life but surely cutting half now and replacing with some advanced new trees and maybe doing the other half in a couple of years. Twelve mature trees just gone.

Yea . . . you look the right idiot again now, don't you OhNoooooo

[Mendip]

Coincidentally, a guy with a chainsaw was wandering around our way yesterday.

We had some lovely 'acacia' trees on vacant land near us and they were cut down. I would say he wasn't a trained tree surgeon.



The second tree fared slightly better...



I rescued the third tree by saying he wasn't allowed to cut it down as it wasn't his land. It's not my land either but it did the trick.



I appreciate that these guys need to make a living... but this wood all goes into charcoal pits if they can even be bothered to collect it all, which I can never get my head around. It just seems a waste of lovely trees, and it makes a choking smoke if they decide to make the charcoal nearby.

[HuangLao]

Coincidentally, a guy with a chainsaw was wandering around our way yesterday.

We had some lovely 'acacia' trees on vacant land near us and they were cut down. I would say he wasn't a trained tree surgeon.



The second tree fared slightly better...



I rescued the third tree by saying he wasn't allowed to cut it down as it wasn't his land. It's not my land either but it did the trick.



I appreciate that these guys need to make a living... but this wood all goes into charcoal pits if they can even be bothered to collect it all, which I can never get my head around. It just seems a waste of lovely trees, and it makes a choking smoke if they decide to make the charcoal nearby.

Oh dear.
Some just don't get it.

[cyrille]

Some just don't get it.

Quoting a post with several pictures just to add a pointless couple of lines?

Yeah, complete twats, eh?

[Mendip]

^^ I don't get why they cut down a tree yet often don't bother to collect the wood and let it rot. I don't get why they kill a tree rather than leave it alive and harvest it for wood during the future. I don't know what I'm not getting here, but am very interested to learn...

A gang that went through a couple of years ago just took the lower branches of each tree and left them alive for future harvesting.

[Klondyke]

Mendip,
beside the wood harvesting for charcoal - in fact I do not believe in that, the acacia wood is not good for charcoaling as other timbers are - there is another exploitation of acacia (monkeypod, Samanea Saman) wood (beside the one I have lately provided for our esteemed members quite an extensive education about):

There is a special insect residing in acacia branches. And this insect is being collected by villagers, it's a very valuable resource for making shellac. This is what the earlier born esteemed members remember as a material of gramophone record players 33 1/3, 78, 45 rpm.

But not only that, it's also very valuable for other purposes. The shellac production is not very environmentally welcome because of its ugly waste water, however, it's a good export article of Thailand.

Instead of my further detailed explanation about shellac I will place here a link, however, not sure whether the English will be well understandable as mine. If not really understood, please let me know, I will provide some pictures, sketches...
Shellac - Wikipedia

[Edmond]

Do ye guys know nothing about Thailand?

There's a new boss.

They order the trees cut down when they start to show who's boss and the power that they have. A Thai warning to the minions that they're not to be crossed, unless, they wanna get chopped down like the trees. There's even a Thai saying about it.

[HuangLao]

Do ye guys know nothing about Thailand?

There's a new boss.

They order the trees cut down when they start to show who's boss and the power that they have. A Thai warning to the minions that they're not to be crossed, unless, they wanna get chopped down like the trees. There's even a Thai saying about it.

[Joe 90]

I planted about 50 teak trees on a rai of land near the family farm oop north. Must be over a decade ago now.
Not had any pics sent over for a couple of years now,hope they're still there.
I presume 50 ten year old teak trees are a temptation to some.

[Mendip]

Klondyke, I haven't noticed the chainsaw guy checking for any insects... he seems to just enjoy lopping off branches. He leaves a trail of empty Chang tins as he progresses through the day and looks well pissed by the afternoon. I'm surprised he hasn't cut one of his limbs off to be honest.

It's not that I'm against harvesting nature's bounty, but I see very little logic or consistency here. My theory is that it's either because we're on the outskirts of Korat and there are 'city' people doing countryside jobs, or that they've had it so easy with such an abundance of produce for so long that they have never needed to be careful.

Another thing I see just now... with the rains the frogs are out and being harvested every night... I have no problem with that, but have seen many female frogs obviously full of eggs in the guy's nets. Whoever catches their prey immediately before they reproduce? That makes no sense to me.

[Joe 90]

Whoever catches their prey immediately before they reproduce? That makes no sense to me.

Maybe they eat or sell the eggs like they do with ants.

[Saint Willy]

Maybe they are just greedy and lazy

[Klondyke]

Klondyke, I haven't noticed the chainsaw guy checking for any insects...

Usually, they bring the branches to the factory where the insect is scrapped off the bark.
Sometimes, people plant straw bundles onto the acacia branches - by long sticks they hang it up. Then the bugs will gather later inside the straw.

Quite an interesting process of the shellac making. In my neighbourhood there are few such factories owned by rich old families, the lakes with the bad water are always hidden behind a firm fence. When the processing is finished, they ship out few big containers...
(I have yet to get an invitation inside to see the processing.)

[HuangLao]

Usually, they bring the branches to the factory where the insect is scrapped off the bark.
Sometimes, people plant straw bundles onto the acacia branches - by long sticks they hang it up. Then the bugs will gather later inside the straw.

Quite an interesting process of the shellac making. In my neighbourhood there are few such factories owned by rich old families, the lakes with the bad water are always hidden behind a firm fence. When the processing is finished, they ship out few big containers...
(I have yet to get an invitation inside to see the processing.)

The secrets of toxic pollution will always be hidden, as the kickbacks to the authorities/establishment make sure of this.

[helge]

I think the only country that has an inkling about trees and their maintenance and value to the quality of life is Singapore

Hmm
Once talking to my former sister in law under my 18 meter fur and she told me that in Germany (yes she was such a creature ) it wasn't allowed to take down trees with a log diameter of more than 60 centimeter without permission.



Doesn't the japanese lurve tree very very much too ?

So much that they import all their wood

Out of sight, out of....

[panama hat]

(yes she was such a creature

Ah, I knew there was a good influence on your life somewhere . . .

Maybe they are just greedy and lazy

Probably more to the point . . . and that's not just a Thai thing before we get OhNo and Klondyke's sanctimonious whining about ant-Asian posts

[OhOh]

Maybe they are just greedy and lazy

I suspect every country has their own fair quota.

[panama hat]

I suspect every country has their own fair quota

Why?

Oh, you mean throwing about an answer like this:

Let's just winge and project some negative stereotypes shall we?

... when the post you're replying to states:

Perhaps the trees were getting to end of life but surely cutting half now and replacing with some advanced new trees and maybe doing the other half in a couple of years.

[lom]

Once talking to my former sister in law under my 18 meter fur

When did you last go to a barber?

[Klondyke]

Actually - (are we still with the cut trees?) - it usually happens (at acacia) that new sprouts will shoot out very soon from the stump, especially now at the beg of summer. Then, it is good to prune them, to leave just one stem that will grow very fast.

With acacia you can get dia. 40 - 60 cm within 20 years.

[ootai]

They really are insane fuckers over trees. They cut those things down at the drop of a hat. Someone I used to know thought that Thais had a tree inferiority complex.

I really believe they don't think about what the tree actually is or does all they see is its big enough to be worth spending some energy cutting it down to get some money.
My main issue is that they cut it down take the larger good wood but leave the rest of the branches etc. in a mess.
We have one paddy that has some eucalyptus trees along one edge and when the Missus allows someone to cut them down they never clean up the tops but just leave them where they get in the way of ploughing etc. so I have to clean up their mess.

[strigils]

Neurodiversity. Was listening to Radio4 when this portmanteau came up. Wtf. Used to cover things like autism, ocd and disorders like Nevs, nutters.

[Shutree]

Usually, they bring the branches to the factory where the insect is scrapped off the bark.
Sometimes, people plant straw bundles onto the acacia branches - by long sticks they hang it up. Then the bugs will gather later inside the straw.

Quite an interesting process of the shellac making. In my neighbourhood there are few such factories owned by rich old families, the lakes with the bad water are always hidden behind a firm fence. When the processing is finished, they ship out few big containers...
(I have yet to get an invitation inside to see the processing.)

I looked it up and learned a lot more than I expected about shellac.

[strigils]

^French polish

[Shutree]

^French polish

And 78s.