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    Foriegner registration at a residence

    can any one advise of methods to get a foriegners name registered on a chanote or housebook etc ?

    I have had some enquiries made which have said they need a copy of passport ( easy ) and a copy of birth certificate ( hard )

    what other types have people done - I imagine it will vary slightly from amphur to amphur

    and what about alien registration with police stations etc ? I normally put on my card when I arrive the name of the hotel which I stay one night in bangkok before I travel , but in reality I should have myself registered with the local police station ( I believe )

    does anyone do this , and what forms etc are needed and what paperwork is returned
    If you torture data for enough time , you can get it to say what you want.

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    I got mine at Jomtien Immigration office.

    All I had was my passport copy, a copy of the tambien Barn signed by my wife and notorised by a legal entity and presented those documents and they gave me an official document of registration signed and stamped by an officer.

    I believe this document is only valid for a period of 6 months though.

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    to get your name registered on a chanote is next to impossible, unless you are the owner or joint owner of a condo.

    foreign owners of condos can get a special aliens housebook, the yellow book, from their local tessabaan office, but it is a complicated procedure needing a ton of documentation ( birth certs, purchase documents, passport etc. that have to be verified by your embassy and then officialy translated into thai and then verified again stamped by the ministry of foreign affairs.

    the procedure probably varies depending on the province, but it was a lengthy nightmare getting it done in hua hin


    for those who own houses and land through a company there is probably an equally tortuous procedure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    I imagine it will vary slightly from amphur to amphur
    Yes ,it seems that way ........ this may help https://xpat.life/thailand/tabien-baan

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    ^ nice link

    have you done this before ?

    you will have to be registered at your address with the immigration department
    I will keep reading their forum - I see brit is in residence there



    http://www.local.moi.go.th/2009/home_en
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    2. Question : What do the house-master/owner or possessor of the residence have to do,if the alien granted temporary stay in Thailand has stayed in his/her house/residence? (Is it possible for an agent to do for?)

    Answer : He/She (The owner of the residence) must notify (by the Form TM.30) to the competent official Of the Immigration Office located in the same area of that house/residence within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien. However, such notification could be made in person or by an agent or sent with completed Form( TM.30) by registered post.
    http://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/base.php?page=faq
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ^ nice link

    have you done this before ?

    I have a Yellow House ,I was one of the first in Surin to have one,I sure it's very different today than it was back then.
    you will have to be registered at your address with the immigration department

    I will keep reading their forum - I see brit is in residence there
    I know people that have extensions from Pattaya and have been told by Kap Cheong that you must report in Chonburi if your extension was made there even though they are staying in Surin.
    Imagination use the rules as they see fit.To be on the safe side report to Kap Cheong and your wife may/will have fill in a TM30 House-masters form.
    Last edited by boloa; 15-12-2015 at 01:30 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boloa
    To be on the safe side
    this is also part of my thinking - with the escalation of doing things by the book and more computerisation it may be worth the effort to save hassle further down the line

    I have never visited the Kap Cheong immigration yet but I may investigate if there are any agents to deal with them - a bit of baht outlay to an agent to make things straightforward and painless may be a good investment

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by boloa
    To be on the safe side
    this is also part of my thinking - with the escalation of doing things by the book and more computerisation it may be worth the effort to save hassle further down the line

    I have never visited the Kap Cheong immigration yet but I may investigate if there are any agents to deal with them - a bit of baht outlay to an agent to make things straightforward and painless may be a good investment
    I don't think you you find any agents in these parts

    I think it all depends what Visa/extension you are on. If you are on a Multi-entry then the address your put on your Arrival/departure card should have you covered.No doubt if your wife/partner hasn't filled in a TM30 they could always take issue with that, if the fancy takes them !

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    Only slightly related as it's about Bangkok;

    BUT Chaengwattana will let a foreigner "self sign" that TM.30 form with NO copies of the landlords thai I/D or Thabien Baan book at all.

    In fact I suggest to anyone getting any extension of stay at Chaengwattana to fill out the TM.30 and turn it in at the special TM.30 desk in the 90 day reporting room. Then staple the receipt they give you back into your passport and you're done.

    I asked the officer, what if I travel around thailand or leave the country BUT come back to my same address do I need to do it again.. She said, NO, only IF you change your address. <-Again, that's bangkok, so not all that helpful to you guys..

    I don't know shit from Shinola about getting listed on a house book here (no matter what color) or on a chanote.. I have a very specific skill-set and those things ain't in it.

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    The yellow house book is good to get, if you can, each amphor has different rules, Ubon is easy, friend got his processed in 20 minutes.
    My amphor had never registered a farang, guy kept coming up with excuses, but in the end I didn't need any documents from the embassy, just witnesses.

    In saying that, the wife's house book has my name on it, as father of the children.

    Having yellow book has some slight advantages for visas, it also gives you a citizen number, not citizenship.
    That number will then appear on your driving license, so to the average Thai cop etc it's as good as an Thai ID card, no need for passports for planes, hotels and other things.

    It also [here] may be different elsewhere, can be used at your local hospital, they think you are Thai.

    So worth having if you can get it, not going to make a big difference if you can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    not going to make a big difference if you can't.
    I dont think I can go the tabian baan - yellow house book - because I just come in on a 30 day permission to stay

    the TM30 should be filled out by the householder and the TM28 filled out by the alien - as far as I can understand

    Immigration Bureau

    I am just looking for some sort of official looking twaddle showing that I am staying at a residence in thailand while I am here ( other than that fcuked up idea called marriage ) - tax and travel thing for a foriegn company

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    Our local dept has a huge new office and officer with a long list of all farangs who is actively seeking out overstayers in C Rai, an American who knows him well has been enlisted to help and it seems he is minded to make home visits it seems new regime was jolted after Erawan bomb, like all such new brooms he's keen but the rest seem as dozy as possible and one gets drunk with my neighbours and I wouldn't be sure he can count beyond lunch money.
    Last time I entered I was asked to spell and give a full address for the first time in 20 years, a sin of the times
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick
    dont think I can go the tabian baan - yellow house book - because I just come in on a 30 day permission to stay
    Depends on the Amphor, friend got his yellow book in Ubon, fly in out oil worker, married.
    Think all he need was the house buying papers and a letter from the tourist police saying he live there.

    Don't hurt to ask at the Amphor and you never know your luck.

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    baldrick; as far as Chaengwattana is concerned foreigners can do the TM.30 themselves.

    I told them about other places making the foreigner get the owners thai i/d, house book, etc, and they laughed at me.

    They took the form out and showed me it's written in the title of the form; TM.30 Notification From For House-Master, Owner Or The Possessor Of The Residence Where Alien Has Stayed. Chaengwattana interprets that as we (the person renting) are the possessor of the residence.

    As I said, it's only Bangkok, so dunno that it'd help you.. I did mine TM.30 myself and I've had about 10-15 other people do theirs themselves when they were doing 90 day reports or extensions and all of them flew right thru.

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    If for a foreign company, your embassy may do it. US embassy does it via a notorized form.

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    What are you worried about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper
    What are you worried about?
    money and travel days

    POI - point of origin

    as the rules change , thus we must adapt to the vagaries of HR

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    ^
    Can you say that in layman's English?
    If you're worried about being pulled up and not having the right paperwork I wouldn't be.
    If that's what you're saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper View Post
    ^
    If you're worried about being pulled up and not having the right paperwork I wouldn't be.
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    I concur .....As long as you put the address you're staying at baldrick on your Arrivals Card you should be fine .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper
    If you're worried about being pulled up and not having the right paperwork I wouldn't b
    no - this is for some other stuff for HR

    but I am also saying that in a computerised world being pulled up and having out of date paperwork is a source of worry - and the computers are accelerating fast , so planning forward is not a bad idea

    Quote Originally Posted by boloa
    As long as you put the address you're staying at baldrick on your Arrivals Card you should be fine .
    I put the address of the hotel I stay the first night

    the system is archaic , but that is unlikely to be a defense

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    Agreed.
    But if you have a brain, decent job and ultimately contribute in whatever way to the country, out of date or incorrect paperwork is never an issue. Sure, might be delayed an hour but no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper
    contribute in whatever way to the country
    apart from my HR issues - fcukin french - thinking that the bureacracy will take that into account with out signed and stamped invoices is naive - they will bend you over and extract if they have the option even if you have the thai flag tattoed across your date

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    Can you speak and reason in Thai?
    If not then you're probably right.
    If you can then you should have no issues.

    Moral of the story-learn to speak Thai.
    Fvck the reading and writing but if you can speak it and comprehend it you can deal with everything easily unless you are an utter cvnt.
    I'm assuming you're not mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper
    reason in Thai?
    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper
    I'm assuming you're not
    and I am proud of it

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    There's a method to the madness

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