Bungs New Baan

**astasinim** · 02-09-2011, 11:03 PM

Looks great Bung. Just a shame it was tainted by some thieving pricks.

**Djoi** · 09-10-2011, 04:34 AM

Do you have a blue print of this small hut, and what was the price tag on this? I want to make a "hotel room" in the garden of my family in Nong Bua.

**nigelandjan** · 09-10-2011, 12:46 PM

^ Thanks for that stupid comment ,your red has been delivered

**Carrabow** · 09-10-2011, 11:49 PM

Bung,

How much did the roll up door on the work shop cost? Do you remember what widths you could get it in as well?

Would be appreciated

**Bung** · 01-04-2012, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Bung

Just bought a place in Chiang Mai and although only 2 bed it is on a 400sq/m block and have plans to add an extension across the back making a 3rd bedroom (4m x 4m) bigger lounge (out to 7m x 3m) and new kitchen (4m x 3m)

The back of the house:

I was going to just fill in the patio but after looking at the plans found the footings were a little smaller as they just had to support the patio and not more walls and a roof so I have decided to make new footings an extra metre out and make it all a little bigger in the process. From left to right will be a bedroom with ensuite, lounge and kitchen. The exsisting kitchen will become a dining room. I think I should be able to cut back into the existing roof and have a gentler slope and still have the head room The bedroom you will step down into a little. The sides will just be straight with no eaves.

Obviously the room on the left will have the window removed and bricked in, AC moved. The middle will be busted open completely and kitchen will open it by removing the door and window (down to floor level) The middle lounge I am not sure I will be able to open it completely or will need some sort of lintel?

OK, I have been saving money like a good boy and am thinking of changing my initial idea. I would like to throw it for out there for experienced comments and see if it is doable.

What I am thinking now is to go two storeys. the top storey being a nice big master bedroom with ensuite and balconey. It will be the full width of the house with the bedroom taking up just over half and an open balconey space next to it under a common roof.I only need a bedroom up there and figure it would be cheapest to just leave an open balconey next to it, maybe screened with lattice. Probably unused space but figure it would be cheapest option to just leave it open like that.

So looking at the picture it would be a nice big sunken lounge to the left and kitchen to the right. In the middle it will be open area with a staircase leading upstairs. The exsisting roof will butt up to the 2nd story wall. Upstairs will be a master bedroom to the left and balconey/patio/open area to the right under a common roof. A sliding door from the bedroom to access it.

What I am worried about is beefing up the footings alongside of the house to support a second storey. Is that feasable? Would they be able to open up the existing footings and beef them up to handle a second storey? I am thinking they would just chip away the cement down to the exsisting rebar, weld up more rebar to it, dig away the footings and do the same, form it all up to make a bigger footing? would the original footings be able to handle it? As mentioned before the central window area will be completely opened up and will need to be able to support the 2nd storey, I guess it will need a big I beam between the vertical columns to go up?

One option may be to use wood or similar lighter materials on top? I would prefer cement though to make it look the same as the rest of it. The roof will be the same tiles as before.

**Bung** · 18-11-2012, 10:32 AM

Thread resurrection time.

I have started making the extension to the back of my old house.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davevb/8194278939/

(Posting photos here is a pain in the arse as usual...)

**Bung** · 18-11-2012, 10:45 AM

https://teakdoor.com/Gallery/albums/u...11-12-0001.jpg

It's been a while but chrome doesn't seem to give a "copy image location" option nor a "get Info" (for mac users) which I used to use....

What a pain in the arse posting pics here is

**Bung** · 18-11-2012, 11:21 AM

OK. back to firefox...

So here it is, all those walls will be knocked out to open it up to the rest of the house, the one on the left being rebuilt as there is a bedroom behind it.

On the second story, master bedroom withe ensuite at one end and balcony on the other.

Here it gets interesting. The upper gable will be extended to the wall, the lower one will have a gutter running off the side of the house.

This end will be a balcony off the main bedroom, the roof will run full length. Views to Doi Suthep.

**Bung** · 18-11-2012, 11:38 AM

Here is a drawing so you get an idea of what I am doing. Note. The original house roof line is not the same as this.

The layout is master bedroom with ensuite on the upper level, lower, a kitchen to the right, lounge room on the left and open area/ stairwell in the middle. In the existing house the kitchen area will become the dining room. All up an extra 100m2.

**Necron99** · 18-11-2012, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Bung

https://teakdoor.com/Gallery/albums/u...11-12-0001.jpg

It's been a while but chrome doesn't seem to give a "copy image location" option nor a "get Info" (for mac users) which I used to use....

What a pain in the arse posting pics here is

I think it's flikr that's the problem, very unfriendly. Try imgur.

This is quite a change, being that reno is generally more expensive than building from scratch and more limiting, did you consider just razing it and starting over?

**DrAndy** · 18-11-2012, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

being that reno is generally more expensive than building from scratch

I suppose it can be but not usually

**Loy Toy** · 18-11-2012, 01:40 PM

Good luck with your build Bung but I find upstairs balconies, especially coming off a bedroom are a waste of space.

Your top view, and especially if you changed the windows is far more practical.

**DrAndy** · 18-11-2012, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Good luck with your build Bung but I find upstairs balconies, especially coming off a bedroom are a waste of space.

I have one off our guest bedroom

when we have people stay, they like to have some privacy occasionally and it is a nice place to sit and have a coffee etc

**benbaaa** · 18-11-2012, 02:22 PM

I am very jealous of your garden, Bung. For me to have a garden that size, we'd need a very smart meteorite to demolish my neighbour's place...

**alitongkat** · 18-11-2012, 02:48 PM

when floors (intermediate) are made, then there is brought "iron" into it...

are the square things on your pics the "iron mats"?

it also looks, as if they are fixed to each other by wire?

i have seen iron mats and their usage before, but never this way...

it looks weird, quite so, doesnt it?

**aging one** · 18-11-2012, 02:51 PM

^ do you ever have a nice thing to say about somebodies hard work in putting up a thread, No. Plus you dont have a clue what the heck you are talking about 99% of the time.

Looking good bung, thanks for sharing.

**DrAndy** · 18-11-2012, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by benbaaa

I am very jealous of your garden, Bung. For me to have a garden that size, we'd need a very smart meteorite to demolish my neighbour's place...

just tell Mossad that a Hamas leader lives there

**Loy Toy** · 18-11-2012, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

I have one off our guest bedroom

when we have people stay, they like to have some privacy occasionally and it is a nice place to sit and have a coffee etc

Yes, guests sometimes find these balconies unique but give me covered closed off internal space any day of the week.

Not to mention these places catch dust and birds often nest in areas that are rarely used.

Anyway with a back yard like Bung's why would one want to sit on a cement slab.

**Necron99** · 18-11-2012, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Bung

Here is a drawing so you get an idea of what I am doing. Note. The original house roof line is not the same as this.

The layout is master bedroom with ensuite on the upper level, lower, a kitchen to the right, lounge room on the left and open area/ stairwell in the middle. In the existing house the kitchen area will become the dining room. All up an extra 100m2.

Are these the drawings the Thai builders have?
You may end up with some interesting verticals.....

**alitongkat** · 18-11-2012, 04:09 PM

sometimes, its the look of high, wide doors...
open like a balcony door, with the view etc...

i think its called "french balcony", and it looks quite nice... its nothing to sit, just for some flowerpots, or hang flowers on the fence, but with celiing high doors... - balcony flair - very typical in french speaking countries...

nothing particularly beautiful, just for the different looks...

**DrAndy** · 18-11-2012, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Anyway with a back yard like Bung's why would one want to sit on a cement slab.

the view and less dust, insects and locals

**Bung** · 18-11-2012, 09:53 PM

Cheers guys, I wasn't quite sure what to do with the balcony space, the cheapest being just leave it open. It's true, I will hardly use it as I am used to going outside in my boxers first thing and do things like scratch my balls etc, having the neighbours see me upstairs at 7am doing this may not be the go. I just thought it a cheap way out of it, the master bedroom is already 4x6 metres. I could enclose it with some lattice etc and long term, when I am old and decrepid, may be a nice place to lounge and read while the grandkids are running amok downstairs....

The pictures of the drawings look weird I know. There is some photographic term for it but believe me, it is the camera.

**Bung** · 19-11-2012, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by DrAndy

I have one off our guest bedroom

when we have people stay, they like to have some privacy occasionally and it is a nice place to sit and have a coffee etc

Yes, guests sometimes find these balconies unique but give me covered closed off internal space any day of the week.

Not to mention these places catch dust and birds often nest in areas that are rarely used.

Anyway with a back yard like Bung's why would one want to sit on a cement slab.

I've been giving this some thought LT and see your point. I doubt I would use it much and the day I do will find it covered in dust and bird shit....It might be better made into an office? I will have a very nice outdoor seating area off the lounge room. My idea for the upper level was always to make it a place you could escape to and spend time. I want to have a TV and sofa etc.

**Bung** · 19-11-2012, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by Necron99

This is quite a change, being that reno is generally more expensive than building from scratch and more limiting, did you consider just razing it and starting over?

Depends on the renovation but mine will just be some paint, tiles, ceiling and roof work, no point knocking down a perfectly good 2 bed home. The extesion is basically another 100m2 house being built and that is what I am paying for. If I wanted that as well as what I alredy have I would be paying a lot more plus the cost of demolition.

**MrG** · 24-11-2012, 01:45 AM

Great looking place, Bung. I envy you the view of Doi Suthep.

I am wondering if you were lucky enough to get the same Burmese lady-builder for the new addition? I'm planning a build myself outside of Nong Khai in a couple of years and would like to contact her. Do you know if she works in those parts?

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