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    It saddens me to see such a magnificent animal killed for meat, I cannot help feeling that.

    Besides that, I believe snake meat is much better in a soup anyway- thats the way the Chinese do it, and the only way I've tried it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
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    and throw it on a fire.
    and then feed the entire family off it.
    I don't believe that was the objective, or even a necessity. If it were, a soup or a curry as Stroller noted would have been a more careful use of this limited resource, not a neighborhood party of look what we caught in the rice paddy, let's char the meat on a log like devil may fok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang
    It saddens me to see such a magnificent animal killed for meat, I cannot help feeling that.
    Fair comment and I respect it. It all got eaten, fed a fair few people. Nothing wasted. I don't know if that makes it ok or not, but I'm pleased it wasn't a token, or sporting event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
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    Never cooked one I always buy the tinned version
    Liar, tinned snake, I think not.

    The fundamental issue here is city folk trying to lay down their priorities on people who live in the bush. First problem is that city folk have no idea.
    Good on ya JJ. Actually, left to their own defices, city slickers wouldn't recognize self-sufficiency and self-reliancy if it came up and twicked 'em on the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbkk
    I don't believe that was the objective
    But you don't know, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
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    We'll just carry on regardless.
    That's pretty much the crux of it.

    But where's the problem with that?
    No problem, just one species less. They'll have to eat bugs instead, no big deal.

    But sad, nonetheless, for sentimental towny tree-hugger type of folks like myself. What has the snake done to anyone to be hunted to extinction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbkk View Post
    I don't buy that subsistence harvesting of rare animals is what happened there, or that it was necessary at all.

    Tossing something on a burning log is typically how you cook food when you have no respect for it, because it's 'found' food.
    Stick it in the microwave John? More civilized for ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiff
    No problem, just one species less. They'll have to eat bugs instead, no big deal. But sad, nonetheless, for sentimental towny tree-hugger type of folks like myself. What has the snake done to anyone to be hunted to extinction?
    Very fair point. Snake got in the wrong place at the wrong time. Such is life, or not, as the case may be.
    As far as extinction is concerned, surely that's the way of nature? Always has been and always will be. Species come and go.

    IMHO communities in the bush, be it Thailand, Australia, Africa or where ever, are unlikely to be creating the environmental ravages that we see perpetrated by so called western/developed societies.

    The knee jerk reactions of the air conditioned townies in their condos and their cars is really rather sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
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    I don't believe that was the objective
    But you don't know, do you?
    Nor do you. But as they say, a picture speaks a thousand words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Lazy Abos? Was that before or after the conscious and deliberate extermination?
    What has settlers shooting abos got to do with their laziness?

    [Aboriginals had] "bestowed no labour upon the land - their ownership, their right, was nothing more than that of the Emu or the Kangaroo." - Sydney Herald 1838

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud
    [Aboriginals had] "bestowed no labour upon the land - their ownership, their right, was nothing more than that of the Emu or the Kangaroo." - Sydney Herald 1838
    And..?
    Do you take everything you read at face value, and assume it to be true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbkk
    Nor do you. But as they say, a picture speaks a thousand words.
    Maybe. I've lived in remote rural communities in various countries for a fair while now. I must say that I've come to respect the innate ability of the people to maintain a balance in their country. To live as one, if that doesn't sound to gay.

    That ability seems to have come about through experience and a fundamental need to survive. A balance if you will. I've rarely seen remote communities abuse their country. I have seen so called "developers" destroy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Stick it in the microwave John? More civilized for ya?
    I don't think it would cook well in a microwave, and might even 'pop' - but I don't expect you to know much about that, as you're usually wrong.

    Think it would definitely need to be cooked outside due to the gamey-ness of it. I guess the precise technique is up to you and if I had an Ethiopian distended belly and needed to hunt endangered species for food I'd probably not think too much about details. But, as I said, that doesn't appear to be the case (from the photos) here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorTud View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    Lazy Abos? Was that before or after the conscious and deliberate extermination?
    What has settlers shooting abos got to do with their laziness?

    [Aboriginals had] "bestowed no labour upon the land - their ownership, their right, was nothing more than that of the Emu or the Kangaroo." - Sydney Herald 1838
    Sorry Tuddy but on this one you are but to be ignored.

    I don't know if you're trying to be provocative for the sake of it, or just plain ignorant. I'll assume the former and leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
    I've rarely seen remote communities abuse their country.
    You've seen it here. It's right in front of you. You don't need to check your reason at the door just because you live here and are invested in it as a refugee from <insert Western country here>.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
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    Even Rolf Harris recognises Aboriginals are lazy. "Let me Abos go loose, Lou… They're of no further use, Lou."
    So you base your evidence on the comments of Rolf Harris. Excellent.


    The full blood aboriginals ( excellent people ) living in the dry communities up north could not be considered lazy but the scum living in the cities causing havoc, getting on the piss day and night, stealing cars and bashing people can only be considered lazy when they are not engaged in the above activities.

    Fok, we don't want to start on this subject or we will be here for all eternity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbkk View Post

    If it were, a soup or a curry as Stroller noted would have been a more careful use of this limited resource
    Just a question like, Stroll still eating the neighbors dogs ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnbkk
    I don't believe that was the objective, or even a necessity. If it were, a soup or a curry as Stroller noted would have been a more careful use of this limited resource, not a neighborhood party of look what we caught in the rice paddy, let's char the meat on a log like devil may fok.
    whateva.

    you've had your moan. time to shut up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawty View Post



    Always intrigued me why the abos could not be fcuked to do something simple like that. Instead they pull it out of the flames all charred and covered in soot and charcoal and dirt and shit and ho into it.


    Yes well, if you had just knocked over a carton of Fosters and were pissed of your brain you'd do the same thing.

    Not hard matey.

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    I'm with the naysayers here. Yup, I'm a townie & a Westerner. I don't think that has anything to do with me seeing photos of a magnificent animal (and if it is a Burmese python, it is protected by law) being killed & feeling saddened.
    I don't think that the 'in the sticks they have to eat everything that comes their way or they'll starve' argument holds much water. In another thread you were going on about the 500 kilos of rice Joy & you are storing, JJ. You were talking in your OP about a night in with the telly. Nobody's starving in this thread. That animal was killed & eaten because it could be - possibly even for novelty & rarity value or for sexual vigour. The fact that no-one even knew or cared that it was endangered or what that means is doubly saddening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiff View Post
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    [Aboriginals had] "bestowed no labour upon the land - their ownership, their right, was nothing more than that of the Emu or the Kangaroo." - Sydney Herald 1838
    And..?
    Do you take everything you read at face value, and assume it to be true?
    Of course he does, he's a twat as well as a Eurocentric racsist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    The full blood aboriginals ( excellent people ) living in the dry communities up north could not be considered lazy
    In fact many are living as they have for thousands of years. Rustling up your own food from the bush is bloody hard work and one has to be careful not to expend more energy than you can catch. So when opportunity presents, like a big fat snake sliding by, you have to take it because you may not get the chance tomorrow. In this case killing the snake is essential to your survival.
    In this regard there are similarities between the modern day rural people of Thailand and the aborigines of Australia except that the aboriginal is/was far more nomadic due to the need to frequently find new food sources. Also the aboriginal ate entirely off the land and did not grow crops or animals, whereas the Thais did/do a bit of both and were/are far less nomadic.
    The nomadic aborigines were close to their environment as I am sure the rural Thais were. They probably both understood their dependence upon the environment and how various plants and animals could be exploited to sustain life. However, when they overexploited a particular animal it would not be there when they wanted it next. There is evidence, in the case of the aboriginies at least, that they developed an understanding of this concept, and needed to if they were to survive in a generally harsh climate.
    I am sure many beautiful Burmese Phythons have been eaten in the past and many more will be eaten in the future. However, I wonder whether any consideration was given to how this particular animal fitted into the scene and whether or not it was beneficial in any way other than as a food source. These snakes are often very beneficial to crop farmers as they feed on rats, mice and birds and may help to maintain a balanced vermin load on crops such as corn. The snake is considered a near threatened species and unless it is a threat to human life, it really should be conserved.

    As for the "discussion" about the aboriginies, we really need to look at the way in which they were treated in their own land before we can be too judgemental about their present behaviours. As Tezz says, lets not get onto this track, however I feel that I have to put my penny's worth in by saying that in my experience, many people of aboriginal descent are far more understanding of injustices, and are more compassionate than many europeans. Perhaps the fact that many have experienced these things first hand, often on a regular basis makes them so. For sure there are plenty of drunks amongst aboriginies, but to be fair they are really just a product of the environment provided for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    Language problem, you mean machete?
    A machete is probably the best implement for sending those constrictors to heaven. But it has to be sharp. Those buggers are incredibly tough and muscular. Take a lot of killing with a blunt instrument, unlike their poisonous cousins who can be dealt with using a piece of heavy gauge fencing wire.

    They can do what they like in the bush, but not in my back yard. The bastards kill the ducks even though they dont eat them. Sent about 6 of them to eternal bliss so far and relocated a few others.

    Actually cooked up a fillet of one of the bigger buggers and it wasn't very nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandajoy View Post
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    No problem, just one species less. They'll have to eat bugs instead, no big deal. But sad, nonetheless, for sentimental towny tree-hugger type of folks like myself. What has the snake done to anyone to be hunted to extinction?
    Very fair point. Snake got in the wrong place at the wrong time. Such is life, or not, as the case may be.
    As far as extinction is concerned, surely that's the way of nature? Always has been and always will be. Species come and go.

    IMHO communities in the bush, be it Thailand, Australia, Africa or where ever, are unlikely to be creating the environmental ravages that we see perpetrated by so called western/developed societies.

    The knee jerk reactions of the air conditioned townies in their condos and their cars is really rather sad.
    Quite right.

    Destruction of habitat is a far more serious threat to various species than culling a few individuals. Clear a acre of bush for condos and how many creatures must cease to exist as a result.? Its an unseen extermination process, unlike the emotive presentation of one individual specimen being killed.

    The bush is like the soil to a farm. Treat it right and it will produce year after year. Take away the soil and you have no more crops, --- ever!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda
    They can do what they like in the bush, but not in my back yard.
    Exactly.
    Once a python has found your chicken/duck/pig pen then it keeps coming back time after time.
    You either kill it or lose them all.
    That's the way it works in my village.
    The pythons are not hunted only killed when found stealing livestock.

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