Glazing treatment

**Marmite the Dog** · 05-04-2010, 02:08 PM

Is there anything that you can treat glazing with (windows in Seppoish) to improve on the isulative properties?

I can feel the heat radiating from them into the house and know the AC is having to do a lot more work than I'd like it to. The windows are not in direct sunlight, as the roof overhang is good, so I don't need anything to reflect light; just heat.

**DrAndy** · 05-04-2010, 02:18 PM

you can have reflective film put on, same as they use in cars

or you can add a second window pane to get some insulation

**UpTooYou** · 05-04-2010, 02:19 PM

Tint ya windows!

http://www.aussietint.com.au/content/category/4/14/29/

**S Landreth** · 05-04-2010, 02:19 PM

Double paned windows have several key advantages over standard windows. Among these are better insulative properties, noise reduction, and ease of cleaning. Double paned windows can also protect items in the house from sun damage, and they easily slide open and lock closed; no cranking or lifting necessary.

link: What are the Advantages of Double Paned Windows?

I have never used them, so I don't know first hand. But it might help.

you would have to replace what you have now, which you might not want to do, because you're renting???

**louis key** · 05-04-2010, 02:22 PM

shutters

**Butterfly** · 05-04-2010, 02:32 PM

wood shutters

putting a film on your window is quite horrible, and the natural light won't be as nice

**jandajoy** · 05-04-2010, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

wood shutters

Agreed. We're looking at wooden louvered type shutters, like what the people in the Med. use.

Also additional security.

http://images.google.com.au/images?h...ed=0CEYQsAQwAw

**Loy Toy** · 05-04-2010, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

you can have reflective film put on, same as they use in cars

As above and as an alternative a reflective material on the outside of curtains does help a lot and is a cheap easy to apply method.

**dirtydog** · 05-04-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

you can have reflective film put on

Originally Posted by UpTooYou

Tint ya windows!

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

The windows are not in direct sunlight, as the roof overhang is good, so I don't need anything to reflect light; just heat.

......

**DrAndy** · 05-04-2010, 03:17 PM

fuk me, don't be so picky, reflective film also reflects heat but...

it would have to be double glazed to keep the heat out

**Norton** · 05-04-2010, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by DrAndy

it would have to be double glazed to keep the heat out

That'll do it. Helps with keeping sound out as well. I have wooden venetian blinds. Does help.

**Marmite the Dog** · 05-04-2010, 04:37 PM

The house is rented, so I'll not be replacing the windows or installing shutters (kinda makes it a bit dark as well).

I guess nasty film or a bigger AC bill it is...

**jandajoy** · 05-04-2010, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

I guess nasty film or a bigger AC bill it is...

In Aus one time I managed to find sheets of plastic that you could cut with a fret saw.

8x4 ft sheets if memory serves.

Anyway, we bought a couple, cut 'em to fit in the frames, and tacked em in.

Instant double glazing.

Made big difference.

On a rental you can always take 'en with you when you go.

**Norton** · 05-04-2010, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

or a bigger AC bill it is...

This prolly best in the end. Even if you spend the money to install some of the ideas posted, AC bill is gonna go up. Damn hot innit.

**jandajoy** · 05-04-2010, 05:30 PM

Any thing that doubles up the layers on the windows will help.

Even clingfilm will make a difference.

As LT said, line your curtains with heat deflecting material, aluminium foil, it'll make a difference.

**Marmite the Dog** · 05-04-2010, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Damn hot innit.

It is.

The leccy bill was 1500 baht last month and the SC was only on at night. I reckon it'll go up to about 2300 this month (luckily we're away for a week at the end of the month or it'd be even more).

We have sliding windows and doors here. Maybe I can find some thin, clear perspex and affix that to the aluminium frames to make makeshift dubben glazing?

Also, the backdoor has large enough gaps to allow grazing cattle to wander in and out of the house...

**Loy Toy** · 05-04-2010, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by jandajoy

As LT said, line your curtains with heat deflecting material, aluminium foil, it'll make a difference.

Thats exactly what I am talking about mate and most existing material curtains can be lined by those who possess a needle, thread and some spare time.

**jandajoy** · 05-04-2010, 05:44 PM

Marmers, I have to say that there's always a compromise twixt heat and light.

If you want the house to stay a bit cooler you need to keep things closed. Curtains, doors etc. Do it during the day and keep the heat out. Open everything up at night.

I've lived in some pretty warm places, a lot hotter than this, and you need to keep everything shuttered during the day.

Secondly, do you have a lot of concrete pathways or drive ways around your place?

Concrete soaks up the heat and brings it into the house. Just shading said pathways and drive ways can make a big difference.

Shade cloth and bamboo poles...... cheap as chips and you can take it away with you when you move

**Spin** · 05-04-2010, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Damn hot innit.

40 degrees ova heah in A. Muang Roi-et. Maybe more out baan nork?

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Maybe I can find some thin, clear perspex and affix that to the aluminium frames to make makeshift dubben glazing?

Big C have this is large rolls located where all the bathroom accessories are.

I like the idea of doing this more to keep cold air conditioned air in at night, rather than hot air out. If you know what I mean.

With the hot windows my lo-tech solution is to go round the house at 5pm and mist the windows with the hose, take the heat out of the glass and maybe the odd area of bedroom wall as well. It might wash the paint off the walls but it aint my house

**Thetyim** · 05-04-2010, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by jandajoy

Concrete soaks up the heat and brings it into the house. Just shading said pathways and drive ways can make a big difference.

Agree 100%

**DrAndy** · 05-04-2010, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

Damn hot innit.

don't tell Smeg or he will crow too much

Originally Posted by jandajoy

line your curtains

what are they???

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

The leccy bill was 1500 baht last month

£30 squid, not much at all

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

the backdoor has large enough gaps to allow grazing cattle to wander in and out of the house...

they would contribute quite a lot of heat, and methane

**nedwalk** · 05-04-2010, 06:02 PM

what i did in the ALICE, was to instal a sprinkler system on the roof of the house, on those cruel 40+ days, i would turn on the sprinkler it all ran back down into the gutters as well into the tank, really helped cool the house that and timber blinds to help difuse the heat, no a/c out there, though we did have an evaporitive system on the roof

**Marmite the Dog** · 05-04-2010, 06:14 PM

On the main side of the house I have a lean-to with a grass roof. We're going to build a kitchen on the back as well, but it is the front that gets the hottest, even though I am looking at a nice sized mango tree which provides a fair bit of shade.

Originally Posted by Spin

Big C have this is large rolls located where all the bathroom accessories are.

Rolls of perspex? Not sure you can roll perspex, but I will take a look - ta.

Originally Posted by jandajoy

I've lived in some pretty warm places, a lot hotter than this

Hotter than 40 DegC? Where's that? Mars?

Originally Posted by jandajoy

If you want the house to stay a bit cooler you need to keep things closed. Curtains, doors etc. Do it during the day and keep the heat out. Open everything up at night.

All the doors are shut as we have the AC on 24/7 at the moment, hence this thread so I can stop a lot of the cool air escaping through the terribly designed & constructed house.

**Marmite the Dog** · 05-04-2010, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by nedwalk

on those cruel 40+ days, i would turn on the sprinkler it all ran back down into the gutters as well into the tank,

I've just bough a sprinkler system today! But, it'll be used to water the garden.

**Bangyai** · 05-04-2010, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Spin

Big C have this is large rolls located where all the bathroom accessories are.

Not too cheap though if you have a lot of windows to do. The stuff that blocks out the heat can be around 300 baht a metre ( depending on pattern ) and is only about 50 cm wide although other widths are available. Looks like fake stained glass. I find just drawing the curtains helps a bit.

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