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    Extending a 30 day visa exempt stamp.

    A friend wants to extend his 30 day visa on arrival, exempt stamp. He arrived from UK 3 weeks ago.
    Can he extend at any immigration office? What are the costs? What paperwork does he need?
    If this is a non-starter, can he fly out and get another 30 day exempt stamp when he returns?
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    Immigration said they can be extended for 30 days.
    Don;t know what the conditions are, non most likely.

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    1900bt, 1 month extension (2 if he has Thai family).

    If in Bangkok, Chaeng Wattana is best. Bit of a slag to get to from the centre (take bts to morchit then cab)

    Allow half a day all in including travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui
    What paperwork does he need?
    2 photos.
    photocopy of passport info page.
    photocopy of passport page with current entry/exit stamp on it.

    + obviously his real passport

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    Thanks fellas. Will pass it on.

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    At least at Chaengwattana they only need a single copy of;
    photo page of your passport
    current entry stamp
    TM-6 departure card

    You use form TM.7 (Application for Extension of Temporary Stay). The price is 1900baht. Just so you know, the price of ANY extension of stay no matter the duration is always 1900baht.

    NOW be forewarned, there is some conjecture about them not handing out these 30 day extensions willy-nilly to every Tom, Dick & Somchai who applies for it. There is a sign posted at Chaengwattana (in English and Thai) which say IF you don't meet the criteria "due to imcomplete qualifications" to get a 30 day extension of you ONLY get the "7-dayz-2-get-outta-Dodge" emergency extension. It also says there is NO appealing this decision.




    Allegedly some offices are requiring additional proof like you're leaving thailand with in the next 30 days and have sufficient funds to cover your expenses for the next 30 days. I haven't seen it first hand with any of the people I've shepherded thru, so couldn't comment.

    Also while the above signage says "30 day visa exempt" they also give that 30 day extension to people from countries who only get 15 day visa exempt stamps at land crossings too.

    It is also my first hand experience that you shouldn't use your condo OR you wife's house addy when you apply for a 30 day extension on a visa exempt stamp.

    Obviously if you have either of those things what you aren't in the eyez of the thaiz is a frickin' tourist. Immigrations can and sometimes does ask you why you don't have the appropriate visa? It goes smoother if you put down a hotel address where you're 'staying' in thailand and never causes a hiccup..

    Good Luck. . .

    Oh, one more thing. Where you go in Bangkok to get a 30 day extension on a visa exempt stamp IS NOT the same area that you go to get a "60 day extension" to visit your thai wife or half-thai child.

    Those are different areaz and different animalz entirely...
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    Big tanks for the full monty response as usual Todd. When do I get the bill?

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    No bill will be forthcoming, but just remember;

    While I am indeed pretty much a hardcore straight talkin' asshole; I do honestly try to let people know what's what (here in Bangkok) about thai visaz/extensions.

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    The few times I've been to Cheang Wattana (sp?) I've got there early, if he does that he should... be done and out by 10 o'clock!

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    Cheers jizzy. He is 'darn sarf'.

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    Shouldn't one bear in mind that the address you use to apply for the extension should be the same as the address you gave when entering Thailand?

    I remember about 15 years ago a friend applied for an extension and was verbally roasted for not previously notifying immigration of a change of address.

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    Bogon Tip #299

    Download the TM.7 form and fill it in before you go. (think you may need to stick a passport sized picture on it aswell).

    They won't give you a queue number unless you have filled it out.

    It can make the difference from being #5 in the line to being #55, thus saving you an extra hour or so of waiting.
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    Cheers Bogon. Will advise accordingly.

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    Good tip there "Bogon"...

    Here's the link for the forms;
    Thai Immigrations Forms

    It's the third one down called appropriately "Extension of Temporary Stay in The Kingdom Application Form" (TM. 7).

    It's a two page form but print it on one piece of paper front & back. In Bangkok they won't take two separate pages..

    I was out there last week with a couple people in tow at about 9:30 and they were done and finished within 15 minutes. The workers in the area said it's usually a ghost town until just before lunch when it becomes the mad house it is for the rest of the day.

    As an aside to Gazza; Sheesh, I doubt they even enter your address off the arrival card you hand them. I've got my departure card (from 7 years ago) stapled in my passport and I have abso-tively posi-lutely NO idea what address I put on the other half of the card!! Never been asked about it either.

    Are you sure your friend wasn't applying for a yearly extension of stay after moving from one province to another? That is when you are supposed to notify Immigrations within 24 hours of the move.

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    My friend wasn't married at the time and I think he had a tourist or non-immi 'e'. Sorry, I posted a little hastily and later realised it was actually around 20 years ago and not 15 so it was well before pcs and immi databases. And...I later recalled that he said he had written the application in red ink, hence probably why he got a verbal roasting.
    Apologies for that.

    Addresses are definitely entered from arrival cards because 8-9 years ago I re-entered Thailand at Mae Sot and gave a different address to see what the Immi official would do. I didn't falsify the address but just changed the way it looked by making it shorter. He asked me if I had changed my address, but at the same time as I handed him my mc license he twigged on as to what I had done. He looked at the address on the licence and handed it back to me.

    I'd be interested to know what the ruling is regarding notification of changing addresses. I've always put down the same address every time because quite simply it's my home and because;
    1. In the event of an accident or being hospitalised, my next of kin can be tracked down and notified.
    2. If someone tries to use my passport when trying to leave Thailand and are questioned, then they may have memorised my bio data but they won't know what address is in the immi's database.

    Also, a few times at Mae Sot and Chaengwattana I've been asked for my mobile number. I don't know if that goes into their databases or not. Anyone know the exact reason for the number?

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    Interesting development at Chonburi Immigrations in Jomtien..

    Previously at Jomtien, when people were applying for a 30 day extension on an 15/30 day visa exempt stamp (allowed since last August by the new Police Order 327/2557) they were being told, they'd get 7 days for the 1900baht but for between 3000-5000baht they could get the 30 days legally allowed. Strange that people who paid the inflated price only got a receipt for 1900baht.

    As of two days ago, they stopped that funny business and now everyone gets the 30 day extension on their visa exempt stamp for the correct price 1900 baht with no strong arm tacticz..

    However due to that place being over-run with foreigners from an hour before they open until an hour after they close, they won't give you an extension until your permission to stay stamp is almost expiring.. People who show up early are told to come back closer to or on the expiration date.. Unlike Bangkok where you can show up anytime during your permission to stay and apply for another 30 days..

    At least it's a step in the right direction although I don't see how they got away with it for as long as they did in the first place..

    Oh Gazza; the mobile number has been required on extensions of stay, re-entry permits and 90 day reports in Bangkok for a good while now. I stood behind an officer and watched as she typed in a mobile number. It had the persons entire history of extensions, entriez/exitz into the country and 90 day reporting history pop up on the screen.

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    In Udon, they only seem to want to give 7 days. I just had a friend from the UK try exactly what Chass is decscribing and they told him 7 days only. Since we are not far from Nong Khai, I took him up to the border since I needed to renew my 90 days and we just entered Laos (1500 baht for Lao visa) and then just came back into Thailand without even goin into town.

    I received another 90 days on my 1 year, muliple entry O Visa and he received another 30 days at the Thai border. Very simple process and less than 1900 baht.

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    Interesting story there "rickschoppers";

    Because inquiring minds want to know, (but really because I'm a nosy fcuk) I just called the Udon Thani Immigrations office at 04-224-9982.

    Seeing as I won't speak thai outta the gate with ANY thai, I was transferred to a guy who spoke really good english. I said I came into the country and received a 30 day visa exempt stamp. I was traveling around thailand but was now in Udon and needed a 30 day extension to the visa exempt stamp. He said bring in your passport, pay 1900 baht and they'd issue it to me..

    Perhaps your "friend" wasn't as persuasive as I was. I didn't speak word one o' thai to that guy yet he seemed dialed in to the fact that as of August last year people could get a 30 day extension on either a 15 or a 30 day visa exempt stamp...

    Go figure

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    Interesting Todd. Did you happen to get his name? You can PM me if you would rather not give it on this thread. Did he say he was one of the officers who granted entensions?

    The reason I ask is because I have been given the same treatment as my UK friend in the Udon immigration office. Are we not asking the right way, or do we need to be more assertive? I went in one time to ask about an extension for a married visa I obtained from the US and the officer told me 7 days, which I knew was wrong.

    I have also been told different answers for the same questions in Udon which is one of the reasons I dislike dealing with them. Others on this site have said they have no problems. Go figure.

    I guess the question is do I go in and be more forceful, or do I worry about them not giving me what I need by not being more forceful?
    Last edited by rickschoppers; 20-02-2015 at 11:28 AM.

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    Just a note on the OP. Mate got his 30 days ext in Surat immi and is back in UK now.

    A note on all officers desks in Thai and English now reads that visa exempt extensions will only be issued a total of four times, then the applicant must cross the border?
    Don't know if this is a local rule or a national issue?

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    Sorry Rick; I didn't get his name, Someone picked up the phone said Dta Maw Udon (ต.ม. อุดร) and I opened with "You can speak english, yes?"

    BTW: I don't even waste time on pleasantries when I'm tryin' to compel thaiz to speak english... He was just the guy they gave the phone too.

    chassamui;
    Nope, it ain't a national rule as there's NO rule written about it (yet!!).

    If I had to bet, I'd wager it's that loose screw who runs Division 6 outta Phuket which covers the south and who makes up policy when ever he feels like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    If I had to bet, I'd wager it's that loose screw who runs Division 6 outta Phuket which covers the south and who makes up policy when ever he feels like it.
    If someone offers you decent odds, take that bet.

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