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    Marmite.....at first the green was a shock but it grows on ya and now I quite like it. She asked my opinion about what colour to use and I told her to paint everything black! Her response was "fuk off ya idiot". To which I answered "asking me about what colour to use is like asking a Thai to drive sensibly, fuking impossible".

    nigelandjan.....it should look like a page out of a catalogue as that's where she spent a lot of time reading and still does for ideas. We are located just off highway24 before Nang Rong as you head to Buriram from Chok Chai. So about 60kms from Buriram and about 85 kms from Nakon Ratchasima (Korat). If you do decide to visit PM me well in advance and I will give you directions etc. My advice to you now is start designing now, to build in a year. Get a plan drawn up and then try and envisage what you would want to do in that area. That will allow you to put things like power outlets etc in the right place. Already we are discovereing that we don't have an outlets where we need them. Also if you have any furnitiure that you want to keep and use in a new house measure it and build room for it. We forgot that our bed is 2m wide and now the distance between the windows where we want to put it is 1.8m. I suppose I could solve it the Thai way and cut 0.2m off one side and then put some blocks under it to replace the legs that would be missing.
    If we were doing it again (building) I would get a Thai that I could trust (nearly impossible) who was experienced in building and emply him to work for me as a supervisor overseeing the project with "our" interest as his primary objective. Remember if you employ a builder his primary objective is to make money (at your expense) on the project, your primary objective is to get value and quality for your budgeted (not more) outlay.
    Anyway good luck to you if you do build I'm sure you will need it.

    here's some more pictures..............

    the front yard, note the new colour of the steel work


    another view of the same


    and again


    planted some trees outside the main bedroom


    hopefully gonna be a hedge in the future between the front yard of the house and the shed. I told MIL she can keep it trimmed with scissors, she's already started to take over caring for the garden which means it will grow well and turn out fine.


    the missus only got the people to put down grass on a small section so she could check out their work before getting them to do anymore. She was gonna put a Sala in the middle bit between the path and the driveway but I reckoned it would block out the view of the house so she's not doing that now. Who knows what she will put there.


    a closer view of the trees outside the main bedrom


    a different view of the house


    a closer view of the grassed corner


    the "gates". The main gate has remote control. She didn't want to spend the money for the remote but I asked her if she was willing (during the rainy season) to wait for it to stop raining so she could get out and open the gate? The big and the small gates together cost 50K and the remote 25K including installation of it all.


    a view from the road


    and finally starting to unpack some of the stuff we shipped over from Aussie 6 months ago.


    I should say that I actually had a "hot" shower here last night, first time I have been able to do that in our own house in Thailand and it was great.

    until tomorrow............

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    its coming on great your misses looks like she has good taste in colours i like all greens mixed,when we done up our house in the uk.i mixed floors,wall and furniture in diff.shades of greens and the misses went nuts,but after she went to visit a rich friend who had done almost the same,the twat said youve done this nice she was so nice to me after,make sure u have enough water taps arround the garden we have 500sq mts and they only put in one.so get them to put them where you want and watch that they dont do what they done in our house knock in screws with a fuking hammer,no plugs,if you havent orded any guttering we done part of the house with windsor upvc.it looks very smart we might try and get the whole house done,got it from home mart.

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    Cheers for that Ootai some good advice mate and yes we allready have some of that in place , I remember the bed bit from before infact we will not be having as many windows as the Thais like to build full stop . There will be aircon in the bed + mabe one living area room but fans will suffice for the rest . As far as furniture is concerned her existing will stay in the old house and new will be coming all the way from Khamphangphet ( dont worry I have allready been to look at it 555 )

    As if by magic the garden pics appear ! fantastic I love that little hedge that follows your drive I have seen a lot of that grown in Korat area I think its like what we call box hedge here ( Buxus ) takes ages to grow here and trims up beautifully . I would be out there on a weekly basis trimming it .

    Never been to Burriram area mate so will be good to get some pics etc ,, I like to paint so any new material is good for me . Def will PM you nearer the day.
    Cheers and thanks for the pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai
    Dr Andy.....I'm not sure about your comment are you serious and like drains, making some sort of joke about how you feel after sexercise or as I suspect taking the piss out of me for posting a whole heap of boring pictures of my drains?
    yes, there are some good choices there!

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    taffyapple....if anyone is putting in taps it'll be me as I am the "they" you refer to. So far we don't have any just a long hose from the bore, I will run the pipes once she has organised the garden so then I will/may know where to put the taps. As for the gutters, I don't know what brand we ordered just that its white plastic and looks good in the TOA shop where we buy most of our stuff from. As for the green I will wait until she stops and then pass judgement on the finished product as I made the mistake before of not waiting and she usually comes good with something that looks good.

    nigelandjan......when you say that you like to paint, please come over soon as we still need to give the outside another coat.

    DrAndy.....obviously a politician as you gave an answer that was non-committal and said nothing that could be held against you.

    Anyway as this is the last post from me for this year I hope you all have an interesting 2011 or should I say 2554.

    These are the latest photos so you are now up to date with our progress.

    the view from the carport that keeps changing


    she's added some more red and green


    the cook top and sink etc are finished and working


    a wider view of the same thing


    another ... I swear that if I didn't drink I was pissed when I put these together seems to be a bit of repetition.


    the living area starting to take shape


    looking the other way


    so far only the bear has moved into the main bedroom


    the kids bedroom. the bed on the right come from Aussie and it requires a mattress 6ft long which is not standard here in Thailand where they are 6.5ft long.


    I thought I would put this in for nigelandjan as this is the laundry tub and is where the young kids will get washed no doubt.


    the doors for the under house vent holes to stop the dogs etc getting in there, maybe I use them to keep the dogs in instead. The gates are covered with wire mesh to allow for air flow. The air from under the house is really quite a bit cooler than outside and when you put your head close you can feel the cooler air flow so I think it might work as planned.


    constructing the lids for the leach tanks.


    I think I may have gone a bit overboard as they were very heavy to lift into place but I am sure that when some fukwit drives a truck over the tanks the lids won't break.


    have a happy new year and hopefully I'll update some more next year.

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    look forward to next years completion. happy new year to all.

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    Er Ootai thats not quite what I meant about the painting , mind you when I get retired no doubt if I lived a little closer I would give you a hand .

    Just my opinion ,, but if the cement on those green + red tiles on the kitchen splashback that were leftover from next doors patio I would whip em off quick and re do it with the same lovely 3 colour black , grey + whites on your other units,,
    Keep up the good work mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    I do like a nice drain
    I never thought I'd say this, but: the drainage pictures were quite fascinating and very well planned out.

    Generally, the whole thread is very interesting, and the house is looking great; a testament to the hard work put in by the OP and his missus.



    These are the types of things that frame the title 'amazing Thailand'...

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    The place looks great and whoever cooks should lose a few calories with all the walking that's required to get to and from the 2 halves of the kitchen.

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    taffyapple............as far as I'm concerned its finished any work left to do now is of the type you get even after having lived in a house for years, that is gardening, painting and fixing shit that breaks etc etc. I have been informed that the official day we are moving in is the 14th. I want to move earlier but must obey the powers to be i.e. the missus, the monks and the spirits (past, present and future). We moved the bed up there yesterday and slept there last night (she's worried about stuff walking away). So about the only thing that we haven't done yet is cook there so hopefully we don't upset the spirits.

    nigelandjan.......I know that not what you meant when you said you like painting but thought I'd have a crack anyway, you meant like Rembrandt and Picasso. If you ever come and visit don't repaet those comments about the red & green tiles coming from someones left over patio as she selected them especially for that spot. I agree with you though that tiles like on the other bench would look good.

    bettyboo .... thanks for the positive comments about my drains, not like some other poster here. I agree this is "amazing Thailand" and what makes it worse is I continue to discover how amazing everyday. I asked the missus this morning whether she was happy wth the end result and she is except for she reckons she would make the back patio wider as it gets the full afternoon sun and she wants a Thai style "hong nam". I'm sure we will built both some time in the future. As for me If I can get past looking at all the little things that are not up to the standard I wanted then I really like the "vibe" of the place, it feels good.

    marmite....thanks for the comment. As for the distance needing to be travelled in the kitchen there are two things that you don't know. First is there will be an island bench in the middle and secondly I have never seen less than 4 cooks in our kitchen at any one time so they will just pass the stuff around. I should point out I am never one of the cooks (I'm just a consumer) so I don't care. I fully expect that at some stage the floor in the middle will be where they all sit down and eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai
    will be an island bench in the middle
    Fair enough. That makes more sense now.

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    Wouldnt dare to be so insensitive mate ,,,,,dont worry its only light hearted banter on here from me ,,,,,,,,, I would bite me tongue and congratulate your good lady on her choice of tiles , bless her , she,s happy and thats all that matters mate.
    Funny thing about red + green though , even the saying is red + green should never be seen ,,, However one of the basic rules in art is opposites attract and generally speaking they do red + green sitting directly opposite each other on the colour wheel so it should work but in my opinion and a lot of others it dosent.
    When I paint I NEVER use green from a direct source I allways make it myself from a couple of primaries , this tends to keep the picture real .
    Hows the garden coming on ?

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    when we moved in our house the wife kept on about spirits so i went out and bought vodka,gin,whisky,barcadi they are not here anymore.

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    Well it had to come, the missus has deemed we need a Thai stlye "hong nam", we also need it before the 14th so those attending the house warming don't need to tramp through the house to piss in the toilet. So luckily I had foreseen this request, I even asked her at the design stage about building it, so I sat down and drew up a sketch and then she ordered the materials and got the nephew and a couple of others to start building.

    This is the bit about rural Thailand that I love, no red tape i.e. getting plans approved and permits etc. In Aussie it'd take months to go through the processes prior to starting the building bit.

    So here's the progress to date.

    First I dug the hole for the tank. I was trying to determine the levels so that the shit didn't have to flow up hill.


    I reckoned I had enough room so we bought some 1m high reinforced posts and stuck them in the ground then this shows getting the beams ready to be poured.


    No it wasn't a fart that did this they dropped it B4850 gone in a flash.


    My missus always spits the dummy when I insist on decent reinforcing in any slab but I tell her it needs to last me 25 years and her probably twice that.


    Even with my early calculations I think I might be pushing shit uphill. I believe that water will flow on a slope of 1in 100 so does that mean shit will flow on a slope of 1 in 50 (water assisted?). The crap comes out the blue PVC closest to the camera and then goes into the tank and the water overflow goes to the blue PVC furtherest from the camera. When I installed the other septic tanks I had an extension put in and capped ready for this.


    Pre-fabricated poles were used to save time in forming them on site. Its a long story but the poles closest to the house were supposed to go against the existing concrete so when they put them where they did, of course they were too tall. All the workers made fun of the farang engineer, until I asked them to have another look at the drawing I had given them and they realised what they'd done. So it was time for a redesign, something I am now accustomed to doing at each step.


    same thing different angle


    The floor was poured in the morning and the wall started to go up in the afternoon. The space to the left of the "hong nam" is going to be our junk room used for storage but will probably become another bedroom one day or possibly a laundry.


    from a different angle

    again


    some left over glass blocks were stuck in the wall


    another view from the south west. I couldn't believe the trouble he had trying the get the roof sheets to line up.


    until next time............

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    Looking good again matey ,, for sure we will have an outside dunny to , dont know if its gonna be so close to the house ,, allthough following in Thai tradition I suppose it will have to be within earshot of where the clan all sit and hubbab around the bog door as you try unsucsessfully to part company quietly with your last massaman

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    DrAndy.....obviously a politician as you gave an answer that was non-committal and said nothing that could be held against you.
    Does politician automatically promote one to the dual title of sexpat?

    Joking aside, you mentioned the gates were 50k and an additional 25k for the remote, actuators, equipment etc. How much do you have in the wall itself? I think the wall makes the property really stand out nicely from the road. I do thank you for the posts and photos on the drainage system, I think the end result once the concrete was poured and finished is fabulous. This is clearly a house that will be standing and looking great still many many decades from now.

    Please ignore your hesitations on posting too much, that is what this forum is for, I don't think anyone here could get too many pictures as none are duplicates and each show a different angle and perspective of the build. If they say otherwise they are obviously wasting their time in a forum area they don't belong. Everyone following this forum has a keen interest in the build process and likely are seeking tips on our own projects.

    Last I would like to point out that in this construction forum there are 875 different threads. Ootai's Wife Builds a House is among the top 5 with nearly 12,000 views. Please don't think anyone finds it uninteresting, rather please do continue updating this one as this is my wife's favorite thread here thus far. As already mentioned by others here, we too can't wait to see how you will manage the landscaping of the property.

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    sure you didnt clout that with the minidigger?

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    nigelandjan.........its not so much that we need an outside dunny as we already have one over by the shed, its more about having a shower room for the MIL in a stlye that she is used to. I really don't think she would feel right in a 0.9m x 0.9m cubicle plus having hot water. This will be the 4th dunny and the only squat style one so I'm happy as I've got 3 choices.

    JoshuaInMukdahan....thanks for the feedback it is great to know that there are people out there looking at the thread. I suppose part of the reason is that I post a lot of pictures and few words, more people read comics than Shakespeare because everyone can understand (or put their own interpretation on) a picture. When I post I try to pick those pictures that I think will show the different stages, ideas etc. As you can imagine I only post about 10% of those that I take. The missus is always going on about me taking pictures but as I tell her in ten years time when we want to fix a pipe and we can't remember where we put them we can look at the picture to see how we built it. As for the landscaping I reckon all the Thai's will like what gets done as it will be the MIL who puts it all together and looks after it. On some of the forums here in Thailand the MIL's get a litte denigrated but I have the greatest respect for mine. Although we can't speak to each other she has a good sense of humour and she works like a trogan same as she has all her life probably. To see her enjoying the garden is great she deserves it. As for the wall I am told it cost us about 200K altogether gates and steel bits etc inclusive. Its the part that I think was done the best and as I said in an earlier post the guy who built it is a legend (at least to me).

    sunsetter.......... the full story is that I dug the hole and lowered the tank into it in order to determine (or check) the levels were right. The guys had put cement in the bottom of the hole the night before for me. Anyway it turns out that I needed another 10cm of concrete in the bottom to raise the tank to the right level. So while I was inside feeding my face they decided to lift the tank out (with the excavator) but they didn't tie the rope on very well (surprise surprise) and the rope let go and the bottom of the tank hit the concrete floor, you can see the result. I asked the missus what was happening when I heard the noise and all she would say was "stay away, don't go out there". She has told them that they are working for B4850 less than they thought. In my opinion what it has done is made them a little bit more careful around the existing pipes etc. I must be going soft as I told the missus that I thought she was being a little bit harsh charging them the full amount, in the end my last comment was my usual one "up to you darling".

    anyway here's some more pictures to add to the comic....

    the gate has finally been fitted in front of the shed B12,000 for this one. Still some mess to clean up.


    a closer view


    the hedge is still alive


    I finally got around to landscaping the ground down this side of the house. All the water from the drains flows out the pipe in the bottom right corner of the picture and then down my "river". Last year when Korat got flooded and we had lots of rain I was here in it watching where all the water was running so I could get the drains in the right places.


    looking from the other side


    the grass is going quite well and this concrete structure is being built in the middle of it


    for these to have somewhere to go. Apparently the spirits need to be able to see the first or second post and have an uninterrupted view of the whole house, which they can from there. Tomorrow their house gets built.


    The dogs like the grass.


    MIL is slowly moving plants from the current house up here. I had to built a bit of shade for a couple of the new plants as the sun was a bit fierce for them.


    the grass from the spirit house construction site ended up here. I asked the missus how I was going to get the mower in there. Once again my solution is MIL and a pair of scissors.


    the great hall is filling up. Sorry about the quality of the picture but it was early morning. Have to shift some of this stuff tomorrow to make room for 9 monks to sit in a straight line facing the front door.


    the old dining table got shunted out to the kitchen by the new one (bottom right)


    that's all folks....................at least for today

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    You realize this is the first photo we have seen with grass?! I am glad my wife is sleeping right now, her heart would sink of shear jealousy if she were to see that. In her eyes it is now a finished product, if there is green grass she can landscape and the entire property would become a living edible garden in one week's time. Lemongrass in every corner the very first day! LOL

    I think 200k for a wall that nice is a steal no question!

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    What a Thread, absolutely fantastic.. I bet theres been many jelouse observers like me. You have achieved a round of applause from me love it.

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    Ootai & Mrs. Ootai,
    Congratulations for a super thread and beautiful house project. Of course refining work will now begin but you are living there and can accomplish whatever you or the Missus dream up. I was/am confused though with the last post of "your river", I thought you were capturing run off in the collection tanks for reuse????

    Never mind the colors, they will change every so often anyway, just keep the master suite as neutral as possible. One thought on the bathroom doors, have your new found super guy tear them out (gently) and then frame up a proper door. Seems easy enough from 10,000 miles away. Possibly reuse those same doors in your outdoor dunny.

    Great thread and job, many greens for an entertaining read.

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    JoshuaInMukdahan............I'm sure that over time the rest of the front yard will get grassed as well but I don't think the missus wants to spend any more money right now. As for making the place an edible garden there is plenty of that down at the old house and our land here is now 15 rai so it would be a BIG garden. I also am very happy with the wall in total it is almost 80m and therefore averages out at B2500 per metre. When you consider that the gates (9m) cost B62,000 the actual wall works out at B2000 per metre.

    Minty4Thai.....thank you for your feedback it is appreciated

    ShilohJim......yes we will be catching the run-off from the roof for reuse but the rain that falls on the drive way will be running into the drains. Also we only have storage for 4000 litres so once the tanks are full then the excess will also end up in the drain and into "my river". I would have dug a "pond" at the end of the river but my missus does not like open water holes almost to the point of paranoia, as she worries about kids drowning in it. I reckon if she had ever learned to swim she wouldn't be so bad. As for the ensuite bathroom doors they are not an issue, it was just when I first seen them that I was gobsmacked, as they were not what I expected at all. But then again in Thailand you might eventually get used to expecting the unexpected. Thanks for the positive feedback.

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    what a fine job you and the wife has done now you can relax start to plant the fruit and veg.we had our first mango last year and we have the bigest papaya i have seen.will be ready shortly,what a big plot you have.few chickens nothing as nice as free range eggs.couple of goats to keep the weeds down and goat meat is not to bad either,how long its going to take to you both to plant every thing i can only guess we are into our second year and still planting,but the wife dont let me do too much work because i am always thirsty after and cider is 86bht a can so i am limited to 8,so good luck to you both and hope we can meet one day and have a few tins and share our exsperiences i live in korat so if your ever down this way let me know.

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    ootai I agree with all the others your wife did build a lovely home. You obviously picked a good one and with a hard working mil to boot. Doesn't get any better! Good stuff most enjoyable read. Thanks for sharing.
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    taffyapple.........I don't think we will be having either chickens or goats. They reckon the chickens shit everywhere and she says she already has one old goat and he stinks just like all the others. I just keep telling her that's she's lucky I'm a smelly old goat not a horny old goat and reckons once again I don't know what she wants. As for the cans, sorry tins, they would have to be coke as I don't touch that devil juice called alcohol. Many years ago I did but it got me into too much trouble. I do get to Korat sometimes i.e. 90 day report so maybe we will meet who knows?

    BKKBILL........yes I think I got a good one, definitely not an airhead more like a hothead but that keeps life interesting. The MIL is wonderful keeps telling me to give the missus a lift under the ear when she (the wife) is being a bit bossy. I think she (MIL) knows that I don't want to die just yet, I honestly couldn't sleep at night worrying what she (the missus) might do if I had given her a lift. All that being said I couldn't do without her.


    well today is the day we move in seems like there are some formalities to go through first.

    these guys turned up and started praying/chanting


    of course once they're through praying they'll need to be fed so here's the food prep area. I knew that open space next to the new dunny would be useful.


    also need some rice to go with the other stuff. That would have to be the biggest wok I have ever seen.


    once all the eating has been finished we're gonna need somewhere to wash the dishes


    hope they're hungry!


    dinner/breakfast is served


    so they bogged in


    and the old ladies sat in the corner with the lady monk (are they called a monk?) and chewed the fat/betel


    once he'd finished eating this guy thought that the place needed a bit of a clean as he went around splashing water everywhere. He must have agreed with the missus that I stunk as he threw lots over me, I can't speak Thai but I think this is what he meant "you need a shower mate!"


    anyway after that they all decided to leave. hard work this caper being a monk.


    and I thought they walked everywhere barefoot, must be 2554 "back to the future"


    the people who stayed behind probably thought "thank god they've gone now we can bog in.


    It was actually a very nice ceremony and while I don't pretend to understand if you believe in something enough then its real. Thai's believe it.

    until next time...

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