You may ask, how much was that to build?

**olavhome** · 15-10-2011, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I am more concerned about the noise coming out of the kitchen, wash/rinse/spin dry when you are using it which would be daily not to mention the smell of dirty clothes.

blimey, do you sit and read in the kitchen, or do you need quiet so that you can concentrate on the recipes?

our kitchen is a hub of activity and any machine noise gets swamped

as for dirty clothes smelling, maybe wash them sooner, but as I said, they just come from the laundry baskets and are dumped in the machine so don't sit about

if the kitchen is big enough and not used as a western style kitchen/diner, I am happy for a machine to be in there

I agree. Have washing machine in mykitchen in Norway today and no problem. Dont need use bathroom space. Also you dont wash chothes 24/7. Can do when not in kitchen. Will do same when make house in LOS in 3 years. Personal opinion: House look nice, colour is personal choice

sabaii sabaii · 15-10-2011, 02:39 AM

Most people in the UK have washing machines in their kitchens, next to the sink, where it is plumbed into.

**BigRed** · 15-10-2011, 05:03 AM

Plumb an LG Direct Drive machine in, pretty much silent.

LG F1256QD Direct Drive Washing Machine - White | Dixons |

quieter than the fan on my desktop anyway. (off topic now) I don't get this washing rubbish. How do women claim they have been washing all day? You throw the clothes in and select the cycle, 5 min max. You then wait around 2 hrs until it beeps at you to say it is done, take it out into the tumble drier or washing line, another 5 mins maximum. Once a month I go in and remove all the coins and assorted crap that was left in the pockets and is now blocking the drainage system. They still wash things on the wrong cycle despite the idiot proof labels with symbols and persist in overloading the machine and screwing the bearings

**sabang** · 15-10-2011, 05:17 AM

Originally Posted by jandajoy

I'm sorry but IMHO that looks awful. But, too each their own.

Looks fine to me.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

The fan and the chandelier, in my view, clash terribly.

Yep, except for that. Wouldn't have gone with the chandelier- it clutters the look. Easily fixed though.

I'd put it around a 6-8mm house in Pattaya terms, unless it's in a desirable location in which case the price obviously goes north. That's on a 'walk in' sale basis- a new buyer having it built to spec will pay more.

Have prices moved much in Pattaya though LT? My pricing may be 2 or 3 years old.
Incidentally, hang the expense- I'd definitely have gone for one of those 'Infinity' pools with a decent house like that.

**Fondles** · 15-10-2011, 09:20 AM

Cracking looking joint LT, kudo's to your missus, it's definitely somewhere that I would be proud to park my ass and relax during the morning dump.

**SEA Traveler** · 15-10-2011, 09:20 AM

Thanks LT and Mrs for the christening get together at the new build. Food plentiful and tasty, beer cold, and company agreeable. Sort of felt like one of those time share promotions where I got a tour of the house and grounds before I got my food, drinks and free promotional gift. 555! Anyway, I could see that the purchaser was happy with the build. Job well done by the Mrs...and to you for keeping her on track and providing guidance. Cheers Mate...

sabaii sabaii · 15-10-2011, 12:28 PM

Fair play to you LT for starting a thread where you were bound to get some criticism, which you have took in your stride

The customer's happy, that is all that matters and it's their input and sense of style that has made the house what it is

Everyone has different tastes but personally I quite like it and congratulations to your wife on a job well done.

I bet she's learned a lot from this project for the future

All the Best Mate

**Loy Toy** · 15-10-2011, 12:59 PM

Thanks for all the positive comments fellas and ST (and your missus) your attendance last night and in spite of your ongoing pressure at home.

The chandelier is absolutely horrible in my opinion but it was something the owner had in a lock-up for a couple of years and wanted to put it somewhere.

Originally Posted by sabang

Have prices moved much in Pattaya though LT?

The location of the house is directly opposite our house at LV so the location is considered desirable being so close to Pattaya central and the motorway exit entrance.

The whole point of this thread was to present to my fellow members of this forum an open and honest example of what can be done and if you design, purchase all the materials, oversee the labour and finish off the property yourself.

The final investment for such a house and land is 6.5 million Baht and as I have mentioned 2 of the most established real estate agents have valued the house at around 12 million baht. Whether they achieve a sale is in the lap of the gods and doesn't affect my wife and I either way.

It is almost impossible to project the flow of a house by way of a few pictures but I got the feeling SEA traveller and his wife were quite impressed during the walk though. In fact they eyed up some ideas they may incorporate in their own house so I was pleased about that.

So final breakdown investment:

1. Land 1.5 million Baht.
2. House build a little less then 4,000,000 Baht or around 13,000 baht per square metre.
3. Pool including pumps and filters 220,000 Baht.
4. Furniture 700,000 Baht
5. Others 150,000.00

sabaii sabaii · 15-10-2011, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

The location of the house is directly opposite our house at LV so the location is considered desirable

Before someone else jumps in, is that the house that was under a metre of water a few weeks back

**Loy Toy** · 15-10-2011, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by sabaii sabaii

Before someone else jumps in, is that the house that was under a metre of water a few weeks back

No mate, dry as a bone.........

**pkspirate** · 17-10-2011, 07:15 PM

ya when we built our kitchen we discussed overhead cabinets and decided they are pointless in Thailand. Thai people are too short to reach anything in them lol. we opted for wrap-around windows instead.

nice looking house. i suppose the arched hallway entrance is my favorite feature. rare to see that finish in Thailand. they favor square corners.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

**flyingscotsman** · 17-10-2011, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by The Master Cool

Can't say that I really like it. It comes across as a 1970s or 80s new-money tryhard.

Can't agree - not like the 70's or 80's I remember!

Originally Posted by Liveinlos

Dark floors, dark cabinet and dark patterns in the curtains in a white house? Clearly this is NO interior designer.

The darkness ruined this house in my opinion. White is light and airy and opens up the interior. This to me is just horrible. The dark floors are a disaster.

Can't agree either - why does every house have to reflect the "good" (ie conventional) taste of an interior designer or architect.

Originally Posted by Jandajoy

Hmm... it seems "bitty" to me. No flow.
I don't understand the straggly bits crawling up either side of the arch..
The fan and the chandelier, in my view, clash terribly.
Finally, though it's personal taste, the floor.
Apart from that, the whole thing seems to me to lack flow. A weird mismatch of styles and ideas, Mac Donalds meets Paris Hilton.
Sorry, that doesn't make a lot of sense, does it.
To each their own in my view.
Good luck to 'em all.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

He likes the rustic look.

Got it in one LT!

On the whole I think your good lady has done a pretty damn good job. Of course, there are details I wouldn't personally go for, as have already been id'd, but, all in all, I like it. But then I'm a retiree who can't afford a house like that but can still appreciate it without having to kow-tow to an architect's or designer's text-book tastes. It really is a matter of personal taste.

Good on you both!

**ShilohJim** · 17-10-2011, 08:19 PM

After reading the entire post, which I enjoyed, I congratulate you and the missus for a job I think is well done. The nay sayers be damned, your wife wasn't building it for them. Overall everyone has different "opinions" for interior design, furniture and fittings. To build what in the states is considered a "spec" house, one must maintain a rather generic look. Neutral always sells better than "personalized" and I think it's a nice house for anywhere in the world. Kudos to the missus! Green for you for sharing.

Jim

**bkkbob** · 17-10-2011, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by oxyjohn

Lovely place with everything looking top quality. Did the mrs build it of a set plan or did she plan and build. And did the buyer have any input?

My Missus says thanks Oxy.

The plans were done on a simple computer programe and changed a little as we went along.

Of course you cannot change the master plans too much from those submitted and approved by the council but things have been changed slightly.

Most of the interior colour schemes were selected by the customer as she has a set plan and normally she is correct with her judgement.

I agree with some others here her choice/ taste alligns with what elderly Europeans are looking for, not too garish or radical, pretty basic and neat.

In fact my house has similar furniture which we want to rip out as I feel it is too dated.

Anyway the purpose of this thread is to show people that a decent job can be done here at a fraction of the price if you do everything yourself.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

The plans were done on a simple computer program

Can you tell me the name of the program?
Cheers,
Bob

**ferang** · 17-10-2011, 10:02 PM

What a very nice place your wife has built, my wife & i are having a place built near Nakon Sawon, but nothing to this standard of work.

**MAE PING RESIDENT** · 17-10-2011, 11:39 PM

I wonder, what could allure your wife to consult, supervise building of a similar hous in Chiang Mai.

**MakingALife** · 18-10-2011, 12:36 AM

Good Job with this post LoyToy,

I just finished the entire thread. As well digesting the many comments and points of view expressed. I have to tell you that your wife deserves alot of Kudo's stepping into a project, and managing to press ahead, with other guidance involved for design, and client preferences to contend with. Never mind working against budget constraints, in a higher labor cost market.

Having steered a small number of construction efforts on personal projects, dealt with forced contractor changes, doing daily site QA, and doing related design work... It is a full plate, not for the timid.
Easily 3x per week sometimes more, my oversight caught work items that needed to be corrected with the work and keep the job in line. It happened way more that I ever expected it to happen.

It takes the best of intentions to manage this for someone else, on a limited fee basis, without that ability to capture the full profit potential involved. It takes a good deal of support from a spouse as well to undertake that work, and I am sure your input required a good deal of time and reflection, to help make the project successful.

The fact that it is under negotiation with a buyer, and approaching closure is a good vote from the market place, and in the end that is what makes the undertaking a success.

I could never see myself doing this kind of management work for someone else. But I believe you wife probably enjoyed the challenge, and had a good bond of friendship, to step up for a friend who needed the help... Again, she deserves Kudo's for stepping into that Arena, and so do you for making an interesting thread out of it.

You are correct, pictures cant show the flow in an floor plan. It shows what what the house contains, and thus is a good fit for a cost / construction thread.

There are enough things in this project to make it a challenge to manage and bring together. You have a lot to be proud of in your wife's initiative and capability.

Your thread is clever, pushing people to look and estimate. Good level of involvement there, and it makes this thread stand out as a construction thread. Good luck with future projects

It is a good example of what can be achieved value wise by and independent team, who takes on a general management role , even in a higher cost region

**Deano** · 18-10-2011, 01:25 AM

Hi your wife has done a very nice job and my wife wants the same i beter keep working i think. I am looking to bulid my a house upcountry and i dont know nothing about price please can you tell me how to bulid just the construction psm as this is the sort of thing we would like for our family.

sabaii sabaii · 18-10-2011, 01:39 AM

^ There's loads of Farang built houses for sale up north already bud that were once someones pipe dreams

**DrAndy** · 18-10-2011, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

The location of the house is directly opposite our house at LV so the location is considered desirable

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

The chandelier is absolutely horrible in my opinion but it was something the owner had in a lock-up for a couple of years and wanted to put it somewhere.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

and as I have mentioned 2 of the most established real estate agents have valued the house at around 12 million baht. Whether they achieve a sale is in the lap of the gods and doesn't affect my wife and I either way.

so I am still confused, LT

whose house is this, the customer with a chandelier or a potential customer from the agents

**DrAndy** · 18-10-2011, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by MAE PING RESIDENT

I wonder, what could allure your wife to consult, supervise building of a similar hous in Chiang Mai.

try someone more local

hey, my wife could help!

**laymond** · 18-10-2011, 07:52 AM

not a bad shack,i could probably force myself to camp in it.
good on the misses.

**luibkk** · 18-10-2011, 08:13 AM

Congrats to the new owner and a big thumbs up for your wife. She has done an excellent job with a limited? budget. Can't wait to see details about the price of construction, furniture, etc.

**ChiangMaiFun** · 18-10-2011, 08:46 AM

top job - very very nice

**Bung** · 18-10-2011, 09:15 AM

LT any idea on the price of those built in wardrobes? (not the big walk in one) That is the type of wood and look I am trying to get done in my place in CM

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